Rude Cosplayers Pissing Off Park Visitors in Japan
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Shuzenji Niji no Sato is a park in Shizuoka, Japan. And it's not happy with some ill-mannered cosplayers. If the situation doesn't improve, cosplay photography could be banned. P
On December 1, the park posted a notice on its blog regarding "worsening manners" among cosplayers. Lots of cosplayers are good people, but it seems some rotten apples have been causing complaints at the park.P
This is not a public park, and visitors must pay a 1,000 yen (around US$10) entrance fee. P
According to Shuzenji Niji no Sato, there have been complaints and incidents regarding cosplayers, such as climbing trees, using the park's night time lights for their own photo shoots, blocking walkways for long periods of time during photo shoots, continuing photo shoots even after the park was closed as well as changing clothes after the park had closed, trespassing, and moving park items, such as benches and tables, around for shoots.123P
The park is an ideal and popular spot for cosplay photography. It has various areas with different themed gardens and buildings, such as the British Village, the Japanese Garden, the Canadian Village, and the Fairy Garden. There are also old steam and diesel trains.P
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I don't see the problem. Why can't they kick out the misbehaving cosplayers and prevent ruining the fun for everyone else?
Just pack all the cosplayers up and ship them to their own special island. It worked in 1948 and it'll work now.
[quote]such as climbing trees, using the park's night time lights for their own photo shoots, blocking walkways for long periods of time during photo shoots, continuing photo shoots even after the park was closed as well as changing clothes after the park had closed, trespassing, and moving park items, such as benches and tables, around for shoots.[/quote]
I want their "rude visitors" instead of ours.
Ours set trashcans on fire and occasionally shank somebody. These guys sound alright in comparison.
[QUOTE=draugur;43056862]Just pack all the cosplayers up and ship them to their own special island. It worked in 1948 and it'll work now.[/QUOTE]
I thought that's what Japan was meant for...
[quote] such as the British Village, the Japanese Garden, the Canadian Village, and the Fairy Garden.[/quote]
I'm more interested in what exactly this Canadian village looks like, and how you can tell it apart from the [sp]fairy garden[/sp] British village
[QUOTE=CapLaPorte;43057066]I'm more interested in what exactly this Canadian village looks like, and how you can tell it apart from the [sp]fairy garden[/sp] British village[/QUOTE]
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was a bunch of igloos.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43057016]I want their "rude visitors" instead of ours.
Ours set trashcans on fire and occasionally shank somebody. These guys sound alright in comparison.[/QUOTE]
except calling somebody stupid (or baka, if you will) in Japan is enough to provoke a fight.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43057167]except calling somebody stupid (or baka, if you will) in Japan is enough to provoke a fight.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WviwYLZubSw[/media]
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43057167]except calling somebody stupid (or baka, if you will) in Japan is enough to provoke a fight.[/QUOTE]
calling someone stupid in most british town centres can start gang brawls so that's not exactly exclusive to japan
Looks nothing like a british village of today, must have based it from the 1960's or something.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43057167]except calling somebody stupid (or baka, if you will) in Japan is enough to provoke a fight.[/QUOTE]
woah people get offended when you call them an idiot?
I remember at the Vancouver Fan Expo security was throwing people out for being lippy and trying to do photoshoots on a closed floor.
This comes to mind...
[url]http://bgzstudios.com/blog/photography/quality-overkill-cosplay-photography/[/url]
[QUOTE=.Lain;43059121]woah people get offended when you call them an idiot?[/QUOTE]
I think the point he is making is that the Weeabos do not have an understanding of the culture they are imitating and often come across as either mocking it or completely misusing the language in a manner that is confusing or offensive to locals.
Many anime fangirls I know call each other 'baka' as almost a pet name, where in Japan it would be sort of upsetting for two people to be using such a strong word lackadaisically. Like many 'foreign' (to english speakers) swear words, baka when translated to English loses a lot of it's "oomph".
If I recall correctly, it means something more along the lines of 'degenerate' than simply 'fool' or 'idiot'. It also was a common term used by allied soldiers when referring to Japanese soldiers in World War II, so used by a white person, it may be interpreted to be being used as a racial slur.
It's a pretty heavy handed word that is overused and abused by fans of anime and cosplayers.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43057167]except calling somebody stupid (or baka, if you will) in Japan is enough to provoke a fight.[/QUOTE]
Yeah last time I called some guy an idiot at a Walmart here in the US, it started a 6 hour gun fight and now I'm not allowed to go into any walmarts in Florida
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;43063722]I think the point he is making is that the Weeabos do not have an understanding of the culture they are imitating and often come across as either mocking it or completely misusing the language in a manner that is confusing or offensive to locals.
Many anime fangirls I know call each other 'baka' as almost a pet name, where in Japan it would be sort of upsetting for two people to be using such a strong word lackadaisically. Like many 'foreign' (to english speakers) swear words, baka when translated to English loses a lot of it's "oomph".
If I recall correctly, it means something more along the lines of 'degenerate' than simply 'fool' or 'idiot'. It also was a common term used by allied soldiers when referring to Japanese soldiers in World War II, so used by a white person, it comes across as a racial slur.
It's a pretty heavy handed word that is overused and abused by fans of anime and cosplayers.[/QUOTE]
Except 'baka', 'boke, and 'aho' are heard about as casually as 'hello' on most variety comedy shows in Japan anyway. I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who considered it a racial slur, that's a gross overestimation.
[QUOTE=Megafan;43064052]Except 'baka', 'boke, and 'aho' are heard about as casually as 'hello' on most variety comedy shows in Japan anyway. I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who considered it a racial slur, that's a gross overestimation.[/QUOTE]
If you're talking to an 80 year old that had to put up with US occupation, then it might be especially rude to call them that, but they'd be pissed off anyway because theres not many cultures where the elderly aren't supposed to be treated with respect. Any old doods gonna get pissed if you call him an idiot, no matter what country or culture they conform too.
[QUOTE=Megafan;43064052]Except 'baka', 'boke, and 'aho' are heard about as casually as 'hello' on most variety comedy shows in Japan anyway. I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who considered it a racial slur, that's a gross overestimation.[/QUOTE]
Don't think of it as "idiot".
Think of it as "dumbass" or "fuckwad".
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43064086]If you're talking to an 80 year old that had to put up with US occupation, then it might be especially rude to call them that, but they'd be pissed off anyway because theres not many cultures where the elderly aren't supposed to be treated with respect. Any old doods gonna get pissed if you call him an idiot, no matter what country or culture they conform too.[/QUOTE]
I somehow doubt there are too many Westerners calling 80 year-old men 'baka' over in Japan. The original article (the Japanese one) isn't even referring to foreigners, just cosplayers in general.
baka isn't even that bad of a word. It's the equivalent of stupid.
There are worse words to be said.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;43064495]baka isn't even that bad of a word. It's the equivalent of stupid.
There are worse words to be said.[/QUOTE]
Remember that the Japanese are very big on manners.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;43064519]Remember that the Japanese are very big on manners.[/QUOTE]
nice generalization of literally all japanese there.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;43064495]baka isn't even that bad of a word. It's the equivalent of stupid.
There are worse words to be said.[/QUOTE]
Well, perhaps I was misinformed. I was told that by a teacher who taught the language at my high school. She said it would be highly disrespectful as a white person to use it, due to the historical implications as well as its difference from stupid, as defined in the english language.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;43064535]Well, perhaps I was misinformed. I was told that by a teacher who taught the language at my high school. She said it would be highly disrespectful as a white person to use it, due to the historical implications as well as its difference from stupid, as defined in the english language.[/QUOTE]
how the hell is it a racial term?
Nip is a racial term for Japanese. So is gook or yellow.
Baka isn't.
[QUOTE=Megafan;43064143]I somehow doubt there are too many Westerners calling 80 year-old men 'baka' over in Japan. The original article (the Japanese one) isn't even referring to foreigners, just cosplayers in general.[/QUOTE]
erm, I was more just talking about people calling the elderly "idiots" in general, not specifically cosplayers or foreigners.
What's with all the people thinking associating with another culture suddenly equates to racism?
[editline]3rd December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43064546]erm, I was more just talking about people calling the elderly "idiots" in general, not specifically cosplayers or foreigners.[/QUOTE]
Ok you're barking up an entirely different tree there.
Japanese fiercely respect the elderly so of course saying baka in front of one would be offensive.
If used in an everyday social context it means literally nothing.
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Ok you're barking up an entirely different tree there.
Japanese fiercely respect the elderly so of course saying baka in front of one would be offensive.
If used in an everyday social context it means literally nothing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43064086]If you're talking to an 80 year old that had to put up with US occupation, then it might be especially rude to call them that, but they'd be pissed off anyway because theres not many cultures where the elderly aren't supposed to be treated with respect. Any old doods gonna get pissed if you call him an idiot, no matter what country or culture they conform too.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know that was the point of my post.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43064571]Yeah I know that was the point of my post.[/QUOTE]
I see then.
[QUOTE]It has various areas with different themed gardens and buildings, such as the British Village, the Japanese Garden, the Canadian Village, and the Fairy Garden. There are also old steam and diesel trains.[/QUOTE]
With that description I kinda really want to go there now
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