[quote]But Thompson noted that the report also targeted as "potential terrorists" Americans who:
* Oppose abortion
* Oppose same-sex marriage
* Oppose restrictions on firearms
* Oppose lax immigration laws
* Oppose the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs
* Oppose continuation of free trade agreements
* Are suspect of foreign regimes
* Fear Communist regimes
* Oppose a "one world" government
* Bemoan the decline of U.S. stature in the world
* Are upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India, and more[/quote]
Have an opinion and you're a terrorist.
lolll you people actually believe this
The army can arrest people?! Oh no!
you took something from worldnetdaily?
Worldnetdaily is an extremely right-wing biased source
[QUOTE=markg06;16583918]Have an opinion and you're a terrorist.[/QUOTE]
Say hello to the new world order.
worldnetdaily literally makes shit up all the time
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16583960]lolll you people actually believe this[/QUOTE]
"You People", I sure hope you don't mean me, as I posted this to show how fucking stupid these cunts are, and make clear I don't believe this.
[quote]Okay, I did my own research on this, and It turns out that the 31E Internment/Resettlement Specialist was formally known as 95C Corrections Specialist and I've turned up manuals on this from 1999 and 2003, along with reports from 2004 citing these manuals. All They are are basically Prison Guards with a fancy yet menacing name which operate as a part of the Military Police.
STP 19-95C14-SM-TG, Soldier’s Manual and Trainer’s Guide for MOS 95C Internment/Resettlement Specialist, Skill Levels 1/2/3/4, 26 March 1999
STP 19-95C1-SM MOS 95C, Corrections Specialist, Skill Level 1, Soldier's Manual, 30 September 2003
Both Cited by the 2004 Abu Ghraib Investigation Report found here.
[url]http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/US_Arm...soners_in_Iraq[/url][/quote]
[b]Prison Guards[/b] with a fancy yet menacing name [b]which operate as a part of the Military Police.[/b]
STUNNING
[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16584006][b]Prison Guards[/b] with a fancy yet menacing name [b]which operate as a part of the Military Police.[/b]
STUNNING[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but all the FEMA EXTERMINATION CAMPS, NEW WORLD ORDER, OBAMA A FASCIST AND BORN IN KENYA tinfoil hat wearin' idiots are going crazy over this.
People are stupid, this is simply a job for military prisons or sub-branch of the military police.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584030]Yeah, but all the FEMA EXTERMINATION CAMPS, NEW WORLD ORDER, OBAMA A FASCIST AND BORN IN KENYA tinfoil hat wearin' idiots are going crazy over this.[/QUOTE]
they have a right to, believe it or not they do keep the government in check
(hardly but some do)
[QUOTE=Ishmael12;16583973]Worldnetdaily is an extremely right-wing biased source[/QUOTE]
I was sent this link over IRC, This thread is to make a joke of them,
This sounds like thought control. Right out of 1984, but it does not sound real.
They need to hire a better name guy.
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[QUOTE=Sh33p;16583964]The army can arrest people?! Oh no![/QUOTE]
Are you mentally ill or just stupid?
[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584081]I was sent this link over IRC, This thread is to make a joke of them,[/QUOTE]
Not it wasn't the way you sounded in the OP it made it sound like you were outraged at this(I mean you did research this), my guess is you are changing your opinion after hearing others
[QUOTE=MR-X;16584065]People are stupid, this is simply a job for military prisons or sub-branch of the military police.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but since the army recently posted this job listing they think it's Obama, and they see "INTERNMENT / RESETTLEMENT" they think about that FEMA DEATH CAMP bullshit and now they are sending links to everyone and going batshit crazy.
[QUOTE=MR-X;16584065]People are stupid, this is simply a job for military prisons or sub-branch of the military police.[/QUOTE]
There are no "military prisons" that the National Guard runs on U.S. soil, not any legal ones anyway.
It is illegal for any branch of the military to operate like that. We have a civilian police and justice system for a reason. The military is constitutionally forbidden from taking part. Their job is exclusively overseas and/or on established military bases, which do not house prison complexes. Most people tried by the military serve time in a small local military facility or in a normal, civilian-operated prison. The National Guard doesn't really have any need for prison guards, they aren't supposed to be involved in prisons at all.
God damnit, I thought Hal Turner getting arrested would finally stop this FEMA death camp conspiracy theory.
[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16584108]Not it wasn't the way you sounded in the OP it made it sound like you were outraged at this(I mean you did research this), my guess is you are changing your opinion after hearing others[/QUOTE]
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Okay, I did my own research on this, and It turns out that the 31E Internment/Resettlement Specialist was formally known as 95C Corrections Specialist and I've turned up manuals on this from 1999 and 2003, along with reports from 2004 citing these manuals. All They are are basically Prison Guards with a fancy yet menacing name which operate as a part of the Military Police.[/I]
[I]I've turned up manuals on this from 1999 and 2003, along with reports from 2004 citing these manuals. All They are are basically Prison Guards with a fancy yet menacing name which operate as a part of the Military Police.
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[I]" All They are are basically Prison Guards with a fancy yet menacing name which operate as a part of the Military Police."
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[I]All They are are basically Prison Guards[/I]
Because Debunking it makes me outraged, and the WND was spinning this as a Obama thing, which is why I pulled up the Bush era and decade old manuals.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584147][I]
Okay, I did my own research on this, and It turns out that the 31E Internment/Resettlement Specialist was formally known as 95C Corrections Specialist and I've turned up manuals on this from 1999 and 2003, along with reports from 2004 citing these manuals. All They are are basically Prison Guards with a fancy yet menacing name which operate as a part of the Military Police.[/I]
[I]I've turned up manuals on this from 1999 and 2003, along with reports from 2004 citing these manuals. All They are are basically Prison Guards with a fancy yet menacing name which operate as a part of the Military Police.
[/I]
[I]" All They are are basically Prison Guards with a fancy yet menacing name which operate as a part of the Military Police."
[/I]
[I]All They are are basically Prison Guards[/I]
Because Debunking it makes me outraged.[/QUOTE]
Apparently your research is shit because there is no established "The Military Police" and there are no prisons maintained by the National Guard. The only military police that operate in this country are on military bases, and they only enforce regulations and laws for military personnel. When someone is tried by the military on U.S. soil they are usually put in local lockup or a civilian-owned prison.
I don't see why the fuck the National Guard needs prison guards to begin with. That is beyond their constitutional duties.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16584121]There are no "military prisons" that the National Guard runs on U.S. soil, not any legal ones anyway.
It is illegal for any branch of the military to operate like that. We have a civilian police and justice system for a reason. The military is constitutionally forbidden from taking part. Their job is exclusively overseas and/or on established military bases, which do not house prison complexes. Most people tried by the military serve time in a small local military facility or in a normal, civilian-operated prison. The National Guard doesn't really have any need for prison guards, they aren't supposed to be involved in prisons at all.[/QUOTE]
Umm, no Military Prisons? Did Gitmo just disappear from thin air? What about Abu Ghraib?
[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584196]Umm, no Military Prisons? Did Gitmo just disappear from thin air? What about Abu Ghraib?[/QUOTE]
Those are overseas. The National Guard is exclusively a homefront organization that helps with emergencies and acts as the constitutionally required militia.
National Guard personnel don't go to Gitmo.
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The fuck is wrong with you? It's the NATIONAL GUARD, not the army. They don't leave the country.
[editline]02:32PM[/editline]
FYI your research is shit.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16584181]Apparently your research is shit because there is no established "The Military Police" and there are no prisons maintained by the National Guard. The only military police that operate in this country are on military bases, and they only enforce regulations and laws for military personnel. When someone is tried by the military on U.S. soil they are usually put in local lockup or a civilian-owned prison.
I don't see why the fuck the National Guard needs prison guards to begin with. That is beyond their constitutional duties.[/QUOTE]
The National Guard falls under the Army, which is why the call it the fucking [B][I]Army[/B] National Guard[/I], also "No established Military police"?! Are you trying to be fucking Ignorant, since when hasn't there been a god damn Military Police. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Police_Corps_(United_States_Army[/url])
[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584240]Hey Cunt, The National Guard falls under the Army, which is why the call it the fucking [B][I]Army[/B] National Guard[/I], also "No established Military police"?! Are you trying to be fucking Ignorant, since when hasn't there been a god damn Military Police. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Police_Corps_(United_States_Army[/url])[/QUOTE]
The MPC operates on military bases exclusively in terms of U.S. soil and they do not maintain any prisons on the homefront. What you cited was an organization intended for use OVERSEAS. It is ILLEGAL for military police to enforce laws as you suggest in this country.
And the National Guard is the homefront branch of the military. They operate independently, like the Marines operate independently from the Navy even though the two are heavily reliant on one another.
If you are overseas, you are in the Army. The US army handles everything you are responsible for. The National Guard handles U.S. internal affairs ONLY and they have no business manning prisons. The only sort of established prisons the military uses and runs on our soil are very small "confinement facilities" that are manned by on-base personnel, not dedicated prison guards.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16584216]Those are overseas. The National Guard is exclusively a homefront organization that helps with emergencies and acts as the constitutionally required militia.
hey don't leave the country.[/QUOTE]
You are a Idiot, the U.S. National Guard has been actively deployed to overseas since 1991
[quote]During some periods of the 2003 war in Iraq, the National guard represented 41% of the personnel deployed [5]. The majority are supposed to serve for six months or a year. However, some specialists in the reserve forces have been required to serve for up to two years.[quote]
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/30/AR2005063001872.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Lankist;16584319]The MPC operates on military bases exclusively in terms of U.S. soil and they do not maintain any prisons on the homefront. What you cited was an organization intended for use OVERSEAS. It is ILLEGAL for military police to enforce laws as you suggest in this country.
And the National Guard is the homefront branch of the military. They operate independently, like the Marines operate independently from the Navy even though the two are heavily reliant on one another.
If you are overseas, you are in the Army. The US army handles everything you are responsible for. The National Guard handles U.S. internal affairs ONLY and they have no business manning prisons.[/QUOTE]
The National Guard isn't Independent, they are operate as a part of the Army, Like how the Marines Operate as a Part of the Navy.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/30/AR2005063001872.html[/url]
[quote][B]Army to Use Fewer National Guard Troops in Iraq[/B]
By Bradley Graham and Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, July 1, 2005
The Army plans to draw far fewer reservists for Iraq duty in a new rotation of forces that has just begun, counting instead on active-duty soldiers to fill most of the deployment requirement, the Army's top officer reported yesterday.
Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the Army's chief of staff, said in Senate testimony that the number of Army National Guard brigades in Iraq will drop from seven this year to as few as two next year. In relation to the total number of troops, that would cut the share of Guard units from 41 percent to 11 percent.
"The Guard brigades will be down," the general told the Senate Armed Services Committee.
The move comes not a moment too soon for the nation's community of formerly part-time soldiers, which has been badly strained by lengthy deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. With many of the better-equipped reserve units nearing a two-year maximum call-up limit declared by the Bush administration, Army leaders had warned earlier this year that they were running out of upper-tier brigades to send to Iraq.
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Army officials said yesterday that the greater reliance on active-duty units has become possible as a result of the creation of new regular brigades, part of a major restructuring effort begun a year and a half ago aimed at increasing the number of active-duty brigades from 33 to at least 43, and making each more easily deployable.
The Army has also sought to shift into the active force more of the jobs that traditionally had been concentrated in reserve units but are in particularly great demand in Iraq, such as those of military police, civil affairs specialists and truck drivers.
The United States has about 17 combat brigades in Iraq, totaling about 135,000 troops. Senior U.S. commanders there recently affirmed the possibility of a reduction in overall troop numbers after the Iraqi elections scheduled for December, depending on the strength of the insurgency and the development of homegrown Iraqi forces.
Nonetheless, an additional 15 Army brigades and two Marine regiments are slated to go to Iraq as replacement forces. The rotation plan, which is spread out over the rest of this year and into the first part of next year, provides for some units to be held back if a decision is made to reduce the total U.S. force level, officials said.
The bulk of the new forces is scheduled to start surging into Iraq this October, when Iraq plans to hold a referendum on a new constitution. The troop flow is intended to continue through the December elections. This changeover will allow U.S. commanders to quickly boost the total number of U.S. forces in Iraq by simply delaying the exit of some units -- a move that was employed late last year during the previous rotation when the number of brigades in Iraq grew to 20 to cover the January elections.
Sen. Carl M. Levin (Mich.), the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, noted in opening remarks yesterday that governors are concerned about whether they will have National Guard units that can respond to natural disasters. He worried that the forces are being worn thin, possibly endangering future operations.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584333]You are a Idiot, the U.S. National Guard has been actively deployed to overseas since 1991[/QUOTE]
They are transferred to the Army or their respective branch of the military when that happens.
Do you fucking think the National Guard is calling the shots overseas or something?
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This isn't rocket science. "National Guard Troops" are people who are drafted back into active service from the Guard. The National Guard is NOT an active service, it acts as home defense and reserve. The organization itself operates exclusively on-soil here in the US. When you are redeployed, the National Guard isn't the branch that tells you what to do, it's the Marines, or the Army, or the Airforce, or the Navy. The Guard hands soldiers over to active branches of the military.
This, however, is a job within the Guard itself, this prison business. The Guard doesn't maintain any prisons.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16584372]They are transferred to the Army or their respective branch of the military when that happens.
Do you fucking think the National Guard is calling the shots overseas or something?[/QUOTE]
[B]ARMY[/B] NATIONAL GUARD, WHAT PART OF [B]ARMY[/B] NATIONAL GUARD DO YOU NOT GET.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States[/url]
[highlight]The National Guard of the United States is a joint reserve component of the United States Army and the United States Air Force and maintains two subcomponents: the Army National Guard of the United States [1] for the Army and the Air Force's Air National Guard of the United States
In 2005, National Guard members and reservists were said to comprise a larger percentage of frontline fighting forces than in any war in U.S. history (about 43 percent in Iraq and 55 percent in Afghanistan).[17] There were then 183,366 National Guard members and reservists on active duty nationwide who leave behind about 300,000 dependents, according to U.S. Defense Department statistics.
Due Strains placed on active duty units following the September 11th attacks, the possible mobilization time was increased to 18 months (with no more than one year overseas). Additional strains placed on military units as a result of the invasion of Iraq further increased the amount of time a Guardsman could be mobilized to 24 months. Current Department of Defense policy is that no Guardsman will be involuntarily activated for more than 24 months (cumulative) in one six year enlistment period (this policy is due to change 1 August 2007, the new policy states that soldiers will be given 24 months between deployments of no more than 24 months (individual states have differing policies).
18 months (with no more than one year overseas)
one year overseas[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584418][B]ARMY[/B] NATIONAL GUARD, WHAT PART OF [B]ARMY[/B] NATIONAL GUARD DO YOU NOT GET.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States[/url]
[highlight]The National Guard of the United States is a joint reserve component of the United States Army and the United States Air Force and maintains two subcomponents: the Army National Guard of the United States [1] for the Army and the Air Force's Air National Guard of the United States[/highlight][/QUOTE]
Do you have a learning disability? I've explained this a dozen times.
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FYI members of the Guard are not exclusively inactive Army personnel. It is the reserve and defense component for our entire military.
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