WWII era fighter crashes during airshow... again - Polidicks

Source: [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/09/17/west.virginia.plane.crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t2[/url] [QUOTE][B](CNN)[/B] -- An aircraft crashed Saturday afternoon during a demonstration at a West Virginia air show, killing the pilot, the West Virginia Air National Guard said. No one on the ground was injured. It was not immediately clear what caused the accident at the 2011 Thunder Over the Blue Ridge Open House & Air Show in Martinsburg, West Virginia. The pilot was flying a T-28 aircraft. CNN iReporter Jennifer Clark took pictures of the 2:30 p.m. ET crash, showing flames and black plumes of smoke rising from the ground. "We saw a flash of light ... and heard the explosion sound," she told CNN's Don Lemon. "It was scary." "You just heard the whole crowd gasp simultaneously and everybody just kind of went silent and was just watching what was going on," she said. The West Virginia crash came one day after another deadly air crash. A pilot lost control of his vintage plane during an air race in Reno, Nevada, on Friday, plummeting toward thousands of spectators before narrowly missing a grandstand and slamming into box seats. Nine people, including the pilot, died in that accident, according to local police. [/QUOTE] Tl;dr - another WWII era fighter crashes during airshow, kills pilot, no one else injured. Picture from the crash: [img]http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01542/APTOPIX_Crash_WV_A_1542790x.jpg[/img] [B]This is a different crash from the one yesterday.[/B]

Its the 2012 of WW2 planes!

It killed the pilot and eight other people edit: oh wait I misread it also, this is a T-28 [IMG]http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/T-28-4-spread-.jpg[/IMG] in case anyone was curious

[QUOTE=wewt!;32353931]It killed the pilot and eight other people[/QUOTE] Only the pilot*

[QUOTE=wewt!;32353931]It killed the pilot and eight other people [/QUOTE] No, that was yesterdays crash.

Something tells me airshows aren't the best places to be right now.

there's a reason we generally don't use these things anymore

[QUOTE=TheHydra;32353970]there's a reason we generally don't use these things anymore[/QUOTE] Planes don't just stop working if they're properly maintained.

[QUOTE=wewt!;32354005]Planes don't just stop working if they're properly maintained.[/QUOTE] Everything wears down over time, no matter how well you maintain it. [B]MANY DUMBS LATER:[/B] Alright, my mistake. But having to much pride of accept that I am wrong, I ask you this, sir; do atoms not decay? Within eight hundred billion billion years, will the plane not have worn down?

Hitler's risen from the grave as a ghost and is killing all who bring up world war 2. oh no, that means me next. :tinfoil:

[QUOTE=mac338;32354015]Everything wears down over time, no matter how well you maintain it. This is why used cars drop in value by an insane amount every year, regardless of how well-maintained it is and how far it's driven.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand what I meant by maintain. I didn't mean "clean and oil it every once in a while", I also meant replacing parts that are reaching the end of their lifetime. Just because a design is from WWII doesn't mean that the actual machinery is old.

My dad said he was 50 yards away from the plane when this happened. I called him him like a minute after the plane crashed, he was very shaken up. He told me the plane crashed about 30 yards short of some sort of fuel depot; apparently my dad would have been dead if it had hit it.

I immediately went and brought up "t-28" on Wikipedia and it gave me the Soviet tank. :v:

Holy shit. I hope they don't stop doing airshows. After these crashes.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;32353970]there's a reason we generally don't use these things anymore[/QUOTE] Yeah, jet engines.

Boy it sure is a rough year for WW2 era planes. Inbefore everyone freaks out and they are banned from any future airshows.

[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;32356014]Boy it sure is a rough year for WW2 era planes. Inbefore everyone freaks out and they are banned from any future airshows.[/QUOTE] Hopefully the people that make these decisions have enough common sense to know that they are pretty much safe.

[QUOTE=mac338;32354015]Everything wears down over time, no matter how well you maintain it.[/QUOTE] If your aircraft wears down your not properly maintaining it, with proper maintenance and aircraft will stay air worthy for a century or 2, as long as you replace parts while necessary, and don't over stress the airframe, even if you do though with proper inspection/maintenance you will find and repair issues before they become problems. As long as there are parts for that aircraft, you can keep it in the air, airplanes are not like cars in any way, EG. the engine is rebuilt after I forget how many hours of flight time, if you do not have this done you cant legally fly it.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;32353970]there's a reason we generally don't use these things anymore[/QUOTE] Physics haven't changed since the 1940s fyi.

Shit, again?

[QUOTE=viperfan7;32356582]If your aircraft wears down your not properly maintaining it, with proper maintenance and aircraft will stay air worthy for a century or 2, as long as you replace parts while necessary, and don't over stress the airframe, even if you do though with proper inspection/maintenance you will find and repair issues before they become problems. As long as there are parts for that aircraft, you can keep it in the air, airplanes are not like cars in any way, EG. the engine is rebuilt after I forget how many hours of flight time, if you do not have this done you cant legally fly it.[/QUOTE]Good man!

[QUOTE=Andokool12;32356612]Physics haven't changed since the 1940s fyi[URL="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467131/iiabttfr.jpg"].[/URL][/QUOTE] They have, there is a problem with the earth's gravitational pull. Everything in our time is [I]'heavy.'[/I]

[QUOTE=mac338;32354015]Everything wears down over time, no matter how well you maintain it. [B]MANY DUMBS LATER:[/B] Alright, my mistake. But having to much pride of accept that I am wrong, I ask you this, sir; do atoms not decay? Within eight hundred billion billion years, will the plane not have worn down?[/QUOTE] Wow your post managed to become dumber after you made your edit.

[QUOTE=mac338;32354015]Everything wears down over time, no matter how well you maintain it. [B]MANY DUMBS LATER:[/B] Alright, my mistake. But having to much pride of accept that I am wrong, I ask you this, sir; do atoms not decay? Within eight hundred billion billion years, will the plane not have worn down?[/QUOTE] Oh, whats that. This part has broken. I'll just order a new one that is completely new and not broken, worn down, damaged, mauled, burned, stabbed, scrapped, dented, bended, heated, slightly melted, rusted, faulty, or in any other way defective which I know will work because you would have to be stupid to use the same engine for fifty years.

[QUOTE=JDER14;32359478]Oh, whats that. This part has broken. I'll just order a new one that is completely new and not broken, worn down, damaged, mauled, burned, stabbed, scrapped, dented, bended, heated, slightly melted, rusted, faulty, or in any other way defective which I know will work because you would have to be stupid to use the same engine for fifty years.[/QUOTE] That's assuming the new, correct part is still being produced 50 years later.

There's got to be an explanation. Like, the two pilots were arch rivals in WWII, constantly competing to outdo the other. When the one died, the other also killed himself in his plane, so that they can compete and duel in the afterlife with their aircraft.

[QUOTE=mac338;32354015]Everything wears down over time, no matter how well you maintain it. [B]MANY DUMBS LATER:[/B] Alright, my mistake. But having to much pride of accept that I am wrong, I ask you this, sir; do atoms not decay? [b]Within eight hundred billion billion years[/b], will the plane not have worn down?[/QUOTE] how the fuck does that compare to like 70 years

The T-28 is not a WW2 era fighter plane. It's a training plane, as denoted by the giant T in front of the number. It first flew in 1949, and didn't become common use until the early 1950s.

[QUOTE=Ridge;32361188]The T-28 is not a WW2 era fighter plane. It's a training plane, as denoted by the giant T in front of the number. It first flew in 1949, and didn't become common use until the early 1950s.[/QUOTE] I was going to say that :saddowns:

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;32359644]That's assuming the new, correct part is still being produced 50 years later.[/QUOTE] I assume if needed (and someone is willing to pay) parts for old aircrafts can be made to order by people who have the designs sitting around.