Sheet music questions, if anyone can help - General

[img]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5338/captureeql.jpg[/img] A question about the highlighted notes, for the first highlighted one, would I just play it quickly after the other? Kind of like a grace note except lasting a quarter in time? And for the second one, the key signature is in Eb Major, so would this A be flatted twice? Once because of the key signature and the second because of the accidental? And lastly, [img]http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8030/capturenm.jpg[/img] There is one stem going down and another that is connected with the further notes. Does this mean that I play one note as Cb and one as C or both Cb?

[QUOTE=Nasake;23813965][IMG]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5338/captureeql.jpg[/IMG] A question about the highlighted notes, for the first highlighted one, would I just play it quickly after the other? Kind of like a grace note except lasting a quarter in time? And for the second one, the key signature is in Eb Major, so would this A be flatted twice? Once because of the key signature and the second because of the accidental?[/QUOTE] For the first one, they would both be played simultaneously; they are different parts of the divisi. The second highlighted note would only be an A-flat (I'm assuming this is bass clef?), if they wanted it to be a G they would have put a double flat symbol there. A lot of the time they will do that to remind the player that that note is flat. Also notice how it is in parenthesis, which is basically to remind the player. [QUOTE=Nasake;23813965]And lastly, [IMG]http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8030/capturenm.jpg[/IMG] There is one stem going down and another that is connected with the further notes. Does this mean that I play one note as Cb and one as C or both Cb?[/QUOTE] Both would be played as Cb (B) unless there is supposed to be some hardcore dissonance. They would specify that one is to be played different if that was the case.

Wow thank you for clarifying that! [QUOTE=Apple Piepod;23817052] Both would be played as Cb (B) unless there is supposed to be some hardcore dissonance. They would specify that one is to be played different if that was the case.[/QUOTE] So basically, it's just one note being played then? Is there a reason for the stem to be sticking up [i]and[/i] down like that?

Chances are whomever wrote it just has a sort of unique style. I can't find any other reasonable explanation for having that.

[QUOTE=Apple Piepod;23817052]Both would be played as Cb (B) unless there is supposed to be some hardcore dissonance. They would specify that one is to be played different if that was the case.[/QUOTE] Key is Eb Major. That's a Cb followed by a Bb. [QUOTE=Nasake;23818296]Is there a reason for the stem to be sticking up [i]and[/i] down like that?[/QUOTE] It's representing a divisi, as has already been said. You can look at it as two melodies: one with the stems up, and one with the stems down. It just so happens that both melodies start on a unison. I could go into a more in-depth explanation, but that's the gist of it.

[QUOTE=AlmondMirage;23821645]Key is Eb Major. That's a Cb followed by a Bb.[/QUOTE] So who's correct? Is the key signature to be ignored when an accidental is presented, or does it get taken into account and create two flats (one from signature and one from accidental)? [QUOTE=AlmondMirage;23821645] It's representing a divisi, as has already been said. You can look at it as two melodies: one with the stems up, and one with the stems down. It just so happens that both melodies start on a unison. I could go into a more in-depth explanation, but that's the gist of it.[/QUOTE] Thanks that's clear enough for me, I appreciate the help.

[QUOTE=Nasake;23824664]So who's correct?[/quote] I am. Apple Piepod did not take the key signature into account when writing his post. [quote]Is the key signature to be ignored when an accidental is presented, or does it get taken into account and create two flats (one from signature and one from accidental)?[/quote] Eb has three flats: Bb, Eb, and Ab. The note, Cb, is introduced as an accidental (outside of the key). The notes Bb, Eb, and Ab exist throughout, unless otherwise indicated by an accidental. Accidentals affect any note on the same line or space until the end of the measure or until changed by another accidental. You might also see something like (♭) in front of a note. That's called a courtesy accidental - its purpose is to remind the player of the notes in the key, whenever they are in question. It's likely in your example that the place where the Ab has a courtesy accidental, there is a different accidental on the A in the measure before it (or a few measures before).

Thanks for the information. Still, I wonder why they didn't just write a note on the B line instead of flatting an A and going through the key signature.

[QUOTE=AlmondMirage;23834387]I am. Apple Piepod did not take the key signature into account when writing his post. [/QUOTE] I believe he is talking about the Cb (the two in the divisi) and not the Bb after it... I was explaining that both notes are the same and not a C/Cb chord, which would be extremely dissonant. I wasn't talking about the relation of the Cb to the note after it.

[QUOTE=Apple Piepod;23841857]I believe he is talking about the Cb (the two in the divisi) and not the Bb after it... I was explaining that both notes are the same and not a C/Cb chord, which would be extremely dissonant. I wasn't talking about the relation of the Cb to the note after it.[/QUOTE] So you're talking about both the eighth note and the quarter note Cb? Sorry, I misunderstood.

Thanks you guys, this will let me get through this piece more easily now.

[QUOTE=AlmondMirage;23842689]So you're talking about both the eighth note and the quarter note Cb? Sorry, I misunderstood.[/QUOTE] Right. No big deal, just wanted to explain myself :buddy: [QUOTE=Nasake;23853543]Thanks you guys, this will let me get through this piece more easily now.[/QUOTE] Glad to help!