Seriously, what the fuck? Not all the Nazis were willing to join the army. Some of them were forced, some of them did for other reasons. And i bet some of them didn't want to kill Jews.
It's like someone goes up and yells "Fuck all the Nazi soldiers, bastards are burning in hell!" And he walks away with a smirk on his face. People flag him as a hero. But when someone shows his respect for the dead Nazi soldiers, he is an anti-black jew-eating terrorist racist Nazi skinhead etc etc.
WHAT THE FUCK Y'ALL?
Where's the hate, exactly?
Demonized by media.
That is all.
what hate
most other people respect german soldiers as much as american soldiers
My grampa was conscripted into the Wermacht, but was released from duty after being wounded by an American mortar.
I'm pretty sure the germans were brainwashed. People were really stupid back in the 1920s.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;24353898]what hate
most other people respect german soldiers as much as american soldiers[/QUOTE]
Lol, i'm registered to some different forums and i get bashed like a shit when i say something about respecting the dead Nazi soldiers.
Dude, they are nazis , nuff said
It's annoying when you have German ancestory and people are like "You Nazi".
Where is this hate? Haven't seen any of it over here.
[QUOTE=Brain scorcher;24353930]Lol, i'm registered to some different forums and i get bashed like a shit when i say something about respecting the dead Nazi soldiers.[/QUOTE]
[url]www.goarmy.com[/url]
[url]www.americanveteransofworldwar2.com[/url]
All this ^^^^
"Saving Private Ryan" actually showed them off as normal.
In the scene where they were directly facing each other after the wall collapsed, neither of the sides wanted to shoot, and the German guy who kills the other guy with a knife says "It'll be easier for you if you stop resisting".
At the same time, we see American soldiers shoot men who already surrendered on more than 1 occasion and "Don't shoot, let them burn".
They were just as good as any other soldier...
It is not like all of them worked in the death camps killing prisoners.
[QUOTE=Brain scorcher;24353873]Seriously, what the fuck? Not all the Nazis were willing to join the army. Some of them were forced, some of them did for other reasons. And i bet some of them didn't want to kill Jews.
It's like someone goes up and yells "Fuck all the Nazi soldiers, bastards are burning in hell!" And he walks away with a smirk on his face. People flag him as a hero. But when someone shows his respect for the dead Nazi soldiers, he is an anti-black jew-eating terrorist racist Nazi skinhead etc etc.
WHAT THE FUCK Y'ALL?[/QUOTE]
dead nazi soldiers haha
most of the dead soldiers that you're referring to belonged to the wehrmacht and were simple infantrymen, fighting for their country because they were drafted into doing so, not because they supported its agenda (though a good amount did)
Because World War 2 was the deadliest, most devastating war in human history, it's easy to harbor hatred for the Nazis even so long afterwards.
My great grandpa was a Nazi, he fled Germany with his family though once he got the chance. He didn't want anything to do with the war and abandoned an entire life where he was a land owner and had several shops.
They did their jobs like they were ordered to do. It's just that some of them took their job too far (camps and what not), therefor all of them are instantly labled.
Most of the regulars of the Wehrmacht were not members of the Nazi party and there were certainly some who were confused with the leadership or outright hated what they were doing.
The SS, on the other hand...well, that's a whole 'nother story.
Furthermore, I think it is a mistake to call all of the German soldiers "Nazi" soldiers and all German citizens of the WWII period "Nazis".
Source: [url]http://www.wisegeek.com/were-there-non-nazi-german-soldiers-in-wwii.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Aasokeo;24354086]Most of the regulars of the Wehrmacht were not members of the Nazi party and there were certainly some who were confused with the leadership or outright hated what they were doing.
The SS, on the other hand...well, that's a whole 'nother story.
Furthermore, I think it is a mistake to call all of the German soldiers "Nazi" soldiers and all German citizens of the WWII period "Nazis".
Source: [URL]http://www.wisegeek.com/were-there-non-nazi-german-soldiers-in-wwii.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]
it's not an opinion, you don't "think" it to be a mistake, it is factually a mistake
[QUOTE=L0LIMB0RED;24354018]Because World War 2 was the deadliest, most devastating war in human history, it's easy to harbor hatred for the Nazis even so long afterwards.[/QUOTE]
Except that not all members of the Wehrmacht were Nazis.
Ninjaed.
A lot of Germans were forced into joining the army. When people talk hatred of the German army they're not specifically thinking of the people who were forced. I know this guy from Germany who's grandpa was forced into being a Nazi and when the war was over he tries not to think of it. He doesn't want any of it in his mind, he hated the war and what they made him do.
When people say they hate Nazis or Germans who fought in WW2, don't get all mad at them. I'm sure if you explained how some were forced and some were not and asked if they hated the ones who were forced they'd say no. When they say they hate them, they really mean they hate the ones who joined of their own will and enjoyed killing innocent people.
[QUOTE=Aasokeo;24354086]Most of the regulars of the Wehrmacht were not members of the Nazi party and there were certainly some who were confused with the leadership or outright hated what they were doing.
The SS, on the other hand...well, that's a whole 'nother story.
Furthermore, I think it is a mistake to call all of the German soldiers "Nazi" soldiers and all German citizens of the WWII period "Nazis".
Source: [url]http://www.wisegeek.com/were-there-non-nazi-german-soldiers-in-wwii.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
If A Canadian were to join the American army, he'd be an American soldier.
If a German were to join the Wehrmacht, which was commanded by the Nazis, they become a soldier of the Nazis. If you Generalize, they become a Nazi.
They don't have to be members of the party, it's just a generalization.
[QUOTE=kellybear;24354118]it's not an opinion, you don't "think" it to be a mistake, it is factually a mistake[/QUOTE]
Well then, it IS a mistake. There you go.
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;24354121]Except that not all members of the Wehrmacht were Nazis.[/QUOTE]Didn't mean to put it that way. I meant to say the hate for the Nazi Party and even the Germans by some still lingers. If a war happened at home, directly threatening the livelihoods of you and all your loved ones, you would probably negatively generalize the enemy nation and it's people.
[QUOTE=Brain scorcher;24353873]Seriously, what the fuck? Not all the Nazis were willing to join the army. Some of them were forced, some of them did for other reasons. And i bet some of them didn't want to kill Jews.
It's like someone goes up and yells "Fuck all the Nazi soldiers, bastards are burning in hell!" And he walks away with a smirk on his face. People flag him as a hero. But when someone shows his respect for the dead Nazi soldiers, he is an anti-black jew-eating terrorist racist Nazi skinhead etc etc.
WHAT THE FUCK Y'ALL?[/QUOTE]
you say that like all germans were nazis
thats offensive
Civil War had more US deaths than any other war. Nobody gives a damn, however I find it very interesting.
You say what's with all the hate and then you go and call them Nazi soldiers?
WHAT THE FUCK, MAN?
Anyone who hates every member of the Wehrmacht because they were German is retarded, and I don't see anyone on FP doing it.
German soldier =/= Nazi.
A member of the SS was a Nazi, most Army higher ups were Nazi party members. However I guarantee you most soldiers were not all that politically active.
Plus being a Nazi didn't automatically brand you a demon in human form, look at Rommel, one of the most respected generals of the war.
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