• Jared Loughner - Crazy guy shoots senator.
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[quote=aolnews]His mug shot is haunting. Jared Loughner -- who might one day face the death penalty -- smirks at the camera. Days after Loughner allegedly shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed six bystanders, he remains something of a mystery. He is a 22-year-old who raised his hand to ask questions in class, but also got suspended. He is a man who often walked his dog around his neighborhood, but is now accused of killing a 9-year-old girl. Pima County Sheriff / AFP / Getty Images Jared Loughner, 22, of Tucson, Ariz., grins in his mug shot after being arrested following a shooting rampage that killed six people and left a congresswoman gravely wounded. He is a person described by friends as an atheist, who reportedly had an occult shrine in his backyard. A man obsessed with government, who didn't vote in the last election. A guy described as a loner, who stopped to leave a farewell message for friends. He's also a person, appearing in court with a shaved head, that a friend no longer recognizes. "That's not Jared Loughner. That's not my friend," Zane Gutierrez, 21, said this morning on NBC's "Today" show. "That's a monster. That's a different person." Loughner lived with his parents, who issued a statement Tuesday expressing sorrow for the victims of Saturday's rampage. "There are no words that can possibly express how we feel. We wish that there were so we could make you feel better. We don't understand why this happened," the statement said. "It may not make any difference, but we wish that we could change the heinous events of Saturday. We care very deeply about the victims and their families," the statement continued. "We are so very sorry for their loss." It may be weeks, even years, before we learn more about Loughner. Aside from a brief answer during a court appearance Monday, he hasn't spoken since his arrest in Tucson, Ariz., after Saturday's shootings, police said. He answered only "yes" when asked if he understood that he could get life in prison, or the death penalty, if he is convicted of killing federal Judge John Roll. Loughner faces five federal counts, including two charges of murder. More charges are expected in the attack, which killed six people, including 9-year-old Christina Green, and injured 14. Gutierrez told The New York Times that Loughner became proficient in shooting a 9 mm pistol when he was in high school, had a belief in anarchy and was fascinated by the meaning of his dreams. "Jared felt nothing existed but his subconscious," Gutierrez said. "The dream world was what was real to Jared, not the day-to-day of our lives." Gutierrez also told the Times, "He would ask me constantly, 'Do you see that blue tree over there?' He would admit to seeing the sky as orange and the grass as blue. Normal people don't talk about that stuff." Gutierrez said the friend he would meet for target practice liked chaos. "He was a nihilist and loves causing chaos, and that is probably why he did the shooting, along with the fact he was sick in the head," Gutierrez said. Debbie Scheidemantel, who taught Loughner biology at Pima Community College in the fall, recalled calling 911 after a classroom confrontation with him. Loughner's concern: that he wouldn't get full marks on a paper. She told CBS News that Loughner asked on Sept. 23 if he could turn in an assignment late. Scheidemantel said he could, but for half-credit. That upset Loughner, who argued for full credit, saying she was "taking away his individual rights, that it was unconstitutional," she said. She said she told Loughner they could talk at the break, and he calmed down. A few minutes later, she said, he raised his hand and asked if he could work in the library and hand the assignment in at the end of class. When she said he would still get only half-credit, he "started his rant about the Constitution, pointing to the flag, pointing to the Constitution up at the front of the room, and at that point, he wouldn't stop." Scheidemantel said she asked the students to be calm and wait, went into the next room and called 911. "He was not violent in any way, and he did not threaten anyone directly. But I did feel uneasy," Scheidemantel said. She said two officers responded and talked with Loughner for a while. A request from AOL News to the campus police for a copy of the incident report was denied because of the federal investigation. Just as Loughner worried about grades and raised his hand in class, Roxanne Osler, the mother of one of Loughner's close friends, Zach, told The Associated Press she was struck by how polite Loughner was -- far more so than her son's other friends. Despite his ability to show good manners, Loughner's odd behavior got him in trouble. Loughner, who attended Pima beginning in 2005, had five "contacts" with campus police and ultimately was suspended on Sept. 29 after campus police found a YouTube video in which he claimed that the college was illegal under the U.S. Constitution, the school said in a statement. Loughner and his parents met with college administrators Oct. 4, and he withdrew from school. The college said it couldn't release details of that meeting because of privacy rules and the ongoing investigation. Pima told Loughner if he intended to return to school, he would have to get clearance from a mental health worker indicating he would "not present a danger to himself or others." Pima officials said after this letter, they had no further contact with him. Here are some other details known about Loughner: He registered as an independent voter in Arizona in the fall of 2006. He attended a political event held by Giffords, a Democrat, in 2007, at which he asked her, "What is government if words have no meaning?" The Associated Press reported. Records show he voted in the 2006 and 2008 elections but did not vote in 2010, according to The Washington Post. He often walked the family dog. Although the family had increasingly little contact with neighbors, "his behavior this weekend, he didn't display any of that in the neighborhood," next-door neighbor George Payan, 82, told the Los Angeles Times. Friends describe Loughner as an atheist. But the New York Daily News showed photos of an altar of sorts inside a camouflage tent in his yard. The paper reported that a skull sat on top of a pot of shriveled oranges. A row of ceremonial candles and a bag of potting soil sit nearby. Experts told the paper that the elements suggest ceremonies of a number of occult groups. Pima County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Erin Gibson told AOL News that the search warrants in the case are sealed, and she could not comment. Loughner tried to enlist in the Army but was rejected in 2008 because he failed a drug test, the AP reported. Loughner has been described as a loner, but about eight hours before the Tucson tragedy, he phoned a friend with whom he had gone to high school and college. Bryce Tierney told the Mother Jones website that he didn't answer the call. When he later checked his voice mail, he heard: "Hey, man, it's Jared. Me and you had good times. Peace out. Later." Loughner also reportedly wrote on his MySpace page shortly before the shooting: "Goodbye friends. Please don't be mad at me." In 2007, Loughner was arrested on a misdemeanor charge involving possession of drug paraphernalia. It was dismissed after he completed a diversion program. In 2008, Loughner told police he used a marker to write two symbols that meant "Christian" on a street sign, according to Bloomberg News. The charge of writing graffiti was dropped after he completed a diversion program. Loughner told Tierney in 2008 that he was giving up drugs and cigarettes, and was going to work out, Mother Jones reported. "And the next time I saw him he was 10 pounds lighter." Tierney said. He said after Loughner went clean, however, "his theories got worse." Loughner's rambling online posts indicate a fear of the government. "After he quit, he was just off the wall," Tierney said.[/quote] [url]http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/12/jared-loughner-known-for-polite-manners-rants-about-constituti/[/url] [img]http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_loughner_mug_110110_mn.jpg[/img]
Jesus. But its almost hillarious.
The guy is as crazy as the Joker. What more do you need to know?
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;27444569]The guy is as crazy as the Joker. What more do you need to know?[/QUOTE] Not really, he's almost as crazy as Joker, but he just doesn't seem to have that level of insanity the Joker has.
He is staring into my soul.
Hasn't this been posted...like, 5 times?
[QUOTE=supersnail11;27444675]Hasn't this been posted...like, 5 times?[/QUOTE] not that I know of.
He reminds me of King Koopa from that Live Action Super Mario Bro.s movie.
Stop saying he is crazy, everything he did from the point of the shooting has been to make himself look crazy to build his defense.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27445288]Stop saying he is crazy, everything he did from the point of the shooting has been to make himself look crazy to build his defense.[/QUOTE] /sarcasm? As if somebody who shoots a senator in the head and fires into a crowd of people cant possibly be crazy.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27445288]Stop saying he is crazy, everything he did from the point of the shooting has been to make himself look crazy to build his defense.[/QUOTE] I don't know if this was sarcastic, but the man had a long history of insanity. He was recommended by his school to get mental help but he never went.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27445288]Stop saying he is crazy, everything he did from the point of the shooting has been to make himself look crazy to build his defense.[/QUOTE] :doh:
Natural troll face?
[quote=FuckWhat] When she said he would still get only half-credit, he "started his rant about the Constitution, pointing to the flag, pointing to the Constitution up at the front of the room, and at that point, he wouldn't stop." Scheidemantel said she asked the students to be calm and wait, went into the next room and called 911. [/quote] "Oh shit this student is over reacting gotta call 911"
Representative, not Senator. Not interchangeable. Congresswoman, however, could apply to both terms.
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;27446629]Representative, not Senator. Not interchangeable. Congresswoman, however, could apply to both terms.[/QUOTE] Actually, Congressman/Congresswoman applies to a member of the House of Representatives.
I think you forgot to mention how Sarah Palin got involved in yet another situation that was literally none of her business just to continue her attention whoring.
[quote]Loughner, who attended Pima beginning in 2005, had five "contacts" with campus police and ultimately was suspended on Sept. 29 after campus police found a YouTube video in which he claimed that the college was illegal under the U.S. Constitution, the school said in a statement.[/quote] Can anyone find this video?
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27446681]Actually, Congressman/Congresswoman applies to a member of the House of Representatives.[/QUOTE] Congressman is a term for anybody in Congress. Congress is made of both the House of Representatives and the Senate. [editline]15th January 2011[/editline] Also, this is massively late, but something you should read if you haven't already.
he's being controlled by the iliuminati using grammar!!!!! [url]http://www.latimes.com/videobeta/c3fab516-d2bb-4abd-b383-7b55f516becc/News/YouTube-video-created-by-Jared-Lee-Loughner-calling-Pima-Community-College-a-genocide-school-[/url]
[QUOTE]He is a person described by friends as an atheist, who reportedly had an occult shrine in his backyard[/QUOTE] What does the fact that he was an atheist have to do with any of this? And what the fuck does it have to do with an 'occult shrine'?
[QUOTE=R2Bl3nd;27447057]Can anyone find this video?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.latimes.com/videobeta/c3fab516-d2bb-4abd-b383-7b55f516becc/News/YouTube-video-created-by-Jared-Lee-Loughner-calling-Pima-Community-College-a-genocide-school-[/url] [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Jake_Steel;27447413]What does the fact that he was an atheist have to do with any of this? And what the fuck does it have to do with an 'occult shrine'?[/QUOTE] um, they're just stating that he had a occult shrine, and he was atheist. nothing more.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27445288]Stop saying he is crazy, everything he did from the point of the shooting has been to make himself look crazy to build his defense.[/QUOTE] are you serious?
this picture is very "lulz worthy"
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27445288]Stop saying he is crazy, everything he did from the point of the shooting has been to make himself look crazy to build his defense.[/QUOTE] Yes it will be used in his defense, because he is crazy.
he looks like natural born killer (the movie)
[url]http://www.earthempires.com/jared-loughner-arizona-shooter-posts#[/url] :frog:
[QUOTE=Jake_Steel;27447413]What does the fact that he was an atheist have to do with any of this? And what the fuck does it have to do with an 'occult shrine'?[/QUOTE] Better question: how can you be atheist and believe in the occult at the same time? This guy was just all-around crazy.
Being crazy isn't really a reason for violence like this. If it was, there would be a lot more shootings.
[QUOTE=Habsburg;27447918]Being crazy isn't really a reason for violence like this. If it was, there would be a lot more shootings.[/QUOTE] No two crazies are alike.
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