Less than a quarter of companies to hire in 2012, small businesses optimistic
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[quote]The employment picture won’t change much next year, with less than a quarter of hiring managers planning to take on more employees.In a survey of more than 3,000 human resource and hiring professionals, 23% said they’ll add full-time, permanent staff in 2012, down a bit from the 24% who said the same this year, according to [URL="http://img.icbdr.com/images/jp/pdf/us_2012_q1_forecast.pdf"]job search site CareerBuilder[/URL]. The percentage of companies that plan to cut staff -– 7% -- hasn’t budged year over year.
Seven in 10 firms either intend to keep their staff at the same size or are unsure of their hiring and layoff plans, according to CareerBuilder. Slightly more employers in the western part of the country will recruit new workers than in other U.S. regions –- but more companies there also plan to downsize their staff.
And employees jumped ship at 34% of companies this year, with many complaining of low salaries and work overload. Next year, 43% of hiring managers are worried that top talent will resign.
That may be why more than half say current workers will get pay raises in 2012 (mostly in the 1% to 5% range), with new employees at 32% of companies getting higher starting salaries.
There’s still hope that hiring will pick up in the latter half of 2012, according to CareerBuilder Chief Executive Matt Ferguson. Some companies are starting to focus on diversity, with 20% targeting Latino, black and female applicants and 44% intending to pick up new bilingual employees.
“Many companies have been operating lean and have already pushed productivity limits,” Ferguson said in a statement.
Small businesses are more optimistic than most –- a promising sign, since they are responsible for the bulk of job creation in the country. More companies with fewer than 250 employees plan to add workers in 2012 than did this year. Fewer said they’ll reduce head count.[/quote]
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I'm grateful I have a job, but I really need to move on up from minimum wage. And hearing this news is depressing. Minimum wage is not enough to support me and my daughter.
If anything companies are cutting back more. Has nothing to do with taxes or other politics, it is business as usual (Greed). Shit the store i worked for (I work for one of the biggest corporations in america.) was down in sales badly one day, so to balance that with some payroll bullshit they called everyone to the front for a morning meeting and basically said "All the part-timers go home, full-timers you're more then welcome to donate time (leave on their own behalf.) This has happened several times. It is fucking terrible.
Depressing indeed, it's really fucking pathetic when we live in a time where people are expected to consider themselves lucky to even hold a minimum wage cashier position at wal-mart.
Like I said 1 year ago. Companies are making record profits with all the things they cut back. They don't want to hire when they're making enough money without them.
Shit, I just hope the fact that I'm a soldier would give me an edge on the resume or at least I could get to know a few extra guys that could get me a job.
Funny cause at my privately owned food store the lowest we pay is 8.00 (cashier) and 90% of the rest of the store makes 8.50$ ontop of it everyone gets decent amount or great amounts of hours and anyone asst. manager above is paid well but not far gap inbetween. It's realisticly possible to get promoted and raises are given not like big corps that promise a raise every 6 months then nothing
min wage here in Ny is 7.25 btw so we are paying quite well
[QUOTE=MR-X;33944642]If anything companies are cutting back more. Has nothing to do with taxes or other politics, it is business as usual (Greed). Shit the store i worked for (I work for one of the biggest corporations in america.) was down in sales badly one day, so to balance that with some payroll bullshit they called everyone to the front for a morning meeting and basically said "All the part-timers go home, full-timers you're more then welcome to donate time (leave on their own behalf.) This has happened several times. It is fucking terrible.[/QUOTE]
It's probably retrenchment rather than "greed", businesses scale down human resources if they aren't needed. If you have 100 employees and the amount of demand means only 50 are needed for operations, you aren't going to hold on to all 100 employees because that maximises the chance of collapse (from greater costs relative to cash inflow), and if a collapse happens then possibly all 100 employees lose their jobs, not just 50 of them.
By retrenching, a business reduces the risk of all its employees losing their jobs, at the cost of some of the employees being laid off. That business is still capable of acquisition later on if needed, so it's better than the business collapsing altogether in terms of offering employment.
[QUOTE=MR-X;33944642]If anything companies are cutting back more. Has nothing to do with taxes or other politics, it is business as usual (Greed). Shit the store i worked for (I work for one of the biggest corporations in america.) was down in sales badly one day, so to balance that with some payroll bullshit they called everyone to the front for a morning meeting and basically said "All the part-timers go home, full-timers you're more then welcome to donate time (leave on their own behalf.) This has happened several times. It is fucking terrible.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure this makes poor highschool students, and any uni/college people part timing it with school
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And so now it's kind of like, "Well, if you're old enough (40-70) and you dont have a real job, because whatever, you got laid off, and there's no chance of u getting hired anywhere else so we'll take you full time, because we know you have no other job."
And i'm sure it makes things easier for smaller businesses to keep track of people. At what cost?
Now students who won't have enough money, has to make their parents poorer by borrowing money to pay for college???
Whatever man.
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That's how I feel.
Yeah, we're out of the "recession" and into the "new economic reality". High unemployment, zero job security, and shit pay that is constantly eroded by inflation are now permanent fixtures in American life. Might as well stop holding your breath and waiting for things to "get better", because they probably won't.
It doesn't help that so many companies are outsourcing [i]everything[/i] to India and China. Whats even worse is when the government does it, the Canadian government basically killed the cartography field here because they contract out to companies in India. They don't do it directly but the work ends up getting sold off to subcontractors and after all sorts of hoops and tricks it ends up in India rather than staying in the country.
Not to mention manufacturing is slowly becoming non existent. One of my first jobs was at SMART Technologies (you're school probably has at least one SMART Board somewhere) and the first summer I was there they were really gung-ho about their products proudly being made in Canada. Contract ended back to school then fast forward a few years I'm hired there again. This time? Oh by the way a new plant opened in Mexico, now less than 25% of the lines were running and the plant was almost empty. As of now the manufacturing operations in Canada have completely shut down and more than 200 people lost their jobs at the plant where I worked. What a shame.
Thank god I live in Australia, you guys should really move here if you're having tough times there's a lot of good paying jobs here :)
My company was hiring all of this year, but there aren't enough qualified people.
That's when I need to get a job to!
Well fuck.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;33945104]Thank god I live in Australia, you guys should really move here if you're having tough times there's a lot of good paying jobs here :)[/QUOTE]
My province has a lower unemployment rate than Australia, and I can't find a job
so
WTKR is crap, I'll give them radar but, sorry but they really don't news too well compared to 10onyourside or WVEC. Numbers skewed in this area anyways as we are mostly military which managers don't make the call.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33945198]My province has a lower unemployment rate than Australia, and I can't find a job
so[/QUOTE]
least in my experience there's a lot of areas here who are happy for a much needed hand
so
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;33945104]Thank god I live in Australia, you guys should really move here if you're having tough times there's a lot of good paying jobs here :)[/QUOTE]
Isn't Australia one of the most expensive places to live? That sounds counterproductive.
[QUOTE=MR-X;33944642]If anything companies are cutting back more. Has nothing to do with taxes or other politics, it is business as usual (Greed). Shit the store i worked for (I work for one of the biggest corporations in america.) was down in sales badly one day, so to balance that with some payroll bullshit they called everyone to the front for a morning meeting and basically said "All the part-timers go home, full-timers you're more then welcome to donate time (leave on their own behalf.) This has happened several times. It is fucking terrible.[/QUOTE]
Why is making losses greed?
If you owned a store and you lost some customers, you would not be able to run unless you laid off some employees.
If anything the employees are greedy, wanting jobs they can't have.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;33945104]Thank god I live in Australia, you guys should really move here if you're having tough times there's a lot of good paying jobs here :)[/QUOTE]
if you go for a trade you're pretty much guaranteed to find employment
[QUOTE=Tippmann357;33945490]Isn't Australia one of the most expensive places to live? That sounds counterproductive.[/QUOTE]
Not really, if you're having a tough time you go on welfare and get housing commission
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[QUOTE=Goberfish;33945653]if you go for a trade you're pretty much guaranteed to find employment[/QUOTE]
This, a lot of my mates are being paid well because they're doing building and construction shit.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;33945827]This, a lot of my mates are being paid well because they're doing building and construction shit.[/QUOTE]
Friend of mine in Victoria is making 80k a year right out of college as a tradie in metalworking. He's 20 years old.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;33945104]Thank god I live in Australia, you guys should really move here if you're having tough times there's a lot of good paying jobs here :)[/QUOTE]
Dirty Americans redbacks have been taking our jobs!
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[QUOTE=Tippmann357;33945490]Isn't Australia one of the most expensive places to live? That sounds counterproductive.[/QUOTE]
It's the most expensive because everyone has enough money to pay.
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[QUOTE=1239the;33946643]Friend of mine in Victoria is making 80k a year right out of college as a tradie in metalworking. He's 20 years old.[/QUOTE]
he did college and suddenly became a tradie?
don't you mean TAFE or an apprenticeship?
The government will also give you a 100k interest free loan for Uni
[QUOTE=Contag;33946656]he did college and suddenly became a tradie?
don't you mean TAFE or an apprenticeship?
The government will also give you a 100k interest free loan for Uni[/QUOTE]
He did a year and a half of TAFE, my bad.
I have a friend who left school sometime earlier in the year to follow an apprenticeship in boiler making, apparently that shit pays alot too.
When you think about it, all kinds of labour-related jobs down here offer good pay anyways. How else do you see people with fluro workers shirts driving brand new Falcons and Commodores.
A biology major walked into a bar
[spoiler]he begged the owner for a job and was eventually kicked out. [/spoiler]
[QUOTE=LF9000;33945608]Why is making losses greed?
If you owned a store and you lost some customers, you would not be able to run unless you laid off some employees.
[B]If anything the employees are greedy, wanting jobs they can't have.[/B][/QUOTE]
What. I'm sorry I must have read that wrong, for a second I thought you were calling the unemployed greedy... oh wait you are. How does that make any sense, what-so-ever. You are seriously calling people who have families to support greedy? Average people who need to pay to get through college? Average people who have medical bills to pay? They're greedy? I'm sorry, but the big wigs and their elite team of dick twirlers and rocket hookers are the ones who are fucking greedy.
On topic:
My dad lost his job as a corporate executive at 46. He's 50 now and he works 60+ hours a week at an auto parts store with employees that don't give two fucks about him or themselves. He came home one day after work and told me an employee [B][I]WALKED OUT OF THE STORE BECAUSE HE NEEDED TO, QUOTE, "SMOKE A CIGARETTE WHILE I TAKE A SHIT."[/I][/B]
Need a job? Norway, Switzerland, Belarus and Lichtenstein are the 4 countries with the lowest unemployment rates in the west.
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... with employees that don't give two fucks about him or themselves. He came home one day after work and told me an employee [B][I]WALKED OUT OF THE STORE BECAUSE HE NEEDED TO, QUOTE, "SMOKE A CIGARETTE WHILE I TAKE A SHIT."[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
Sounds like greed to me.
How dare those companies not hire so they won't go out of business I should have a job no matter what!!!!!! FUCK DA BIG MAN
Sounds like a typical child's thinking.
I don't care if you knee deep in debt, you learn to deal with shit since day one. What makes this different.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;33945104]Thank god I live in Australia, you guys should really move here if you're having tough times there's a lot of good paying jobs here :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah maybe, but you have monstrous spiders so It's not worth it.
[QUOTE=killover;33956430]Yeah maybe, but you have monstrous spiders so It's not worth it.[/QUOTE]
Pussy
You don't even see "monstrous" spiders that much anyways
[QUOTE=bobsmit;33945154]My company was hiring all of this year, but there aren't enough qualified people.[/QUOTE]
This...ugh (not directing at you or your company, just in general).
All I've been finding are jobs with mountains of requirements. I will admit I try to stay away from customer facing positions, but "mastery of the following 12 programming languages" paired with "must have 4 years experience" is ridiculous for an ENTRY LEVEL position.
It'd also be nice to get a response to an application. At this point, I'd be happy just to get an automated email with terrible grammar...
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