Man With Down Syndrome Goes To Movies; Choked To Death By Guards - Polidicks

[IMG]http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/HT_ethan_saylor_02_jef_130823_16x9_992.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Emma Saylor got a frantic call from her mother last January that her 26-year-old brother Ethan had been rushed to the hospital after a confrontation with Frederick County, Md., off-duty sheriff's officers at a movie theater showing of "Zero Dark Thirty." When he refused to buy another $12 ticket, off-duty police moonlighting as security guards allegedly tackled him in an attempt to eject him from his seat. Saylor said when the mall officers pulled Ethan from his seat he panicked and then screamed for his mother. An hour later, the young man was dead from [URL="http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-27/local/38068610_1_robert-ethan-saylor-autopsy-report-three-deputies"]"asphyxiation by homicide,"[/URL] according to the medical examiner's report. And now Saylor, 23, wants some answers about what happened to her older brother. "It was unreal," said Saylor, who works in affiliate relations for the National Down Syndrome Society. "All we know is he ended up dead. No one expects their brother to go to a movie and not come home." Now, Saylor has filed a petition on change.org calling for a new investigation and better law enforcement training, which has garnered more than 207,000 signatures. She has also asked the Maryland attorney general and governor to reopen the case. "He was always making us laugh and doing something goofy," she said. "Often we would drive to the mountains and do something special together. "The manner of death was determined to be homicide," said Bruce Goldfarb, assistant to the chief ME. Cpl. Jennifer Bailey, a spokeswoman for the sheriff's office, told the [URL="http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-27/local/38068610_1_robert-ethan-saylor-autopsy-report-three-deputies"]Washington Post[/URL] that Ethan swore and began kicking and hitting the deputies, who were not in uniform.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://abcnews.go.com/Health/syndrome-man-movies-ends-morgue/story?id=20046376[/URL]

What the everliving fuck

What the shit?

Why did they want him to buy another ticket?

enjoy never getting hired again you sack of shit

why the fuck would you start strangling a guy for not having a ticket

[QUOTE=Keelwar;41955408]Why did they want him to buy another ticket?[/QUOTE] He may have tried to sit through the credits into the next movie. It's utterly ridiculous that they let this happen though. How do you kill someone as a mall cop, let alone suffocate them?

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;41955421]why the fuck would you start strangling a guy for not having a ticket[/QUOTE] well it said he started attacking the officers but still, i don't know how that made them have to strangle him like that

[QUOTE=locojaws;41955521]well it said he started attacking the officers but still, i don't know how that made them have to strangle him like that[/QUOTE] And besides, unless he pulled out a gun, there's NO reason to use that much of a force unless your life was in a credible and grave danger.

[QUOTE=locojaws;41955521]well it said he started attacking the officers but still, i don't know how that made them have to strangle him like that[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if I believe that, for some reason.

he stayed in the theater after the credits and tried to sit through to the next movie im sure he had no idea he was doing anything wrong [editline]24th August 2013[/editline] here its all here [URL="https://www.change.org/petitions/justice-for-ethan-governor-martin-o-malley-we-need-an-independent-investigation-and-training-for-police?alert_id=rwTJzWGHBa_AGwnYFJwQp&utm_campaign=31925&utm_medium=email&utm_source=action_alert"]https://www.change.org/petitions/justice-for-ethan-governor-martin-o-malley-we-need-an-independent-investigation-and-training-for-police?alert_id=rwTJzWGHBa_AGwnYFJwQp&utm_campaign=31925&utm_medium=email&utm_source=action_alert[/URL]

Interested to see if his murderer faces any consequences. Police who commit crimes sometimes get covered for actually, they usually get covered for. But not always, thank goodness

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;41955579]I'm not sure if I believe that, for some reason.[/QUOTE] thats some crap you make up after you kill someone and start freaking out "oh shit OH SHIT [B]OH SHITTTTTTT[/B]" "HE STARTED IT"

I hate that this happened but I get the distinct feeling there's something we're missing. I'm most likely being over-optimistic in thinking that these sort of disgustingly violent people don't exist.

I'm sure there's something we're missing, think about this logically, why would security guards murder a mentally disabled person for no reason, that literally makes no sense at all (unless they were mentally unstable)

[QUOTE=Mikk;41956108]I hate that this happened but I get the distinct feeling there's something we're missing. I'm most likely being over-optimistic in thinking that these sort of disgustingly violent people don't exist.[/QUOTE] I feel like that too. Might sound a bit callous, but I think it might have been too easy for the article writer to paint the cop as some sort of monster who kills the mentally handicapped because he can. You'd have to be some sort of psycho to strangle someone to death over not having a ticket.

[QUOTE=Mikk;41956108]I hate that this happened but I get the distinct feeling there's something we're missing. I'm most likely being over-optimistic in thinking that these sort of disgustingly violent people don't exist.[/QUOTE] Sorry but they exist and there's no way of thinking that can prevent that however they're like extremely rare, so, you don't have to worry that much, you're still probably right. Being a good man doesn't mean you always do good. Even good men can do bad. Something DOES feel off, yes. [QUOTE=Samiam22;41956182]I feel like that too. Might sound a bit callous, but I think it might have been too easy for the article writer to paint the cop as some sort of monster who kills the mentally handicapped because he can. You'd have to be some sort of psycho to strangle someone to death over not having a ticket.[/QUOTE] If I'm thinking from a journalists point of view, who would want to read about A" simple misunderstanding where no one is guilty or innocent" Realistic stories don't sell.

[QUOTE=J!NX;41956184]Sorry but they exist and there's no way of thinking that can prevent that however they're like extremely rare, so, you don't have to worry that much, you're still probably right. Being a good man doesn't mean you always do good. Even good men can do bad. Something DOES feel off, yes. If I'm thinking from a journalists point of view, who would want to read about A" simple misunderstanding where no one is guilty or innocent" Realistic stories don't sell.[/QUOTE] That's the worst part, it makes sense to mislead people!

i think we're missing something

[QUOTE=J!NX;41955809]thats some crap you make up after you kill someone and start freaking out "oh shit OH SHIT [B]OH SHITTTTTTT[/B]" "HE STARTED IT"[/QUOTE] Honestly I believe it considering the alternative that they decided to murder a mentally disabled kid for no reason, I figure he attacked them, they got him in a head lock or something, and he wouldn't stop fighting so they kept on choking him, but I guess he died or something, probably tired himself out and his brain lost oxygen ultra-hard. I dunno.

[QUOTE=Aspen;41956355]i think we're missing something[/QUOTE] Maybe, but choking to death is definitely not the optimal option

[QUOTE=Keelwar;41955408]Why did they want him to buy another ticket?[/QUOTE] [quote]Ethan, who had Down syndrome, enjoyed the film so much that he decided to go back to his seat for a second showing while his aide went to get the car to take them home. When he refused to buy another $12 ticket, off-duty police moonlighting as security guards allegedly tackled him in an attempt to eject him from his seat.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41956376]Honestly I believe it considering the alternative that they decided to murder a mentally disabled kid for no reason, I figure he attacked them, they got him in a head lock or something, and he wouldn't stop fighting so they kept on choking him, but I guess he died or something, probably tired himself out and his brain lost oxygen ultra-hard. I dunno.[/QUOTE] Part of me is thinking that, part of me is thinking they had a really bad day and just... fucked up really horribly. That or they have some serious, serious mental and anger issues but I doubt that. In the end, we have no idea what the actual story is, unfortunately. So I guess we can just speculate. And in the end, who actually expects to die at a theater, even if it was bad luck, that's seriously messed up. I can't even imagine how angry and depressed the parent(s) feel. Holy shit.

I remember reading about this in FP some year(s) ago.

[QUOTE=Keelwar;41955408]Why did they want him to buy another ticket?[/QUOTE] Because he went back into the theater to watch the movie again while his aid was doing something in the car.

this story is like 6-7 months old [url]http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/man-down-syndrome-loved-police-died-police-custody-183111733.html[/url]

The fact these officers got off for it is disgusting.

[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41956489]this story is like 6-7 months old [url]http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/man-down-syndrome-loved-police-died-police-custody-183111733.html[/url][/QUOTE] Strange that Abc news would release an article about it now. Its also strange that the grand jury decided not to prosecute the officers involved in the death.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41956515]Strange that Abc news would release an article about it now. Its also strange that the grand jury decided not to prosecute the officers involved in the death.[/QUOTE] this isnt about it happening its about the after effects of it happening

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41956515]Strange that Abc news would release an article about it now. Its also strange that the grand jury decided not to prosecute the officers involved in the death.[/QUOTE] sadly that's pretty much how punishment works for law enforcement agents a lot of the time [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41956489]this story is like 6-7 months old [url]http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/man-down-syndrome-loved-police-died-police-custody-183111733.html[/url][/QUOTE] not the same story