Committee Chair Requests Donald Trump Jr. Testify On Capitol Hill - Polidicks

[B][U]Committee Chair Requests Donald Trump Jr. Testify On Capitol Hill[/U][/B] [url]http://www.npr.org/2017/07/13/537037494/donald-trump-jr-asked-to-testify-on-capitol-hill-next-week[/url] [QUOTE] Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, tells NPR that he has sent a letter to Donald J. Trump Jr. saying that he wants the president's son to testify in an open session of the committee as early as next week and will subpoena him if necessary. Trump Jr. told Sean Hannity of Fox News that he is willing to testify under oath about his meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya in June 2016. [/QUOTE]

"but there's nothing illegal about it!" except for it probably violating federal election laws as well as general conspiracy laws

He had intent to receive political aid from a foreign adversary. It doesn't matter if he claims he didn't, he had intent.

i wonder if he's so bold as to lie under oath to congress.

[QUOTE=xxfalconxx;52465830]i wonder if he's so bold as to lie under oath to congress.[/QUOTE] Maybe he'll get a presidential pardon and the GOP won't care enough to fight it. :thinking:

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52465833]Maybe he'll get a presidential pardon and the GOP won't care enough to fight it. :thinking:[/QUOTE] If he got a pardon that would be absolutely bonkers oh my god, it wouldn't even be funny

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52465833]Maybe he'll get a presidential pardon and the GOP won't care enough to fight it. :thinking:[/QUOTE] Can he get a pardon for treason? [editline]13th July 2017[/editline] Well, if he can't I'm sure the republicans are looking into a bill that allows him to. Ans then they would call it sometbing like 'the whistle-blower freedom act' or something

[QUOTE=gokiyono;52465859]Can he get a pardon for treason? [editline]13th July 2017[/editline] Well, if he can't I'm sure the republicans are looking into a bill that allows him to. Ans then they would call it sometbing like 'the whistle-blower freedom act' or something[/QUOTE] They could probably argue it doesn't count as "treason" if we aren't under active war, and that would be enough for the GOP to bend over backwards and turn a blind eye to this blatant abuse of power. After seeing the lackadaisical response to all the other blatant abuses of power on months end, there is no low that the GOP could stoop to in their defense of Trump that would surprise me at this point.

What Orange Jr. did would not count as treason, in a legal sense. It [I]might[/I] qualify as conspiracy to commit treason, but I don't think it would stick. However, it was a very clear violation of several election laws. It's worth repeating here that impeachment doesn't care about "illegal", it cares about "wrong". As it would be foolish to try to list all the ways a President could abuse their power, the only requirement is that Congress decides it is necessary. Trump clearly collaborated with a foreign power to swing the election - even if it was a close ally, that would still be wrong, and Russia is not an ally by any stretch of the imagination. That's impeachment-worthy, and I have pretty high confidence that, once Mueller is done compiling the proof, Trump will be out of office shortly after. Even Republicans can't ignore this, once there's sufficient proof.

Does Trump Jr. have to commit to the request or can he just kinda go: 'No, thank you' ?

[QUOTE=Coolboy;52466665]Does Trump Jr. have to commit to the request or can he just kinda go: 'No, thank you' ?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, tells NPR that he has sent a letter to Donald J. Trump Jr. saying that he ... will subpoena him if necessary.[/QUOTE] If he refuses then he'll be forced to comply or be charged for that. And once he's faced with those charges he'd likely be taken into custody and forced into the courtroom. At that point refusing would only make things worse and worse for him while only serving to incriminate him more.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;52466691]If he refuses then he'll be forced to comply or be charged for that. And once he's faced with those charges he'd likely be taken into custody and forced into the courtroom. At that point refusing would only make things worse and worse for him while only serving to incriminate him more.[/QUOTE] Ah fuck, that line skipped me. Thanks.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;52466184]What Orange Jr. did would not count as treason, in a legal sense. It [I]might[/I] qualify as conspiracy to commit treason, but I don't think it would stick. However, it was a very clear violation of several election laws. It's worth repeating here that impeachment doesn't care about "illegal", it cares about "wrong". As it would be foolish to try to list all the ways a President could abuse their power, the only requirement is that Congress decides it is necessary. Trump clearly collaborated with a foreign power to swing the election - even if it was a close ally, that would still be wrong, and Russia is not an ally by any stretch of the imagination. That's impeachment-worthy, and I have pretty high confidence that, once Mueller is done compiling the proof, Trump will be out of office shortly after. Even Republicans can't ignore this, once there's sufficient proof.[/QUOTE] its illegal to recieve or seek aid from foreign nationals and governments in federal elections, it doesn't matter that he tried and failed, the act of trying is also a crime, conspiracy to commit a crime, and in this case we do have exacting evidence to show exactly what he was doing so its not the usually tough bar to prove