US National Guard troops deployed at Mexico border - Polidicks

[B]US National Guard troops have been deployed along the country's southern border between the state of California and Mexico. [/B] [release] They are the first of more than 1,000 troops President Barack Obama has authorised to beef up border security. There are some 12 million people in the US illegally and most have crossed the southern border from Mexico. Immigration has become a central issue ahead of important national elections in November. California has sent more than 200 military personnel to its southern border with Mexico. They are the first of up to 1,200 National Guard Troops who will support existing border agents in the four US states along the country's southwestern frontier. California's Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said the troops had been called to help protect the safety of the American people. They will be operational from September. But he warned the country must find a permanent solution to its broken immigration system. The deployment of National Guard troops is part of Mr Obama's response to loud calls to do more to secure America's borders against drug smugglers, human traffickers and illegal immigrants. Another border state, Arizona, recently passed tough new anti-immigration laws, complaining the federal government had failed to act.[/release] Obama doing the good work as always.:patriot: [editline]06:26PM[/editline] [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11020174]Source, with Video[/url]

[quote] Obama doing the good work as always.[/quote] Was that his decision?

[QUOTE=ohadje;24179627]Was that his decision?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]They are the first of more than 1,000 troops President Barack Obama has authorised to beef up border security.[/QUOTE] He could have, not authorised it I guess.

Oh the pres. needs to authorize that... I thought the states were more independent/autonomous than that. Good to know.

I'm glad illegal immigration is back in the spotlight, it's been ignored by politicians far too long.

Good job, Obama! :patriot: Now for the rest of the border

[QUOTE=usaokay;24179618]This is somewhat a good and bad thing. Good because it will make the drug trade harder from Mexico to the US. Bad because some of the illegal immigrants are [B]poor families who want a better life in the US.[/B][/QUOTE] not to be rude, ignorant, or an asshole. But being poor and shit doesn't give you a pass to illegally come into the US and mooch off it because you want "a better life". Get your passports and do it leagaly. Because if you get caught your ass gets deported, and nobody gives a shit if you just want a better life for your family. Its the same fucking thing as if you lived in a large mansion some ghetto ass couple decides to start living in your backyard. EDIT: why the fuck do I always put the fucking apostrophe in want? wan't=wrong-----want=right

[QUOTE=usaokay;24179618]This is somewhat a good and bad thing. Good because it will make the drug trade harder from Mexico to the US. Bad because some of the [b]illegal immigrants are poor families who want a better life in the US.[/b][/QUOTE] They should fill out the necessary paperwork. Not our fault their country is horrendous. And interestingly enough, Mexico is harder to get into than America.

There are a lot of people in this thread who have no idea how difficult gaining citizenship is. Also, putting 1,200 troops on the border won't do shit. The real issue here is the immigration system and war on drugs.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24186653]There are a lot of people in this thread who have no idea how difficult gaining citizenship is.[/QUOTE] The difficulty of gaining citizenship if you ask me is one of the primary causes of illegal immigration. Even if you have family in the U.S., it takes [i]years[/i] to become a legal citizen. It's ridiculous. [editline]01:26PM[/editline] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Immigration.jpg[/img]

Hey, you know what might stop illegal immigration? Make companies stop hiring them.

[QUOTE=Trashcan_Man;24186876]Hey, you know what might stop illegal immigration? Make companies stop hiring them.[/QUOTE] You know what would cause that? American citizens actually wanting to do the jobs for low pay.

That is one insightful flowchart.

[QUOTE=italics560;24184936]not to be rude, ignorant, or an asshole. But being poor and shit doesn't give you a pass to illegally come into the US and mooch off it because you wan't "a better life". Get your passports and do it leagaly. Because if you get caught your ass gets deported, and nobody gives a shit if you just want a better life for your family. Its the same fucking thing as if you lived in a large mansion some ghetto ass couple decides to start living in your backyard.[/QUOTE] You have no idea how ignorant and stupid you sound. Seriously, know what you're talking about before you say stuff like that. Getting a passport and citizenship is not easy. Congratulations on sounding rude, ignorant, and like an asshole. [editline]01:44PM[/editline] This is why so many people on Facepunch would fail terribly at politics or any position of power if they tried it.

[QUOTE=usaokay;24179618]This is somewhat a good and bad thing. Good because it will make the drug trade harder from Mexico to the US. Bad because some of the illegal immigrants are poor families who want a better life in the US.[/QUOTE] What about the poor families with no jobs that have lived in America all their life? The point is, people need to stop fucking worrying about others when they need to worry about themselves.

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;24187140]You have no idea how ignorant and stupid you sound. Seriously, know what you're talking about before you say stuff like that. Getting a passport and citizenship is not easy. Congratulations on sounding rude, ignorant, and like an asshole. [editline]01:44PM[/editline] This is why so many people on Facepunch would fail terribly at politics or any position of power if they tried it.[/QUOTE] Still. Illegal immigration is not helping our current economic state, and illegal immigrants need to understand that they are not the only ones with problems.

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;24186225]They should fill out the necessary paperwork. [b]Not our fault their country is horrendous.[/b] And interestingly enough, Mexico is harder to get into than America.[/QUOTE] drug war [editline]02:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Viephemeral;24187325]Still. Illegal immigration is not helping our current economic state, and illegal immigrants need to understand that they are not the only ones with problems.[/QUOTE] [img]http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/11/16/129029123563837554.jpg[/img] Maybe they should make it easier to immigrate then?

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;24187140]This is why so many people on Facepunch would fail terribly at politics or any position of power if they tried it.[/QUOTE] You fail at populism.

I'm all for the immigration of people who are trying to escape the shithole country that is Mexico due to government corruption and drug wars in order to make better for their families or themselves but it's the greaseballs that come over here and sling their drugs and shit to the kids on the corner that make it hard for anyone to sympathize with those who are actually trying to do better for themselves. You don't see on the news that a nice Mexican couple that is escaping from the corruption and crime in their country you only see the gangbanging, drug slinging, greaseballs who come over here and think that they are above the law getting arrested or killed in a gun fight. It has created the stereotype that all illegals coming from Mexico are only here to cause trouble and peddle their goods to kids/teens/etc and thanks to such wonderful news outlets such as FOX news, you only see the negative side of such immigration and that's what causes peoples xenophobic fears of Mexicans coming over the border even if they have good intentions.

Good to see something has been done to stop illegal immigration.

[QUOTE=italics560;24184936]not to be rude, ignorant, or an asshole. But being poor and shit doesn't give you a pass to illegally come into the US and mooch off it because you wan't "a better life". Get your passports and do it leagaly. Because if you get caught your ass gets deported, and nobody gives a shit if you just want a better life for your family. Its the same fucking thing as if you lived in a large mansion some ghetto ass couple decides to start living in your backyard.[/QUOTE] You are an asshole. These people WORK they don't mooch. They do all the shitty jobs that most Americans think they're too good for. The legal way is almost impossible and it's not like the US is full.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;24186979]You know what would cause that? American citizens actually wanting to do the jobs for low pay.[/QUOTE] The problem is with that is the illegals are willing to work for far less. You try living off of minimum wage.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24186653]There are a lot of people in this thread who have no idea how difficult gaining citizenship is. Also, putting 1,200 troops on the border won't do shit. The real issue here is the immigration system and war on drugs.[/QUOTE] Like I said in another thread, I'd support immigration reform, but until that happens it is what it is and they need to deal with it, as generations prior to them have done.

[QUOTE=usaokay;24179618]This is somewhat a good and bad thing. Good because it will make the drug trade harder from Mexico to the US. Bad because some of the illegal immigrants are poor families who want a better life in the US.[/QUOTE] Poor or not, people don't deserve the right to illegally migrate and expect to become a US citizen with good work.

[QUOTE=Loen;24186704]The difficulty of gaining citizenship if you ask me is one of the primairy causes of illegal immigration. Even if you have family in the U.S., it takes [i]years[/i] to become a legal citizen. It's ridiculous. [editline]01:26PM[/editline] [img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Immigration.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Thanks, informative flow chart right here.

[QUOTE=JDK721;24186653]There are a lot of people in this thread who have no idea how difficult gaining citizenship is. Also, putting 1,200 troops on the border won't do shit. The real issue here is the immigration system and war on drugs.[/QUOTE] We even print our citizenship tests in their god damn language for fucks sake

[QUOTE=Badal;24183980]I'm glad illegal immigration is back in the spotlight, it's been ignored by politicians far too long.[/QUOTE] I agree, we need to stop focusing on the pointless wars that are taking most of the country's money and more on people who don't take as much from us.

Shit, is immigration realy that difficult? Can't you join the armed forces or something to become a citizen? If not, fuck

One question remains: why isn't Mexico doing a damn thing about this?

[QUOTE=TheTalon;24195560]We even print our citizenship tests in their god damn language for fucks sake[/QUOTE] Did you read that flow chart? In most cases it takes at least a decade to become a citizen.