Australian Christian Lobby packs another chromosome by saying smoking is healthier than Gay Marriage - Polidicks

[IMG]http://www.sydneypc.com/images/Logos/ninemsn_logo_hor_pos.gif[/IMG] [QUOTE][B]The head of the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) Jim Wallace says smoking is healthier than the lifestyle that would be promoted by same-sex marriage.[/B] Mr Wallace made the claim in a debate on marriage equality with Greens leader Christine Milne at the University of Tasmania on Wednesday. Answering a question from a student on the relevance of his views, he said health statistics among the gay community were worse than those for smokers. "I think we're going to owe smokers a big apology when the homosexual community's own statistics for its health - which it presents when it wants more money for health - are that is has higher rates of drug-taking, of suicide, it has the life of a male reduced by up to 20 years," he told the audience. "The life of smokers is reduced by something like seven to 10 years and yet we tell all our kids at school they shouldn't smoke." After the debate, Mr Wallace said the figures saddened him. "But what I'm saying is we need to be aware that the homosexual lifestyle carries these problems and ... normalising the lifestyle by the attribution of marriage, for instance, has to be considered in what it does encouraging people into it," he said. Mr Wallace said legalising same-sex marriage in other countries had not reduced risk factors for gay people. "Where gay marriage has been introduced, or civil unions, it hasn't changed the level of suicide," he said. "We have to accept the unfortunate levels of suicide, the unfortunate levels of excessive drug use (are) because of the nature of the lifestyle. "I am very sorry for that. My heart goes out to those people. But it is a fact." Senator Milne said discrimination in laws such as the Marriage Act was a contributor to any health concerns. "What I know is that the mental health issues for young gay people particularly are certainly increased when discrimination occurs," she told reporters. There was little love lost between Mr Wallace and Senator Milne during the debate. Senator Milne accused the ACL of homophobia and said Christians should be more concerned with poverty than homosexuality. She said with bills before the federal parliament and Tasmania's lower house last week passing a same-sex marriage bill, change was inevitable. Mr Wallace accused the Greens of demonising churches with "hate language" and caring more for trees than children. He described gay activism as "bullying" and said a climate had been created for "legislation by fatigue". Tasmanian marriage equality advocates said the ACL was using outdated figures from a survey of obituaries in San Francisco newspapers at the height of the AIDS crisis. "Yes, there are health problems in parts of the gay and lesbian community, but they are caused by the prejudice of people like Mr Wallace and the discriminatory laws he defends," Tasmanian Gay and Lesbian Rights Group spokesman Rodney Croome said in a statement. "Mr Wallace's offensive remarks show how desperate he has become, and they effectively deal the Australian Christian Lobby out of the marriage equality debate." Mr Croome said ACL representatives had previously linked gay equality to Nazis, paedophiles and the stolen generations. "The quoting of irrelevant and biased studies to stigmatise gay Australians is a low and desperate tactic that diminishes Mr Wallace and his cause," Mr Croome said.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8528026/smoking-healthier-than-gay-marriage-acl[/URL]

what the fuck seriously

Is anyone else getting tired of this anti-science anti-human decency shit? Fuck me.

Next thing you know they'll say cancer is healthier than gay marriage.

[QUOTE=Dakarun;37549426]Next thing you know they'll say cancer is healthier than gay marriage.[/QUOTE] And after that, death will be healthier than gay marriage.

fuck christian lobbyists are complete cunts no matter what country they live in

Thankfully nearly everyone thinks they're fucking insane. Unfortunately, their leader was once commander of the Australian Special Air Service Regiment....

wow we sure have some nutjobs... With a headline like that, I'm sure it does wonders for their already "amazing" credibility and "fanbase"

I'm sorry, I appear to have traveled back in time to the 1940's. No but seriously, what a cunt.

god damnit that thread title I laughed.

I wonder what it feels like to occupy the empty space in these peoples brains.

[QUOTE=SeamanStains;37549751]I wonder what it feels like to occupy the empty space in these peoples brains.[/QUOTE] You can hear echoes

What the shit? I'm surprised theses people can still breath for all the intelligence that they show.

And here I thought the american bible thumpers were bad enough. Holy shit.

Stay classy, ACL.

>homosexuality is a lifestyle..

[quote] "I think we're going to owe smokers a big apology when the homosexual community's own statistics for its health - which it presents when it wants more money for health - are that [b][noparse][it][/noparse] has higher rates of drug-taking, of suicide, it has the life of a male reduced by up to 20 years,"[/b] he told the audience.[/quote] hmm I wonder if there's any correlation between high drug use/suicide and being treating like a sub-human by the government and populace

Why can't we just give LGBT people the same rights that straight people have had since forever. christ

its true, one of my friends turned gay and got cancer and HIV. dont do gays kids.

[B][I]AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TASMANIA[/I][/B]

Yes, homosexuals turn to suicide or drugs because something about being homosexual is just so damned depressing. Though it just [I]could not [/I]be because of entire political parties and religions wanting to dehumanize them and strip them of their rights, not because of the constant societal stigma against them, not because of the looming threat of being disowned by their loved ones for something they cannot control, not because of the continuing, overwhelming message given by society that they are somehow beneath the rest of humanity. That'd just make no sense. No, it must be because being homosexual is just, by it's very nature, depressing. For some vague reason.

Ahahaha the title

Either way you're sucking on a fag.