US Attorney General Loretta Lynch, Bill Clinton meet privately in Phoenix before Benghazi report - Polidicks

[QUOTE]PHOENIX - Amid an ongoing investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of email and hours before the public release of the Benghazi report, US Attorney General Loretta Lynch met privately with former President Bill Clinton. The private meeting took place on the west side of Sky Harbor International Airport on board a parked private plane. The private meeting comes as [B]Lynch's office is in charge of the ongoing investigation and potential charges involving Clinton's email server[/B]. Lynch said the private meeting on the tarmac did not involve these topics. "Our conversation was a great deal about grandchildren, it was primarily social about our travels and he mentioned golf he played in Phoenix," said Lynch Tuesday afternoon while speaking at the Phoenix Police Department. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/loretta-lynch-bill-clinton-meet-privately-in-phoenix"]ABC News[/URL] Nice to see that the Secretary of State and the person managing her investigation are such great friends! I bet it must've been such a thrilling conversation about[I] golf [/I]and [I]grandchildren.[/I]

[QUOTE]"Our conversation was a great deal about [B]grandchildren[/B], it was primarily social about our travels and he mentioned golf he played in Phoenix," said Lynch Tuesday afternoon while speaking at the Phoenix Police Department.[/QUOTE] I can see that happening. Bill probably said: "You have really sweet grandchildren. [URL="http://i.imgur.com/PieDL6L.jpg"]It would be a shame if something happened to them.[/URL]" [editline]30th June 2016[/editline] How any American can defend these crooks is beyond belief.

I can't wait until trump loses so you two stop posting

[QUOTE=orgornot;50620531]I can see that happening. Bill probably said: "You have really sweet grandchildren. [URL="http://i.imgur.com/PieDL6L.jpg"]It would be a shame if something happened to them.[/URL]" [editline]30th June 2016[/editline] How any American can defend these crooks is beyond belief.[/QUOTE] Can we get some sources on this? Googling primarily turned up some clickbait and 9/11 truther type sites, so I'm taking this with a big pinch of salt.

I can't wait until trump wins so you'll all quit deluding yourselves into thinking it's okay to vote for a corporate jizzrag.

[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;50620563]I can't wait until trump wins so you'll all quit deluding yourselves into thinking it's okay to vote for a corporate jizzrag.[/QUOTE] in an ideal world, neither Shillary nor Trump should've ever been seriously considered for primaries, never mind the actual presidential election. The good news is that Trump keeps messing up, has no more money to fund his campaign, and everybody can see for themselves how big a fool he is. I want neither a corporate shill nor a climate change denier who throws childish tantrums anytime somebody closely questions him on his policies and statements to become President of one of the most powerful countries of the world. Failing all else, if I had no other choice I would vote Shillary because it's just going to be more of the same rather than whatever disaster Trump would see fit to inflict on the poor people of the USA.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;50620571]in an ideal world, neither Shillary nor Trump should've ever been seriously considered for primaries, never mind the actual presidential election. The good news is that Trump keeps messing up, has no more money to fund his campaign, and everybody can see for themselves how big a fool he is. I want neither a corporate shill nor a climate change denier who throws childish tantrums anytime somebody closely questions him on his policies and statements to become President of one of the most powerful countries of the world. Failing all else, if I had no other choice I would vote Shillary because it's just going to be more of the same rather than whatever disaster Trump would see fit to inflict on the poor people of the USA.[/QUOTE] If anything Hitlary is just as bad, if not worse, than Trump just because she has no problem lying through her teeth. Anyone who has no problem lying straight to peoples' faces just for political gain would have no problem fucking us over as much as Trump would once she secured office.

[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;50620580]If anything Hitlary is just as bad, if not worse, than Trump just because she has no problem lying through her teeth. Anyone who has no problem lying straight to peoples' faces just for political gain would have no problem fucking us over as much as Trump would once she secured office.[/QUOTE] Dude, wait. You think Trump's honest? You think the guy has more integrity than Hillary? Ahahahah. My god, that's amazing. [url]http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/[/url] Politifact doesn't get all of those right, but it gets most spot on. Oh, and you should see this. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ[/media]

[QUOTE=archangel125;50620629]Dude, wait. You think Trump's honest? You think the guy has more integrity than Hillary? Ahahahah. My god, that's amazing. [URL]http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/[/URL] Politifact doesn't get all of those right, but it gets most spot on. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/27/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-correct-analysts-have-called-donal/"][IMG]http://puu.sh/pL8qj/7935939abd.png[/IMG][/URL] thats pretty good

[QUOTE=KillRay;50620550]I can't wait until trump loses so you two stop posting[/QUOTE] Are you seriously upset that people are posting threads that make your opinion look bad? This forum isn't a circlejerk. There may be threads that may contain people with differing viewpoints. If you are uncomfortable with this, you're more than welcome to not click on said threads. [QUOTE=archangel125;50620629]Dude, wait. You think Trump's honest? You think the guy has more integrity than Hillary? Ahahahah. My god, that's amazing. [URL]http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/[/URL] Politifact doesn't get all of those right, but it gets most spot on. [/QUOTE] No, it doesn't really get 'most spot on'. As I observed last time someone brought up Politifact, [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1523453&p=50545132#post50545132"]it's pretty biased.[/URL] They're far more critical of the right than they are the left, which isn't surprising, given that they're owned by the Tampa Bay Times-- a left-wing newspaper.

[QUOTE=archangel125;50620629]Dude, wait. You think Trump's honest? You think the guy has more integrity than Hillary? Ahahahah. My god, that's amazing. [url]http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/[/url] Politifact doesn't get all of those right, but it gets most spot on.[/QUOTE] but who fact checks politifact???

[QUOTE=Monkah;50620639]Are you seriously upset that people are posting threads that make your opinion look bad? This forum isn't a circlejerk. There may be threads that may contain people with differing viewpoints. If you are uncomfortable with this, you're more than welcome to not click on said threads.[/QUOTE] Nah not upset, I just find you and orgonot usually aggressively wrong, and very stubborn as well so its not interesting my opinions are top of the line in quality anyway

As bad as Hillary is she will uphold Dodd-Frank, support net neutrality, keep pushing on social issues, won't antagonize minorities and immigrants, believes in Climate Change, nominate liberal supreme court justices that could potentially help to get money out of politics among other issues, etc. Trump is just another right winger except completely incompetent, narcissistic, and authoritarian. And to pretend like he isn't himself a liar and corrupt is being naive. You can't trust either, but I'll take the status quo.

[QUOTE=shadow_oap;50620645]nominate liberal supreme court justices that could potentially help to get money out of politics among other issues[/QUOTE] I won't bother with the rest for now-- but can you really say Clinton is trying to make for less corrupt politics when things like what's detailed in the OP happen?

[QUOTE=archangel125;50620629]Dude, wait. You think Trump's honest? You think the guy has more integrity than Hillary? Ahahahah. My god, that's amazing. [url]http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/[/url] Politifact doesn't get all of those right, but it gets most spot on. Oh, and you should see this. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ[/media][/QUOTE] Politifact is incredibly biased against Trump to make it seem like he lies most of the time and oh my god I can't believe you're seriously using a John Oliver as video as argument.

[QUOTE=Monkah;50620639]Are you seriously upset that people are posting threads that make your opinion look bad? This forum isn't a circlejerk. There may be threads that may contain people with differing viewpoints. If you are uncomfortable with this, you're more than welcome to not click on said threads. No, it doesn't really get 'most spot on'. As I observed last time someone brought up Politifact, [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1523453&p=50545132#post50545132"]it's pretty biased.[/URL] They're far more critical of the right than they are the left, which isn't surprising, given that they're owned by the Tampa Bay Times-- a left-wing newspaper.[/QUOTE] You brought up two examples and were proven wrong on one of them. And you can always do your own fact-checking.

[QUOTE=KillRay;50620643]Nah not upset, I just find you and orgonot usually aggressively wrong, and very stubborn as well so its not interesting my opinions are top of the line in quality anyway[/QUOTE] Maybe actually point out where Monkah is wrong instead of acting like you're superior because of your opinion? Stop acting pretentious.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50620663]Politifact is incredibly biased against Trump to make it seem like he lies most of the time and oh my god I can't believe you're seriously using a John Oliver as video as argument.[/QUOTE] [quote]Trump claims MSNBC edited their released version of his interview with Chris Matthews in which Trump stumbled on abortion: “You really ought to hear the whole thing. I mean, this is a long convoluted question. This was a long discussion, and they just cut it out. And, frankly, it was extremely — it was really convoluted.” Nope; that was a lie. Trump lies that Wisconsin’s effective unemployment rate is 20%, saying, ""What? Is it 20 percent? Effective or regular? I mean just -- effective unemployment rate, 20 percent. Hey, this is out of the big book." According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, The U-3 official unemployment rate in Wisconsin was 4.6 percent in 2015; Wisconsin’s U-6 rate for 2015 was 8.3 percent. Trump said the 2016 federal omnibus spending bill "funds illegal immigrants coming in and through your border, right through Phoenix." Nope. The omnibus bill does not fund undocumented immigrants "coming in and through" the border; it funds the very agency tasked with keeping undocumented immigrants out, U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Trump brags that the Trump winery is the “largest winery on the East Coast.” "That’s not correct," said Michael Kaiser, spokesman for the National Association of American Wineries. Wine industry analysts calculate a winery’s size by the volume of wine produced. Trump Winery is not even the largest in Virginia. The top producers in the state are the Williamsburg Winery and Chateau Morrisette in Floyd County. In terms of sheer size in acreage, both the Wagner Vineyards Estate Winery in the Finger Lakes region of New York and Pindar Vineyards on New York’s Long Island are larger.[/quote] There are just a handful of the lies Donald Trump has uttered during his long string of campaigning against anybody who isn't his vote bank, to wit, the blue collar workers who have the same mindset that he looks for in his supporters. The reason his campaign blew up the way it did is because of all the media attention he got and how he spun any legitimate criticism into a direct attack on himself, his image, and his supporters. I'll be the first to agree that both anti and pro-Trump supporters are at fault, and have both done stupid things over the course of the primaries. I'll also agree that people are free to believe in whatever they want to. However, when confronted with verifiable fact that this man is bad for the well being of the country, has deliberately been inflammatory, and is hilariously uninformed to boot (who the hell denies that climate change is a problem in this day and age???), it should be a given to understand that no matter your leanings, he is only going to cause problems if elected as president of the USA.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;50620726]There are just a handful of the lies Donald Trump has uttered during his long string of campaigning against anybody who isn't his vote bank, to wit, the blue collar workers who have the same mindset that he looks for in his supporters. The reason his campaign blew up the way it did is because of all the media attention he got and how he spun any legitimate criticism into a direct attack on himself, his image, and his supporters. I'll be the first to agree that both anti and pro-Trump supporters are at fault, and have both done stupid things over the course of the primaries. I'll also agree that people are free to believe in whatever they want to. However, when confronted with verifiable fact that this man is bad for the well being of the country, has deliberately been inflammatory, and is hilariously uninformed to boot (who the hell denies that climate change is a problem in this day and age???), it should be a given to understand that no matter your leanings, he is only going to cause problems if elected as president of the USA.[/QUOTE] And this is the part where orgornot mysteriously vanishes, as he's done countless times in the past when faced with factual, verifiable evidence that he doesn't have a counter for. Unless, of course, what I just said makes him angry enough to stay. I'd love to see him continue to claim that Trump never lies.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50620531]I can see that happening. Bill probably said: "You have really sweet grandchildren. [URL="http://i.imgur.com/PieDL6L.jpg"]It would be a shame if something happened to them.[/URL]" [editline]30th June 2016[/editline] How any American can defend these crooks is beyond belief.[/QUOTE] Why am I not surprised to see orgonot repeating the fucking Bill Clinton Serial Killer conspiracy, a conspiracy that's around 10 times as guano-loco as the 9/11 truth movement

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50620770]Why am I not surprised to see orgonot repeating the fucking Bill Clinton Serial Killer conspiracy, a conspiracy that's around 10 times as guano-loco as the 9/11 truth movement[/QUOTE] Orgonot is a /pol/tard. His avatar's an open admission of it. Why would anyone be surprised?

[QUOTE=archangel125;50620774]Orgonot is a /pol/tard. His avatar's an open admission of it. Why would anyone be surprised?[/QUOTE] Why anyone gives him the time of day is beyond me.

[QUOTE=archangel125;50620629][url]http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/[/url] Politifact doesn't get all of those right, but it gets most spot on.[/QUOTE] PolitiFact is owned by the Tampa Bay Times, which has openly endorsed Clinton for President. I'm not denying that Trump is a liar... but using PolitiFact as a source makes it easier for people to dismiss those claims.

[QUOTE=archangel125;50620751]And this is the part where orgornot and monkah mysteriously vanish, as they've done countless times in the past when faced with factual, verifiable evidence that they don't have a counter for. Unless, of course, what I just said makes them angry enough to stay. I'd love to see orgornot continue to claim that Trump never lies.[/QUOTE] Damned if I do, damned if I don't. You totally got me. My superiors at TrumpShill HQ will be [I]so[/I] upset that you finally caught onto my master plan of going to bed at 2:52AM. [QUOTE=Zonesylvania;50620726]There are just a handful of the lies Donald Trump has uttered during his long string of campaigning against anybody who isn't his vote bank, to wit, the blue collar workers who have the same mindset that he looks for in his supporters. The reason his campaign blew up the way it did is because of all the media attention he got and how he spun any legitimate criticism into a direct attack on himself, his image, and his supporters. I'll be the first to agree that both anti and pro-Trump supporters are at fault, and have both done stupid things over the course of the primaries. I'll also agree that people are free to believe in whatever they want to. However, when confronted with verifiable fact that this man is bad for the well being of the country, has deliberately been inflammatory, and is hilariously uninformed to boot (who the hell denies that climate change is a problem in this day and age???), it should be a given to understand that no matter your leanings, he is only going to cause problems if elected as president of the USA.[/QUOTE] As someone who was heavily backing Rand Paul throughout the election, I'm going to go ahead and start off by saying that I don't think the dude's the next coming of Christ. Orgornot might disagree, I'm not sure. I'm just personally of the belief that Clinton is infinitely more corrupt and has no good intentions whatsoever. [QUOTE]how he spun any legitimate criticism into a direct attack on himself, his image, his supporters[/QUOTE] Which is, to be fair, [B]exactly what Clinton is doing[/B] on the other side. Between her trying to paint Sanders supporters as obnoxious sexists or her slamming Trump's border policies as racist in order to make his policies seem like an attack on her supporters rather than illegal immigrants. Clinton has used the "they hate us because we're [I]x![/I]" tactic on both Sanders and Trump, simply because they oppose her. [QUOTE]There are just a handful of the lies Donald Trump has uttered[/QUOTE] "He's lied!" would be a far more respectable argument if it didn't work with both candidates to a near infinite extent. If Sanders had won the nomination rather than Clinton, his honesty and/or factual correctness would be a fairly significant factor regarding my vote. Unfortunately, that's not the case, and it'd be simply incorrect to argue that Trump (or Clinton!) are devoid of lies. My only comment regarding this is that at least most of what people point out to be Trump's "lies" can be seen as half-truths, or-- at the very least, occasionally/potentially indeliberate. Clinton has kept lies for long periods of time and rarely admits to, or apologizes for them. [B]This is in comparison to Clinton, who has very deliberately lied about:[/B] [QUOTE]During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]In an interview, Clinton stated that she [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/10/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-says-she-and-bill-were-dead-broke/"]“came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.”[/URL][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Former Secretary of State Clinton claimed her infamous private e-mail server was set up in “accordance with the rules and the regulations in effect.” A federal judge disagreed, saying Clinton “violated government policy” when she used a private server to store official State Department messages.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]When discussing immigrant stories, Clinton asserted that “all my grandparents… came over here.” However, [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/apr/16/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-flubs-familys-immigration-history-/"]only one of her grandparents was an immigrant.[/URL][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]During the 2008 election, Clinton tried to push candidate Barack Obama as a pro-war candidate, stating that Obama [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/feb/27/hillary-clinton/et-tu-clinton/"]"basically threatened to bomb Pakistan."[/URL][/QUOTE] There are plenty of reasonable avenues to take against a Trump presidency, but it's indisputable that Clinton is far more of a liar and an undoubtedly deliberate one when we add up the dice. Clinton has shown to be a natural liar, as well as having been involved in mathematically likely [URL="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02"]rigged votes[/URL] against Sanders, and of course, has now been seen involved in [URL="http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/loretta-lynch-bill-clinton-meet-privately-in-phoenix"]incredibly suspicous activity.[/URL]

Ah, but the whole point I was making, even viewing my very first post in this thread, is that anyone who claims that Trump doesn't lie is misinformed or an idiot. I hereby rest my case. Thanks for the help, Monkah. I mean that sincerely. Of course Hillary lies. I've been saying time and time again - and check my post history if you don't believe me - that they're both absolutely shitty choices and that I don't envy Americans this election. What I've also said is that Trump's dangerous, unstable, immature, and quite obviously the wrong choice if one was forced to choose between two evils. If you disagree, that's fine, that's an opinion I can respect. In fact, I admit that I was wrong in lumping you in with orgornot, who has completely lost touch with reality. I'm going to edit my offending post now to reflect that, and let the version you quoted stand as proof of my mistake. I will not stand by, however, and let /pol/tards like Orgornot claim that Trump doesn't lie, is not corrupt, or somehow has more integrity than his opponent. Misinformation, and deliberate misinformation to boot, I cannot abide.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;50620726]There are just a handful of the lies Donald Trump has uttered during his long string of campaigning against anybody who isn't his vote bank, to wit, the blue collar workers who have the same mindset that he looks for in his supporters. The reason his campaign blew up the way it did is because of all the media attention he got and how he spun any legitimate criticism into a direct attack on himself, his image, and his supporters. I'll be the first to agree that both anti and pro-Trump supporters are at fault, and have both done stupid things over the course of the primaries. I'll also agree that people are free to believe in whatever they want to. However, when confronted with verifiable fact that this man is bad for the well being of the country, has deliberately been inflammatory, and is hilariously uninformed to boot (who the hell denies that climate change is a problem in this day and age???), it should be a given to understand that no matter your leanings, he is only going to cause problems if elected as president of the USA.[/QUOTE] I would prefer an empty Oval Office to having either candidate in it, but boil it down: One of them is a wild, crazy, uninformed baffoon [i]and one of them is under investigation by the FBI on serious federal felonies[/i]. Do you want a potential Leavenworth resident in control of a couple thousand nukes? The congressional cockblock will severely limit the damage Trump could do, anyway. So, as much as I don't want him in the office, he's the better choice of the two we got this year. [editline]30th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=archangel125;50620864]Ah, but the whole point I was making, even viewing my very first post in this thread, is that anyone who claims that Trump doesn't lie is misinformed or an idiot. I hereby rest my case. Thanks for the help, Monkah. I mean that sincerely. Of course Hillary lies. I've been saying time and time again - and check my post history if you don't believe me - that they're both absolutely shitty choices and that I don't envy Americans this election. What I've also said is that Trump's dangerous, unstable, immature, and quite obviously the wrong choice if one was forced to choose between two evils. If you disagree, that's fine, that's an opinion I can respect. In fact, I admit that I was wrong in lumping you in with orgornot, who has completely lost touch with reality. I'm going to edit my offending post now to reflect that, and let the version you quoted stand as proof of my mistake. I will not stand by, however, and let /pol/tards like Orgornot claim that Trump doesn't lie, is not corrupt, or somehow has more integrity than his opponent. Misinformation, and deliberate misinformation to boot, I cannot abide.[/QUOTE] You've got to factor in the congressional cockblock that's made it so hard for the last 8 years to see any significant progress. Hilary will be better at breakign through it. Congress will defy Trump's every move, effectively minimizing the damage he can do. Clinton...not so much. She's being investigated for crimes that you or I would be locked up and forgotten about by now, she'd love nothing more than to gut the second amendment, and she can work with Congress in a way that gets the bad things she wants done done. I'd rather have an empty office than have either Trump or Hilary in it, but if I had to choose, it'd be Trump.

[QUOTE=TestECull;50620910]I would prefer an empty Oval Office to having either candidate in it, but boil it down: One of them is a wild, crazy, uninformed baffoon [i]and one of them is under investigation by the FBI on serious federal felonies[/i]. Do you want a potential Leavenworth resident in control of a couple thousand nukes? The congressional cockblock will severely limit the damage Trump could do, anyway. So, as much as I don't want him in the office, he's the better choice of the two we got this year.[/QUOTE] My reasoning is different. I'd rather have a corrupt criminal in office than one who would think nothing of starting another war as bad as Iraq, of advocating war crimes, and who seems to want to turn the USA into an apartheid regime.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50620531][URL="http://i.imgur.com/PieDL6L.jpg"]It would be a shame if something happened to them.[/URL][/QUOTE] Heard they all died by [URL="http://i.imgur.com/mDy3PnZ.jpg"]chemtrails![/URL]

[QUOTE=TestECull;50620910]I would prefer an empty Oval Office to having either candidate in it, but boil it down: One of them is a wild, crazy, uninformed baffoon [i]and one of them is under investigation by the FBI on serious federal felonies[/i]. Do you want a potential Leavenworth resident in control of a couple thousand nukes? The congressional cockblock will severely limit the damage Trump could do, anyway. So, as much as I don't want him in the office, he's the better choice of the two we got this year. [editline]30th June 2016[/editline] You've got to factor in the congressional cockblock that's made it so hard for the last 8 years to see any significant progress. Hilary will be better at breakign through it. Congress will defy Trump's every move, effectively minimizing the damage he can do. Clinton...not so much. She's being investigated for crimes that you or I would be locked up and forgotten about by now, she'd love nothing more than to gut the second amendment, and she can work with Congress in a way that gets the bad things she wants done done. I'd rather have an empty office than have either Trump or Hilary in it, but if I had to choose, it'd be Trump.[/QUOTE] That's a bit of a gamble regardless. To assume that he's going to be stonewalled like that. Someone with attitudes as extreme as Donald Trump's is extremely dangerous because his presidency would legitimize such attitudes in society at large. As history has taught us.

So time after time we get articles about the crooked things Hillary has done. The e-mails, Libya, Benghazi, Bosnia, many other things. It's important to shed light on these issues to make sure the public makes an informed decision. [QUOTE=Zonesylvania;50620726]Trump brags that the Trump winery is the “largest winery on the East Coast.” "That’s not correct,"[/QUOTE] Do you really think all these scandals compare to "b-but Trump said he has the biggest winery and its not the biggest!!!" This article just further proves the Clintons are hiding skeletons in their closet.