[quote]President Donald Trump floated putting solar panels on his planned Mexican border wall in a meeting with legislative leaders Tuesday afternoon, according to White House and Capitol Hill officials.
It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic, but he presented the panels as a way to fund the wall, which is expected to cost billions of dollars, according to three people familiar with the conversation.
He didn't express certainty that it would happen — but that he'd heard it as a possible idea and wanted to see what others thought, said a senior official familiar with the White House meeting.
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[url]http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/06/trump-wall-solar-panels-mexico-239204[/url]
[url]http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/trump-reportedly-floats-putting-solar-panels-on-his-border-wall.html[/url]
Oh boys, those darn liberals are still complaining about the wall! What can we do? Hmm... what do liberals really like? Well, they have been bitching about the Paris thing for days now, what if we... we... we put solar panels on it? They Love them eco-friendly things so they should then love the wall!
Thirteenth-dimensional tiddlywinks, or just the most confused/confusing man on the planet? Doctors hate him!
When I saw the headline I thought this was going to be an attempted make-up strategy for the Paris Agreement. Then I saw he floated it as a way to pay for the wall, which is strange considering that
(a) the Mexicans are going to pay for it
(b) climate change is an expensive hoax, but renewable energy is profitable?
I have no idea what is going on any more :v:
I don't see how it would be a good idea to put solar panels on a wall versus a field, the ground, or a roof. Also, considering the wall is not going to be built from solar panels, all that this would really do is increase the cost with sub-optimal return from the solar panels.
[QUOTE]It was unclear why Trump brought up the topic[/QUOTE]
I think it's what's known as "grasping at straws"
It seems that most of his ideas are about that damn wall...
I mean, if he's going to waste money on the wall then at least some useful investment in solar tech would come of it.
Damn that's smart, if only technically possible.
It's not smart at all. It's terribly inefficient. You're better off building a few fields of panels next to the wall.
[QUOTE=Knurr;52322700]Damn that's smart, if only technically possible.[/QUOTE]
Not that smart. They'll be stolen or once defective, never replaced
[QUOTE=Knurr;52322700]Damn that's smart, if only technically possible.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, they will be put on the monument of retard instead of something practical
Trump announces the wall is cancelled, instead he's going to build the world's largest solar field
Spanning the length of the border :v:
Clearly, Trump is withdrawing from the Paris agreement for the same reasons Nicaragua never signed. It's too soft! He wants [I]more[/I] green energy than what Paris dictates, and he's going to build a wall to keep climate change out!
In technical terms and hypothetically, just how much surface area could The Wall(tm) provide for solar panels?
I've heard oft-quoted numbers that 1% of the UK being dedicated to wind energy would provide power for the whole grid.
Speculatively, just how much of the US power needs could be generated by this idea?
That should have been a joke hypothetical idea about what Trump would offer to appease the angry liberals. Actual solar freakin' border walls. If you're gonna do solar panels just put them fucking anywhere, there is no lack of space. The wall will be bullshit regardless.
But, I mean, if he wants to do solar panels that's great, even if it is just because he thinks it will make people like his wall.
[QUOTE=Hick2;52322757]In technical terms and hypothetically, just how much surface area could The Wall(tm) provide for solar panels?[/QUOTE]
The US-Mexico border is 3.201 kilometres long, or 3.201.000 meters. The border wall's claimed height changes all the time, but seems to most frequently be 30 feet, or 10 meters roughly. 3.201.000 * 10 is 32.010.000. 32 million square meters. One square meter of solar panel gives off one kWh a day, according to [URL="http://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/how-much-electricity-can-i-generate-solar-panels"]this[/URL] random site I googled my way to. So, that gives us 32 million kWh output a day, if you cover the entire side of the wall in solar panels.
Is it going to come out that Trump has the early stages of alzheimer's or what? The guy flip flops, he rambles, he's putting together things that have no real business being together now...
He actually has about half the symptoms
Wall's no good, people hate that I pulled out of the agreement, OH I KNOW
Shouldn't we be asking Mexico want they want? Weren't they the ones paying for it?
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;52322797]Shouldn't we be asking Mexico want they want? Weren't they the ones paying for it?[/QUOTE]
This is another way of making them pay. It's always sunny in Mexico. The US will steal their sunshine to make money, until Mexico's sunlight resources are depleted and they have to resort to renewable energy such as fracking and coaling.
[QUOTE=Riller;52322781]The US-Mexico border is 3.201 kilometres long, or 3.201.000 meters. The border wall's claimed height changes all the time, but seems to most frequently be 30 feet, or 10 meters roughly. 3.201.000 * 10 is 32.010.000. 32 million square meters. One square meter of solar panel gives off one kWh a day, according to [URL="http://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/how-much-electricity-can-i-generate-solar-panels"]this[/URL] random site I googled my way to. So, that gives us 32 million kWh output a day, if you cover the entire side of the wall in solar panels.[/QUOTE]
So assuming 100% efficiency everyday, which is impossible, and 100% coverage. That could apparently cover the US yearly power demand almost 3 times over.
US Yearly Power demand is 3.913 billion kWh.
The above hypothetical would provide 11.68 billion kWh per year.
So if we went with a more modest estimate of panel placement and coverage, it could still hypothetically put a pretty big dent in the reliance on other power generation.
[QUOTE=Riller;52322781]The US-Mexico border is 3.201 kilometres long, or 3.201.000 meters. The border wall's claimed height changes all the time, but seems to most frequently be 30 feet, or 10 meters roughly. 3.201.000 * 10 is 32.010.000. 32 million square meters. One square meter of solar panel gives off one kWh a day, according to [URL="http://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/how-much-electricity-can-i-generate-solar-panels"]this[/URL] random site I googled my way to. So, that gives us 32 million kWh output a day, if you cover the entire side of the wall in solar panels.[/QUOTE]
But covering the side would be horribly inefficient. You would have to put them on top of the wall so they can be angled toward the sun throughout the day. Assuming the wall is taller than it is wide, it would provide less than 0 space for solar panels because it will shade the perfectly available ground the panels could have been on.
[editline]7th June 2017[/editline]
I wish people would stop falling for the "let's put solar panels on this other thing" and just put them on the fucking or on rooftops.
[img]http://cdn-image.travelandleisure.com/sites/default/files/styles/tnl_redesign_article_landing_page/public/201109-w-drives-route-66.jpg?itok=yb25ni3L[/img]
Just put 'em here, god damnit. And no, I don't mean on the fucking road.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;52322815]But covering the side would be horribly inefficient. You would have to put them on top of the wall so they can be angled toward the sun throughout the day. Assuming the wall is taller than it is wide, it would provide less than 0 space for solar panels because it will shade the perfectly available ground the panels could have been on.[/QUOTE]
It's stupid, yes; which is why I assumed it was what Trump meant.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;52322815]But covering the side would be horribly inefficient. You would have to put them on top of the wall so they can be angled toward the sun throughout the day. Assuming the wall is taller than it is wide, it would provide less than 0 space for solar panels because it will shade the perfectly available ground the panels could have been on.[/QUOTE]
It is just a piece of napkin maths. Plausibility aside it's just a little fun to see the ball park figures.
Real life beats comedy at this point, pluss the whole Best Korea calling Trump selfish over the climate deal.
Build taco bells all across the wall so that the mexicans will go to the tacobells for a quick bite and when they do SNATCH we got em
that's realistic and not at all racist
i bet the chucklefuck would put them on the side of the wall too, so 60% of the time half of them are covered in shade/not getting direct sunlight
[QUOTE=TheTalon;52322784]Is it going to come out that Trump has the early stages of alzheimer's or what? The guy flip flops, he rambles, he's putting together things that have no real business being together now...
He actually has about half the symptoms
Wall's no good, people hate that I pulled out of the agreement, OH I KNOW[/QUOTE]
I'm good friends with a PHD specializing in neurological disorders. Specifically, she works with the elderly of dementia and Alzheimers. I asked her this same question, and she said that it's a topic of serious discussion among doctors in her field. Trump exhibits several key symptoms of potentially suffering from a serious neurological disorder, but lacks some other telltale signs. There is good cause, she believes, to question his competency and health, but states that it's just not possible to diagnose him with anything without a one on one interview and a few tests.
At this rate, the wall will pay for itself :v:
Fuck Trump he hates the environment!
Trump suggests something to try to satisfy the left.
Fuck Trump he is just trying to make us happy!
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