• Terrorist attack in Kharkiv, Ukraine during peace march: 3 confirmed dead
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[URL="http://uatoday.tv/news/kharkiv-deadly-terror-attack-at-least-three-killed-at-euromaidan-anniversary-peace-march-411000.html"]http://uatoday.tv/news/kharkiv-deadly-terror-attack-at-least-three-killed-at-euromaidan-anniversary-peace-march-411000.html[/URL] [QUOTE]An explosion at a pro-Ukrainian rally in the city of Kharkiv has left at least three people dead and scores more injured. Police says the cause of the explosion has not yet been established. The explosive was detonated as hundreds of people marched in Ukraine's second most populated city, after which a service and prayers were due to be held to commemorate the victims of last year's Euromaidan revolution.[/QUOTE] Video: [video=youtube;2aAXoxfqV-0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aAXoxfqV-0[/video]
Targeting a peaceful protest is the lowest of the low.
They'll blame Russia after some time, trust me
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190594]They'll blame Russia after some time, trust me[/QUOTE] Just like Russia is blaming "ukranian nationalists" for this amirite?
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190594]They'll blame Russia after some time, trust me[/QUOTE] And they're completely right to do so? How hard it is to comprehend that there wouldn't be an Ukrainian crisis if the Russians didn't meddle with them?
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190594]They'll blame Russia after some time, trust me[/QUOTE] It's more than likely some rogue separatists though. Armed by Russians.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47190609]And they're completely right to do so? How hard it is to comprehend that there wouldn't be an Ukrainian crisis if the Russians didn't meddle with them?[/QUOTE] Oh yes, because Maidan was made by Putin, and not some guys opposing Yanukovich.... But seriously - it's stupid to claim everything on one entity, without even trying to investigate. Why not AlQuaeda, or ISIS? [editline]22nd February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=joshuadim;47190607]Just like Russia is blaming "ukranian nationalists" for this amirite?[/QUOTE] They are known to cause problems to even current government, as they are being forced to obey it. So I wouldn't deny this.
What if this was an attack by ISIS and we're all too busy blaming Russia and Ukraine.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190633]Oh yes, because Maidan was made by Putin, and not some guys opposing Yanukovich.... But seriously - it's stupid to claim everything on one entity, without even trying to investigate. Why not AlQuaeda, or ISIS?[/QUOTE] Typical Russian response, always being an apologist for your great tsar putin.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190633]Oh yes, because Maidan was made by Putin, and not some guys opposing Yanukovich.... But seriously - it's stupid to claim everything on one entity, without even trying to investigate. Why not AlQuaeda, or ISIS?[/QUOTE] key difference here is that the maidan was a peaceful protest which yanukovych himself turned into a revolution by murdering protesters on the streets, it was a people's revolution. then russia responded to that by invading and annexing a part of a sovereign nation and orchestrating/funding a revolution with the purpose of destabilizing ukraine, just like they did with moldova and georgia when they stepped out of line.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190633]Oh yes, because Maidan was made by Putin, and not some guys opposing Yanukovich.... But seriously - it's stupid to claim everything on one entity, without even trying to investigate. Why not AlQuaeda, or ISIS?[/QUOTE] Yanukovich? You mean the man that authorized Ukrainian forces to murder their own people for opposing a pro-Russian politician? The former President that now lives in Russia under protection of the Russian government? Hmm...
[QUOTE=joshuadim;47190647]Typical Russian response, always being an apologist for your great tsar putin.[/QUOTE] Typical SH dumbass, for any sign of doubt - blame in Putin cocksucking. If you can't say something nice - say nothing. Just an advice. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("flaming" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190670]Typical SH dumbass, for any sign of doubt - blame in Putin cocksucking. If you can't say something nice - say nothing. Just an advice.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]If you can't say something nice - say nothing[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]dumbass[/QUOTE] A rather contradicting post but whatever floats your boat.
[QUOTE=Megadave;47190642]What if this was an attack by ISIS and we're all too busy blaming Russia and Ukraine.[/QUOTE] What would ISIS gain from that at all? They want attention, if everyone is distracted by Russia there's no point in doing that.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190670]Typical SH dumbass, for any sign of doubt - blame in Putin cocksucking. If you can't say something nice - say nothing. Just an advice.[/QUOTE] How about you actually open your eyes you dimwit and see that your country is blatantly lying about involvement in Ukraine and the ukranian people. Your news stations are calling Ukrainians fascists for gods sake [highlight](User was banned for this post ("flaming" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47190667]Yanukovich? You mean the man that authorized Ukrainian forces to murder their own people for opposing a pro-Russian politician? The former President that now lives in Russia under protection of the Russian government? Hmm...[/QUOTE] I am talking about "theory" that Maidan was made by Putin so he could annex Ukraine whole, but was out rocked by people.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190690]I am talking about "theory" that Maidan was made by Putin so he could annex Ukraine whole, but was out rocked by people.[/QUOTE] No one else but you made the theory Putin started the Maidan. Putin started the Ukrainian CRISIS, this WAR, not the EUROMAIDAN, genius.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190690]I am talking about "theory" that Maidan was made by Putin so he could annex Ukraine whole, but was out rocked by people.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ you people really are that fucking delusional and blind
[QUOTE=joshuadim;47190687]How about you actually open your eyes you dimwit and see that your country is blatantly lying about involvement in Ukraine and the ukranian people. Your news stations are calling Ukrainians fascists for gods sake[/QUOTE] Oh wow, I never knew about this! Thanks for opening my eyes, oh saint! Also - you never watched them, only heard about.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;47190683]What would ISIS gain from that at all? They want attention, if everyone is distracted by Russia there's no point in doing that.[/QUOTE] ISIS doesn't seem to abide by the rules of Logic, so to rule it out completely would be blind Mccarthyism.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190708]Oh wow, I never knew about this! Thanks for opening my eyes, oh saint! Also - you never watched them, only heard about.[/QUOTE] Lmao, I can't even take you seriously anymore
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190670]Typical SH dumbass, for any sign of doubt - blame in Putin cocksucking. If you can't say something nice - say nothing. Just an advice.[/QUOTE] Because you are a Putin cocksucker and there's absolutely nothing nice to say about you, guess what Russia supplies and sends troops to the terrorists and you're surprised Russia is going to be blamed for these deaths? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("flaming" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Megadave;47190709]ISIS doesn't seem to abide by the rules of Logic, so to rule it out completely would be blind Mccarthyism.[/QUOTE] ISIS only targets the US, NATO and NATO-affiliated countries, Ukraine has literally barely any support from the West and its "friends", there's no reason to attack Ukraine, they gain nothing from it.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47190695]No one else but you made the theory Putin started the Maidan. Putin started the Ukrainian CRISIS, this WAR, not the EUROMAIDAN, genius.[/QUOTE] The whole crisis actually began after Yanukovich's fleeing, as Ukraine was left without government, and began collapsing, after stabilizing a little by Poroshenko and company.
i mean you could make the argument that the maidan didn't represent the will of the eastern ukrainians but that still doesn't justify anything the russians have done in fact, when this all got started the DPR was a laughable force and literally controlled a single administration building, they were little more than a bunch of "sovereign citizen" style nutjobs with very little popular support - until the russian weapons started flowing.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190727]The whole crisis actually began after Yanukovich's fleeing, as Ukraine was left without government, and began collapsing, after stabilizing a little by Poroshenko and company.[/QUOTE] The crisis began when Crimea was occupied and Russians pushed for an Eastern rebellion.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190708]Oh wow, I never knew about this! Thanks for opening my eyes, oh saint! Also - you never watched them, only heard about.[/QUOTE] This is elementary school level of discussion
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47190724]ISIS only targets the US, NATO and NATO-affiliated countries, Ukraine has literally barely any support from the West and its "friends", there's no reason to attack Ukraine, they gain nothing from it.[/QUOTE] That makes sense, but we need to stop blaming either side. Blaming only distorts the truth, then we definitely won't get the truth.
Goddamn these Russians are full of RT propoganda
clearly an attempt to fuel ethnic tensions and create panic
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