Huge Brazil protests demand impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff - Polidicks

[img]http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/625/media/images/81664000/jpg/_81664642_026336720-1.jpg[/img] [url]http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-31899507[/url] [quote]More than a million Brazilians have joined demonstrations against President Dilma Rousseff, with many asking for her impeachment. The protesters say the president must have known about a corruption scandal in the state oil firm, Petrobras. The political opposition say much of the alleged bribery took place when she was head of the company. But Ms Rousseff has been exonerated in an investigation by the attorney general and denies involvement. Most of the politicians accused of taking bribes in a kickback scheme come from the governing coalition.[/quote]

There's not a single person who I know that went in there knowing what they are protesting about.

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;47329785]There's not a single person who I know that went in there knowing what they are protesting about.[/QUOTE] People never do.

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;47329785]There's not a single person who I know that went in there knowing what they are protesting about.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if that held true for every big protest.

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;47329785]There's not a single person who I know that went in there knowing what they are protesting about.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ragekipz;47329801]People never do.[/QUOTE] You heard it here, folks. Protesters just protest for no reason!

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;47330038]You heard it here, folks. Protesters just protest for no reason![/QUOTE] They do actually. Some of them aren't happy with the current governors but they don't really know why. Some people want impeachment because they think the second most voted candidate from last election will take the presidency while it's not how this whole thing works.

Imo, the governor of my state (Paraná) is who really deserves to go away. I know a lot of people who are in their last year of college but can't graduate because he's just not giving funds to schools. And it's not only in a several education places. It's nearly everywhere in the state. Almost every public school or university is STILL not receiving students as of now.

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;47330038]You heard it here, folks. Protesters just protest for no reason![/QUOTE] Oh do tell about your times here with the protesters. Most people don't know what the fuck they're protesting about, they just have some vague notion that it's about Dilma and Petrobras, but I doubt they know what the fuck is going on with either.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47330926]Oh do tell about your times here with the protesters. Most people don't know what the fuck they're protesting about, they just have some vague notion that it's about Dilma and Petrobras, but I doubt they know what the fuck is going on with either.[/QUOTE] You probably shouldn't dismiss a protest that large simply because you think your snob ass is more qualified than the million people who got out on the street that day.

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;47330038]You heard it here, folks. Protesters just protest for no reason![/QUOTE] thing is, most brazilians don't know SHIT about the politics on our own country(or even as whole), its not a joke, its arguably the most glaring issue regarding politics in brazil, the level of both disinformation and ignorance is horrifying, this is how you have idiots defending/asking for FASCISM in some protests lol(and also dictatorship), its shocking how little the average brazilian knows about politics in general. for instance são paulo re-elected the idiotic/corrupt governor who is responsible for ignoring the repeated warnings 12 years ago about the water crisis that is currently affecting said state. our media is making it look like party in charge(PT) is the only corrupt party in the nation, when PSDB and PMDB are even more corrupt and are involved in the whole petrobras scandal too, the level of hatred towards PT is actually frightening, considering that its a simple moderate center-left government at best. people(mostly middle-class idiots) act like they we're going to become cuba or venezuela 2.0 (funny/sad thing is that many honestly believe that). and no, the crisis is nowhere as bad as when PSDB was in power and we ended up as the second place in unemployment on the PLANET.

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;47332638]That's an incredible overgeneralization, the only people asking for the military regime to come back is a [B]ridiculously stupid minority[/B], for all cult of personality, damage control, centralized militancies, organisations, strong party nationalism and outright lies that the allied party tries to bring to the population makes them seem like the facist party Ayy this again, I'm not defending him (PSDB is shit) but everyone in the chain of power, not only him, is to blame for that, even if he did something I doubt that it would be enough to combat the drought, mother nature is the major player, even Minas that's considered the water box of the southeast suffered and specially Rio and ES which are coastal states This means we have no right to protest guys!!![/QUOTE] its not a generalization, its pretty much how it is and i never said we don't have right to protest, i was only pointing the nature and context of said protest and protesters.

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;47329785]There's not a single person who I know that went in there knowing what they are protesting about.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ragekipz;47330926]Most people don't know what the fuck they're protesting about[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Wizards Court;47331857]thing is, most brazilians don't know SHIT about the politics on our own country(or even as whole) words words words[/QUOTE] why do they have to know [I]exactly[/I] what they're protesting for? people are clearly massively upset on a huge scale. isn't that reason enough? does every protest have to have a manifesto of clear cut aims and demands in order to exist? is that what a state-recognised, middle-class protest has to be? that's preposterous. of course most people protesting are probably under or uneducated people - they are the country's most disenfranchised people. demanding that they have to have a deep understanding of the political system to warrant the [I]right[/I] to be upset and to protest is incredible snobbery who cares whether other political parties are worse than the one in power? that doesn't matter. they're uspet now, they'll be upset when another asshole group takes power. if anything, your claims that so many other parties are [I]even worse[/I] than the current government is all the more reason to protest - people want change, not to resign to the fact that their already terrible situation could possibly be even worse. that's all the more reason to protest and have your voice heard and whether that voice is united and educated is irrelevant. there might be communists and fascists protesting alongside each other there and that's absolutely fine - to voice your disfranchisement and upset and dissatisfaction doesn't require a clearly unified manifesto no surprise that there are brazilians on here, sat comfortably at their computer, saying there's nothing to complain about

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;47333974]why do they have to know [I]exactly[/I] what they're protesting for? people are clearly massively upset on a huge scale. isn't that reason enough? does every protest have to have a manifesto of clear cut aims and demands in order to exist? is that what a state-recognised, middle-class protest has to be? that's preposterous. of course most people protesting are probably under or uneducated people - they are the country's most disenfranchised people. demanding that they have to have a deep understanding of the political system to warrant the [I]right[/I] to be upset and to protest is incredible snobbery who cares whether other political parties are worse than the one in power? that doesn't matter. they're uspet now, they'll be upset when another asshole group takes power. if anything, your claims that so many other parties are [I]even worse[/I] than the current government is all the more reason to protest - people want change, not to resign to the fact that their already terrible situation could possibly be even worse. that's all the more reason to protest and have your voice heard and whether that voice is united and educated is irrelevant. there might be communists and fascists protesting alongside each other there and that's absolutely fine - to voice your disfranchisement and upset and dissatisfaction doesn't require a clearly unified manifesto no surprise that there are brazilians on here, sat comfortably at their computer, saying there's nothing to complain about[/QUOTE] sorry but im gonna have to disagree, theres nothing wrong with supporting a cause you think is good even if you dont have full understanding of the situation, but recently (maybe people want to become more active in politics after the huge protests we had in 2014, who knows) blaming the party in power for literally everything wrong with the country has become sort of a fad, so really im not sure if the protests are gonna make people more picky when it comes to candidates or if everyones going to forget about the actual problems once the opposition is in power

PT is corrupt as hell and was the major recipient in the biggest robbery this country (or any country really) has suffered. Dilma lied through her entire corruption funded campaign. Economy is going down the drain. There are people dellusional enough to deny that, but of course the only source of truth for them is government propaganda.

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;47329785]There's not a single person who I know that went in there knowing what they are protesting about.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ragekipz;47329801]People never do.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TestECull;47329867]I wouldn't be surprised if that held true for every big protest.[/QUOTE] The elitist armchair politician circle jerk is strong in this thread.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47330926]Oh do tell about your times here with the protesters. Most people don't know what the fuck they're protesting about, they just have some vague notion that it's about Dilma and Petrobras, but I doubt they know what the fuck is going on with either.[/QUOTE] Dilma was in charge of the construction firm that's being investigated for corruption. She was in charge during critical years where this corruption is said to have been happening. She was "cleared" of any involvment. I think that's more than a little bit fishy and I'm sure other people in your own country know this as well But of course, you're special, unique, and above everyone else as you have done your best to display here.