• Massive survey reveals Muslim world's attitudes towards sharia law, religious freedom, extremism, sc
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[url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/most-muslims-want-sharia-law-split-interpretation-study-200346461.html[/url] [quote]The comprehensive Pew Research Center survey conducted between 2008 and 2012 focused on 38,000 people in 39 countries drawn from a global Muslim community of 2.2 billion people. From 12 percent in Turkey, support for sharia as official national law stood at 56 percent in Tunisia, 71 percent in Nigeria, 72 percent in Indonesia, 74 percent in Egypt and 99 percent in Afghanistan. However, in most countries surveyed, there was less support for severe punishments, such as cutting off the hands of thieves or executing people who convert from Islam to another faith. A majority of Muslims are also in favor of freedom of religion, even while backing sharia. In most countries, a majority of Muslims said a wife must obey her husband, although a majority also said a woman should decide whether or not to wear a veil. An overwhelming majority viewed prostitution, homosexuality, suicide or alcohol consumption as immoral but there are sharp differences on issues such as polygamy. A strong majority surveyed said so-called honor killings could never be justified. The only exceptions came in Afghanistan and Iraq, where majorities condoned executions of women deemed to have shamed their families by engaging in premarital sex or adultery.[/quote] There is an absolute shit-ton of interesting data here, they asked a lot of questions in a lot of different countries. [B][url=http://www.pewforum.org/Muslim/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-exec.aspx]Here's the report[/url][/B] Here's an infographic showing some highlights, open it in a new tab so you can actually read it :~) [t]http://imgkk.com/i/jjl0.png[/t]
[QUOTE=smurfy;40489849][url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/most-muslims-want-sharia-law-split-interpretation-study-200346461.html[/url] There is an absolute shit-ton of interesting data here, they asked a lot of questions in a lot of different countries. [B][url=http://www.pewforum.org/Muslim/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-exec.aspx]Here's the report[/url][/B] Here's an infographic showing some highlights, open it in a new tab so you can actually read it :~) [t]http://imgkk.com/i/jjl0.png[/t][/QUOTE] the fact that 19% of US Muslims in the survey think suicide bombing is okay is sort of scary. (as in, not the "never" choice) is that really accurate? Does roughly 1 in 5 Muslims in America think that suicide attacks against civilians are an option?
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40489881]the fact that 19% of US Muslims in the survey think suicide bombing is okay is sort of scary. (as in, not the "never" choice) is that really accurate? Does roughly 1 in 5 Muslims in America think that suicide attacks against civilians are an option?[/QUOTE] No. 1 in 5.26315789474 Muslims think suicide is an option
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40489881]the fact that 19% of US Muslims in the survey think suicide bombing is okay is sort of scary. (as in, not the "never" choice) is that really accurate? Does roughly 1 in 5 Muslims in America think that suicide attacks against civilians are an option?[/QUOTE] [del]They've worded it really vaguely, they said 'suicide bombings or other violence' but it doesn't elaborate for what reason. Americans would likely assume civilian casualties as a result of drone strikes, not suicide bombing.[/del] Actually it says 'in the name of Islam' - what
I wonder how different the statistics would be if they had surveyed Muslims in more Western countries... I somehow doubt the median of homophobes would be 90% if they'd surveyed Western and Central European Muslims.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40489881]the fact that 19% of US Muslims in the survey think suicide bombing is okay is sort of scary. (as in, not the "never" choice) is that really accurate? Does roughly 1 in 5 Muslims in America think that suicide attacks against civilians are an option?[/QUOTE] You should also ask what percentage of other religions think the same thing. How many Christians think violence against civilians is justified? How many Buddhists, Hindus, etc.?
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;40490229]You should also ask what percentage of other religions think the same thing. How many Christians think violence against civilians is justified? How many Buddhists, Hindus, etc.?[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.gallup.com/poll/148763/muslim-americans-no-justification-violence.aspx]Gallup poll on that here[/url] [img]http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/njiym7x7nkuh2cnawawxka.gif[/img] Although in this it doesn't ask 'in the name of [I]x[/I] religion'
[QUOTE=butt2089;40490276][url=http://www.gallup.com/poll/148763/muslim-americans-no-justification-violence.aspx]Gallup poll on that here[/url] [img]http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/njiym7x7nkuh2cnawawxka.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Holy shit, Christians are some dangerous motherfuckers. We should deport them and confiscate their Christianic ray guns
Interesting, but also disturbing at the same time, particularly when it comes to acceptance of homosexuals and women obeying their husbands at all times. Those percentages are quite high.
[QUOTE=someguywithagun;40490424]Interesting, but also disturbing at the same time, particularly when it comes to acceptance of homosexuals and women obeying their husbands at all times. Those percentages are quite high.[/QUOTE] I'm sure its very similar with all Abrahamic religions.
[QUOTE=someguywithagun;40490424]Interesting, but also disturbing at the same time, particularly when it comes to acceptance of homosexuals and women obeying their husbands at all times. Those percentages are quite high.[/QUOTE] 19% of u.s. muslims think violence against civilians can sometimes be justified not sure if that's the muslim or the american in them talking
There are some interesting inferences to be drawn from that chart. One, unemployment is a big concern. People, no matter their background, ultimately want to be able to support themselves and their families. Concentrating large amounts of wealth in few hands while large portions of a population live in poverty leads to violence, who knew? People who live in lands that seem to be in a state of perpetual war(ie Afghanistan) tend to have more extreme views, who would have guessed? Good thing we here in the US aren't seeing either of those problems...
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40490478]I'm sure its very similar with all Abrahamic religions.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers were similar across religions, I simply didn't expect them to be as high as they are.
[QUOTE=butt2089;40490276][url=http://www.gallup.com/poll/148763/muslim-americans-no-justification-violence.aspx]Gallup poll on that here[/url] [img]http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/njiym7x7nkuh2cnawawxka.gif[/img] Although in this it doesn't ask 'in the name of [I]x[/I] religion'[/QUOTE] of course it's going to be that way, what a silly poll. Our [b]military[/b] kills their civilians, their civilians kill our civilians. Still doesn't make it right. Why should I get being blown up since our military/foreign affairs suck? my point is there should be 0% for attacking civilians regardless of who you are, no exceptions.
is 38.000 in a survey really "massive"? i thought it would be like 200.000+ or something.
Some of the results are disturbing, but on the whole it shows that there are plenty of mostly level headed muslims out there as most people would agree.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;40493015]is 38.000 in a survey really "massive"? i thought it would be like 200.000+ or something.[/QUOTE] It is pretty massive when it comes to sample size.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40490803]of course it's going to be that way, what a silly poll. Our [b]military[/b] kills their civilians, their civilians kill our civilians. Still doesn't make it right. Why should I get being blown up since our military/foreign affairs suck? my point is there should be 0% for attacking civilians regardless of who you are, no exceptions.[/QUOTE] [i]their[/i] civillians? really?
[QUOTE=Elspin;40493114]Some of the results are disturbing, but on the whole it shows that there are plenty of mostly level headed muslims out there as most people would agree.[/QUOTE] women would disagree, in fact islam main issue is pretty much their treatment of women, there is also the fact that i didn't see mentioned in this survey, that arabs as a whole tend be awfully racist against blacks and the fact the muslim nations seem awfully ok with slavery(see Qatar, saudi arabia, etc), its kinda sad when you think about the several of the nations that have this kinda of problems at its worst, are US allies... if muslims on the whole were to change their behavior(especially how they treat women) i'm pretty sure it would much harder for them to be painted as the evil boogeyman like western media loves to.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40490803]of course it's going to be that way, what a silly poll. Our [b]military[/b] kills their civilians, their civilians kill our civilians. Still doesn't make it right. Why should I get being blown up since our military/foreign affairs suck? my point is there should be 0% for attacking civilians regardless of who you are, no exceptions.[/QUOTE] are you saying muslims in America aren't supposed to be considered US citizens here i fixed it for u [QUOTE=Glitchman;40490803] Our military kills their civilians, [B]our[/B] civilians kill our civilians. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40490803]of course it's going to be that way, what a silly poll. Our [b]military[/b] kills their civilians, their civilians kill our civilians. Still doesn't make it right. Why should I get being blown up since our military/foreign affairs suck? my point is there should be 0% for attacking civilians regardless of who you are, no exceptions.[/QUOTE] What is this bullshit? "Their"? "Our"? And I'm very sorry to break this news to you, but what SHOULD be according to some people, and what IS aren't compatible.
[QUOTE=someguywithagun;40490424]Interesting, but also disturbing at the same time, particularly when it comes to acceptance of homosexuals and women obeying their husbands at all times. Those percentages are quite high.[/QUOTE] I think that has more to do with the fact that they live in a culture where women have always been subservient to men, not due to Islam itself. Also I'd wager if you surveyed US Christians at least 75% would say homosexuality is immoral, too.
This was obviously conducted by Islamo-apologists and must be discredited because
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;40495620]This was obviously conducted by Islamo-apologists and must be discredited because[/QUOTE] Given how many people are taking a survey that proves the vast majority of Muslims aren't violent extremists and generally decent, and pointing only to Egypt and Jordan and saying "ALL MUSLIMS WANT TO MURDER APOSTATES," you'd probably be right.
56% of those surveyed in the middle east think those who leave Islam should be executed. 56% believe in severe corporal punishment involving mutilation. 77% against abortion. 85% of wives should obey their husbands. 86% says morality comes from god. This is the kind of shit you would expect the Westboro Baptist Church to say.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;40493015]is 38.000 in a survey really "massive"? i thought it would be like 200.000+ or something.[/QUOTE] Considering the US government uses phone surveys of 250 people from 20 years ago as examples of a mandate to push legislation, I'd say it's pretty massive.
When your taking a survey the number of people you survey gets redundant after a point, 38 000 is a lot of people but its like that since Muslims signify a large portion of the worlds population
[QUOTE=Xystus234;40510812]56% of those surveyed in the middle east think those who leave Islam should be executed. 56% believe in severe corporal punishment involving mutilation. 77% against abortion. 85% of wives should obey their husbands. 86% says morality comes from god. This is the kind of shit you would expect the Westboro Baptist Church to say.[/QUOTE] Since when is Westboro more extremist than the middle east?
[QUOTE=Xystus234;40510812]56% of those surveyed in the middle east think those who leave Islam should be executed. 56% believe in severe corporal punishment involving mutilation. 77% against abortion. 85% of wives should obey their husbands. 86% says morality comes from god. This is the kind of shit you would expect the Westboro Baptist Church to say.[/QUOTE] Super secret hint: The people polled for those questions are those who already believe that Shariah Law should be made the legal code of their nation. :downs:
[QUOTE=Xystus234;40510812]56% of those surveyed in the middle east think those who leave Islam should be executed. 56% believe in severe corporal punishment involving mutilation. 77% against abortion. 85% of wives should obey their husbands. 86% says morality comes from god. This is the kind of shit you would expect the Westboro Baptist Church to say.[/QUOTE] tbh the last three is the kind of shit you would expect any church members to say.
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