A South Korean intelligence official correctly predicted North Korea would urge foreign diplomats to - Polidicks

[quote]Today, North Korea urged a number of foreign embassies in Pyongyang to evacuate their staffs because the country would, according to the U.K.’s reading of the warning it received, “be unable to guarantee the safety of embassies and international organizations in the country in the event of conflict from April 10.” In other words, North Korea is telling foreign diplomats, including that of nominally friendly Russia, “war might be coming, so you better skip town.” But it wouldn’t have been so surprising if you’re a regular reader of the JoongAng Daily, a major South Korean broadsheet newspaper with a sizable readership and a reputation for leaning a touch to the right. Three weeks ago, JoongAng ran a story, citing a single, anonymous official with South Korean intelligence, predicting that this is exactly what would happen. The South Korean intelligence official reportedly told JoongAng that North Korea would “inform foreign diplomatic missions in Pyongyang to pull out their citizens” as stage two of a three-stage process to push the Korean peninsula right up to, but not over, the brink of nuclear war. Stage one was “issuing war threats against the South and spreading the idea that a war is imminent.” Check. This is the scary part, if you believe the report: Stage three is “a terrorist attack on a public installation in the South such as an airport, or an armed attack like the sinking of the Cheonan.”[/quote] [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/05/report-south-korean-intel-official-correctly-predicted-north-korea-urging-embassy-evacuations-said-attack-would-follow/[/url]

I really don't understand why NK would ever risk an actual war against anyone. Nothing good can come from it.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;40175122]I really don't understand why NK would ever risk an actual war against anyone. Nothing good can come from it.[/QUOTE] Purging the world of the imperialist scum!

[QUOTE=sp00ks;40175122]I really don't understand why NK would ever risk an actual war against anyone. Nothing good can come from it.[/QUOTE] Keep in mind that NK is run by a small political enclave. Whatever they say goes, basically; so if their judgment is poor everybody in the country will be up shit creek. This could just be them going down and taking everybody with them.. assuming something happens. if nothing happens then this was just a lot of loud noise. [editline]5th April 2013[/editline] + being born into a personality cult may give Kim an inflated perception of his own abilities as a leader.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;40175185]Keep in mind that NK is run by a small political enclave. Whatever they say goes, basically; so if their judgment is poor everybody in the country will be up shit creek. This could just be them going down and taking everybody with them.. assuming something happens. if nothing happens then this was just a lot of loud noise. [editline]5th April 2013[/editline] + being born into a personality cult may give Kim an inflated perception of his own abilities as a leader.[/QUOTE] But they don't have to go down at all? I don't get it. Also there's no way Kim himself is calling literally all of the shots. And he's been to the outside world (he was educated in Europe wasn't he). So if someone Kim really was this crazy someone in the government would probably kill him before it came to war.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;40175122]I really don't understand why NK would ever risk an actual war against anyone. Nothing good can come from it.[/QUOTE] I don't think they're actually seeking a full-blown conflict. They aren't dense enough to think they might survive it, but would very much like to stick it to the "imperialist scum" in any way they can. Isolated terrorist-esque actions that end up causing costly damage and even killing a few people, but not enough to convince the rest of the world that direct retaliatory measures are the only option, seems like a very plausible plan for NK. They know that the rest of the world will tolerate a lot in order to avoid a full-blown war, and they're probably taking advantage of that to do as much damage as they can without provoking retaliation. Problem is of course, as experts have pointed out, that NK can't be sure of exactly how far they can go before the international community considers the line crossed.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;40175227]But they don't have to go down at all? I don't get it. Also there's no way Kim himself is calling literally all of the shots. And he's been to the outside world (he was educated in Europe wasn't he). So if someone Kim really was this crazy someone in the government would probably kill him before it came to war.[/QUOTE] I didn't say he was, I said small political enclave. It's still likely he still has a fair bit of control. Nonetheless given the country's extreme political isolation, maybe they are just getting collectively high on their own fumes and don't realize the ramifications of all this.

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING AMERICA THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS TO STRIKE FIRST

It's gonna actually happen this time... They better not do anything that'll delay HL3 or GTA5

[QUOTE=hl2conscript;40175300]WHAT ARE YOU WAITING AMERICA THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS TO STRIKE FIRST[/QUOTE] The only winning move is to sit back and prevent anything from escalating.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;40175122]I really don't understand why NK would ever risk an actual war against anyone. Nothing good can come from it.[/QUOTE] they aren't "risking an actual war". the un regime is just consolidating its power over north korea by bringing them close to war. [editline]5th April 2013[/editline] having a common enemy prevents power struggles, infighting, civil unrest, etc.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;40175122]I really don't understand why NK would ever risk an actual war against anyone. Nothing good can come from it.[/QUOTE] Well it is either, die a criminal where you lose a war, instantly providing jobs, food, medicine, and shit for their country might as well do a war, fly out to some island and live out the rest of your days

So Sobotnik...

If anything does happen, it'll probably happen after the 10th.

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;40175314]The only winning move is to sit back and prevent anything from escalating.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the Czechen people really liked that option when the Germans invaded them in 1939 and nobody wanted to escalated the conflict any further.

[QUOTE=Beafman;40175439]Yeah, the Czechen people really liked that option when the Germans invaded them in 1939 and nobody wanted to escalated the conflict any further.[/QUOTE] They haven't invaded yet, boyo. If they do they'll have their hands full of international intervention, don't you worry.

[QUOTE=Beafman;40175439]Yeah, the Czechen people really liked that option when the Germans invaded them in 1939 and nobody wanted to escalated the conflict any further.[/QUOTE] North hasn't invaded anyone yet, though. EDIT: Ninja'd. Czechoslovakia was "given" to the Germans by the allies as part of the appeasement policy, and we really aren't appeasing North Korea with sanctions and defense alliances. :v:

I'm really curious, what would actually happen if NK actually launched their missiles against the US. can they be stopped? other than bombing them before they do?

[QUOTE=Mandems;40175552]I'm really curious, what would actually happen if NK actually launched their missiles against the US. can they be stopped? other than bombing them before they do?[/QUOTE] idk how fast the missiles travel but i think you could scramble jets to take them out.

[QUOTE=Mandems;40175552]I'm really curious, what would actually happen if NK actually launched their missiles against the US. can they be stopped? other than bombing them before they do?[/QUOTE] about a 50% chance of effectively killing a missile during its route.

also i think many american cruisers are equipped with anti-missile missiles of their own.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;40175650]about a 50% chance of effectively killing a missile during its route.[/QUOTE] if that's true then it's preventable, even if it's 50%

It feels like we're going through a loose routine in these threads.

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;40175683]It feels like we're going through a loose routine in these threads.[/QUOTE] genuine concern -> sobotnik's hair -> tactical discussion -> thread dies

[QUOTE=Hellduck;40175738]genuine concern -> sobotnik's hair -> tactical discussion -> thread dies[/QUOTE]Sometimes the first two are swapped. Keeps things interesting.

I'm just starting to think is some ploy by the military officials in NK to get themselves invaded so NK and SK can finally unite after whatever war happens. Or it's just dick waving. I don't really know anymore cut the bullshit already North Korea!

This already happened [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War[/url] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Korean_war_1950-1953.gif[/img]

All I can give is my sympathy for those unfortunate to be tied into these events.

[QUOTE=godfatherk;40175885]This already happened [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War[/url] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Korean_war_1950-1953.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Yea but NK was pretty powerful back then.

Moreover it was their support from the Chinese that allowed them to take back the land up until where the DMZ currently is today.