College Campuses Are Scrambling to Remove Confederate Symbols

[Pretiacruento]

[b]No Tolerance for Intolerance[/b]
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[i]Southern universities are calling for the removal of Confederate flags and other racist symbols.[/i]

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Debate over Confederate symbols continues to intensify in Southern states, with public universities in the middle of the controversy in South Carolina, Texas, and Mississippi. University leaders are speaking out against the use of Confederate symbols—although not always fast enough to satisfy some students and civil rights leaders.

Late Tuesday, the board of the Citadel voted to ask the South Carolina General Assembly to amend a state law so that the university can remove a Confederate naval flag from a place of honor in the chapel. A law enacted in 2000, the South Carolina Heritage Act, states that “any monument, marker, memorial, school, or street erected or named in honor of the Confederacy or the civil rights movement located on any municipal, county or state property shall not be removed, changed or renamed without the enactment of a joint resolution by a two-thirds vote of the membership of each house of the General Assembly approving same.”

Until the Citadel board voted, 9–3, to ask that the law be amended, the university had refused to endorse any move of the flag, as some civil rights leaders have sought. The Citadel’s historic ties to the Confederacy are significant; Citadel officers helped attack Fort Sumter. While there are Confederate flags in museum displays at the Citadel, it is the flag in a place of honor in the chapel that has been controversial.[/quote]

Wow, looks like this is being taken more seriously than I initially thought.

[Mr. Someguy]

That's a good message to spread. Want to change the world? Shoot up a public area.

[Col. Buggernuts]

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48047073]That's a good message to spread. Want to change the world? Shoot up a public area.[/QUOTE]Not exactly the change the shooter was hoping for, though.

[Ownederd]

this really isn't all that different from the flag of the NSDAP being banned all over germany except for historical or educational reasons. i don't know why people are getting flustered over this being banned

[Nikota]

I have changed my ways now that all the right people, including Walmart have volunteered in this removal.

[Pretiacruento]

[QUOTE=Ownederd;48047082]this really isn't all that different from the flag of the NSDAP being banned all over germany except for historical or education reasons. i don't know why people are getting flustered over this being banned[/QUOTE]

Two words: MUH HERITAGE!1!1!11!!111

[Daniel Smith]

[QUOTE=Ownederd;48047082]this really isn't all that different from the flag of the NSDAP being banned all over germany except for historical or educational reasons. i don't know why people are getting flustered over this being banned[/QUOTE]

No Germany is far more strict than America when it comes to this stuff, you just can't compare them.

[Pretiacruento]

I wonder what would Darrell think about all this, considering one of his most famous signature guitars sports that flag. If the gawddamn General Lee '69 Charger is now frowned upon in NASCAR events, his guitar would start to attract the wrong kind of attention as well.

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[editline]25th June 2015[/editline]

Hell, I'd like to see if Dean guitars goes ahead and pulls it out of the catalog.

[Canuhearme?]

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48047073]That's a good message to spread. Want to change the world? Shoot up a public area.[/QUOTE]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDmOGN-x0ls[/media]

Violence is always the answer.

[RejectedPost]

[QUOTE=Ownederd;48047082]this really isn't all that different from the flag of the NSDAP being banned all over germany except for historical or educational reasons. i don't know why people are getting flustered over this being banned[/QUOTE]

Well maybe because people don't try to portray the fucking Nazis as heroic and definitely not about trying to exterminate Jews.

[ayay]

Whether or not you believe the flag represents slavery or oppression, it is undeniably a symbol of disunity and the wounds of racism will never be healed until we as a nation can come together and recognize that only United can we move forward and create a country where equality and justice reign, not disunity, conflict and prejudicial hate.

[lolwutdude]

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48047073]That's a good message to spread. Want to change the world? Shoot up a public area.[/QUOTE]

this is the dumbest thing i have ever read

that's like saying if we want to pull down any nazi flags and saying "That's a good message to spread. Want to change the world? Kill six million Jews"

[XNiggerHunter88X]

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48047073]That's a good message to spread. Want to change the world? Shoot up a public area.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to America: a country fueled by hindsight.

[pentium]

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48047069][b]

Wow, looks like this is being taken more seriously than I initially thought.[/QUOTE]

No that is just people scrambling to try and look politically correct and as a result, some people are going above and beyond to try and disassociate themselves from the flag even if the only relation they have is a fancy plastic keychain.

[Pretiacruento]

I went ahead and tweeted about it to them.

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I'm far, [I]far[/I] from being a PC nutjob, and I'm sure that not everyone who owns -or plans to own- one of Dime's signature guitars is an inbred, uneducated racist, but I guess it'd be nice to hear what they have to say about it.

Hell, eBay went ahead and banned the sale of items with the Confederate symbol...

[editline]25th June 2015[/editline]

And as far as I know, Dime wasn't racist, so...

[coup]

[QUOTE=Ownederd;48047082]this really isn't all that different from the flag of the NSDAP being banned all over germany except for historical or educational reasons. i don't know why people are getting flustered over this being banned[/QUOTE]

Because it's against one of the things our country is supposedly founded upon? And the first amendment?

[editline]25th June 2015[/editline]

I can understand private places banning it, but public entities like college campuses shouldn't have this right.

[wickedplayer494]

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;48047080]Not exactly the change the shooter was hoping for, though.[/QUOTE]

It'll be exactly the changes copycats will certainly look for.

[Ownederd]

it shouldn't be the job of the government to protect hate speech

[Rangergxi]

[QUOTE=Ownederd;48047159]it shouldn't be the job of the government to protect hate speech[/QUOTE]

What defines hate speech?

[lolwutdude]

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;48047157]It'll be exactly the changes copycats will certainly look for.[/QUOTE]

yeah i agree

because of this event, i and many others will advocate for a healthcare reform by going into hospitals and killing doctors

[Ownederd]

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48047162]What defines hate speech?[/QUOTE]

you should know what it is, instead of trying to make a semantics discussion out of it

[coup]

It's not about governments protecting hate speech, it's about governments protecting [i]speech[/i], end note.

What is defined as 'hate speech' changes every generation. It wasn't too long ago much of this wasn't considered hate speech at all.

[editline]25th June 2015[/editline]

And honestly, it's less about 'protecting' it, because even with the first amendment somebody can kick your ass out of their establishment for saying 'nigger' if they so want to, it's more about preventing the government from using it as an excuse to hurt you in the first place. Public college campuses are in fact an extension in this case.

[Rangergxi]

[QUOTE=Ownederd;48047173]you should know what it is, instead of trying to make a semantics discussion out of it[/QUOTE]

I think thats a valid question when even basic terms such as "racism" are up for debate. "Power+privilege", etc.

[Ownederd]

if you knew how the CSA operated then why on earth do we need a discussion about semantics

[Moustacheman]

This is going to be a problem because quite a few reenactments are hosted by colleges and we're obviously not just going to leave our units' colors at home.

[Maxumym]

-this was funnier in my head, really-

[Unknown]

The flag isn't the point here; it's a symbol of whatever people want it to be. To some, that's racism, to others it isn't. However, the move to ban or remove the flag is--in of itself--can be viewed as a symbolic move by these organizations and individuals saying they don't support racism.

I think it's a shame a historic flag has to be banned as a result, but I do think this nation needs such gestures of unity at this time.

[alxnotorious]

Predicted headline a week from now: " Confederacy symbols removed from all history textbooks"

[Breakfast Buddy]

[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;48047506]Predicted headline a week from now: " Confederacy symbols removed from all history textbooks"[/QUOTE]

Nah they'll just have to put in content warnings the first 4 pages

[lolwutdude]

taking down racist symbols = sjw evil masterplan

got'cha

[editline]25th June 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;48047506]Predicted headline a week from now: " Confederacy symbols removed from all history textbooks"[/QUOTE]

i retract my earlier post

this is the dumbest post i have ever read