Russian PM Medvedev: Ukraine upheaval is 'armed mutiny' - Polidicks

[video=youtube;9u_BCYGiwMw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u_BCYGiwMw[/video] [QUOTE]Russia has stepped up its rhetoric against Ukraine's new Western-leaning leadership as tensions rise over the ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych. Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev said interim authorities in Kiev had conducted an "armed mutiny". And the Russian foreign ministry said dissenters in mainly Russian-speaking regions faced suppression. Earlier, Ukraine's interim interior minister said an arrest warrant had been issued for Mr Yanukovych. MPs voted to remove Mr Yanukovych on Saturday. His whereabouts are unknown but he was reported to have been in the Crimean peninsula on Sunday. Russia has already recalled its ambassador to Ukraine for consultation. Unrest in Ukraine began in November when Mr Yanukovych rejected a landmark association and trade deal with the EU in favour of closer ties with Russia. Mr Medvedev, quoted by Russian news agencies, suggested that Western countries that accepted Ukraine's new authorities were mistaken. "The legitimacy of a whole number of organs of power that function there raises great doubts," he said. "Some of our foreign, Western partners think otherwise. This is some kind of aberration of perception when people call legitimate what is essentially the result of an armed mutiny." He added: "We do not understand what is going on there. There is a real threat to our interests and to the lives of our citizens." [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26327211[/url]

[QUOTE]"Some of our foreign, Western partners think otherwise. This is some kind of aberration of perception when people call legitimate what is essentially the result of an armed mutiny."[/QUOTE] disregarding that almost the entire western world was "essentially the result of an armed mutiny"

Well yeah of course, they lost their butt-buddy and now they're pissed about it. [quote]There is a real threat to our interests [b]and to the lives of our citizens.[/b][/quote] What, is Ukraine going to start a war against Russia or something? [quote]"...the result of an armed mutiny."[/quote] Isn't that what most if not all revolutions are?

So basically "we've spent too much money bribing the corrupt government to give up."

The citizens forced out our puppet and now we don't like them anymore.

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;44032808] Isn't that what most if not all revolutions are?[/QUOTE] It's more of message for Russians, that nothing good can ever come out of people taking their lives into their own hands. The word "Revolution" clearly has positive tone, and there's nothing good about ousting the government. It's not like we need to be reminded of that though, nothing like in Ukraine can ever happen here, and government should know it at this point.

Yanukovych was not best friends with Russia.. he only wanted power and a quick exit from financial issues.

It's ok Ukraine, if you'd just let him uncle Putin would make everything better for you!

Yeah, because Ukraine totally belongs to a few men previously in power, not the fucking people inhabiting it. Seriously wish this guy could get fucked.

[QUOTE=Chonch;44032744]disregarding that almost the entire western world was "essentially the result of an armed mutiny"[/QUOTE] Even the modern Russian state, and the Soviet Union before that, was "essentially the result of an armed mutiny"

Completely disregarding the fact that the crew has a right to mutiny if the Captain is found unfit for command.

Sounds like he's afraid that the same might happen to him as well. I would be afraid if I was him.

[QUOTE=uber.;44034106]Sounds like he's afraid that the same might happen to him as well. I would be afraid if I was him.[/QUOTE] He is probably more afraid of being fired by Putin.

[QUOTE=laserguided;44034120]He is probably more afraid of being fired by Putin.[/QUOTE] Or executed, considering Russia has a history of executing "incompetent" or unpopular leaders and I wouldn't put it beyond Putin.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;44034075]Completely disregarding the fact that the crew has a right to mutiny if the Captain is found unfit for command.[/QUOTE] Where and when? In the British empire people were killed for such things.

[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;44034173]Or executed, considering Russia has a history of executing "incompetent" or unpopular leaders and I wouldn't put it beyond Putin.[/QUOTE] What

[QUOTE=laserguided;44034120]He is probably more afraid of being fired by Putin.[/QUOTE] Or Putin is scared about Russian protesters getting similar ideas. There are protests all the time there.

[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;44034173]Or executed, considering Russia has a history of executing "incompetent" or unpopular leaders and I wouldn't put it beyond Putin.[/QUOTE] The weenie little cyka better not try that.

ya so you could either handle this like men or this, this is probably just going to get more people killed but eeeh what the heck

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;44034236]Or Putin is scared about Russian protesters getting similar ideas. There are protests all the time there.[/QUOTE] That's actually an interesting thought. Although Russia doesn't quite appear to have a trigger, like the Ukraine being stuck there right between Russia and the EU.

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;44032808] What, is Ukraine going to start a war against Russia or something? [/QUOTE] No but putin and the powers that be in russia would gladly go to war for ukraine and some post era soviet countries.

Who put Putin in power anyways? Ukraine's business is their business, not Russia's.

[QUOTE=BCell;44038230]Who put Putin in power anyways? Ukraine's business is their business, not Russia's.[/QUOTE] Putin put himself in power. Hence "put-in".

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;44034075]Completely disregarding the fact that the crew has a right to mutiny if the Captain is found unfit for command.[/QUOTE] I thought by law in the 1700's/1800's you had to put up with the captains shit.

Yes, it [I]was[/I] a mutiny, because people thought the government was shit, and they were well within their rights as people to overthrow the corrupt government. You can't argue that. Like, they keep saying things like this, and the only thing people can be saying is "Uh, yeah, we know." Or if they say the impeachment was illegal, people should say "No, it wasn't. It was done by Ukraine's parliament, and within proper, legal bounds." The only thing that's slightly plausible to debate is them saying "The government was fine, the people were overreacting and being ridiculous," but then they'll just get laughed at. EDIT: Disregard what I said about the impeachment being fully and properly legal. I was apparently wrong about that.

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;44038528] Or if they say the impeachment was illegal, people should say "No, it wasn't. It was done by Ukraine's parliament, and within proper, legal bounds." [/QUOTE] That is incorrect though. The impeachment procedure wasn't done in accordance with Constitution. Which is completely understandable, but still that question has to be explain better than "proper legal bounds". Circumstances didn't allow fot that.