• Valve aiming for Steam Machines release somtime in 2015, is apparently mainly working on the control
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[url]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse?foo#announcements/detail/1820891223906967821[/url] [t]http://media.steampowered.com/img/steamuniverse/SteamControllerNotes.jpg[/t] [quote]We've been getting emails from the Steam community asking us how our in-development Steam Machines are coming along. It's great that you're excited about it, and we know you appreciate it when we keep you in the loop on stuff like this, so we wanted to give you all a quick update. We’re now using wireless prototype controllers to conduct live playtests, with everyone from industry professionals to die-hard gamers to casual gamers. It's generating a [I]ton[/I] of useful feedback, and it means we'll be able to make the controller a lot better. Of course, it's also keeping us pretty busy [I]making[/I] all those improvements. Realistically, we're now looking at a release window of 2015, not 2014. Obviously we're just as eager as you are to get a Steam Machine in your hands. But our number one priority is making sure that when you do, you'll be getting the best gaming experience possible. We hope you'll be patient with us while we get there. Until then, we’ll continue to post updates as we have more stories to share. As always, we love getting feedback on the Steam Machine and Steam controller from the community. After all, you're the people we want to be happiest when we release them. Feel free to continue posting your thoughts and suggestions to the [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions"] Steam Universe[/URL] discussion group.[/quote]
My professor wound up getting a machine and controller from Dev days so I got to try it out. It handled fine for FTL but I can't imagine using it for something faster paced. That said it was pretty enjoyable. The track pads make this insectoid ticking sound as you use them though. My professor despised it tho :v:
I still kinda hope they would go back to that idea of being able to plug the thumb pads out and swap them around which they apparently have patented a while back. It would be sweet to have one controller where you could stick analogs or trackpads or more D-pads or just more random buttons, modularly, based on demand. Beats having half a dozen different controllers.
If the track-pads and controller suck, the all thing will be a waste. I think it's worth the wait if in the end it turns out to be a good thing.
Without a launch title like HL3 or some blockbuster title I don't see a reason to buy the steam box. And yest I get that it's "gaming PC for those who don't want to build one", but still the push for SteamOS is really up a creek without a blockbuster game to push it further
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;44931691]Without a launch title like HL3 or some blockbuster title I don't see a reason to buy the steam box. And yest I get that it's "gaming PC for those who don't want to build one", but still the push for SteamOS is really up a creek without a blockbuster game to push it further[/QUOTE] I don't see your point, they aren't going to make a game that is exclusive to steamOS.
steamos is pretty much pc, since its linux
I think that purpose of Steam OS is to attempt to chip at the defining power of both Microsoft's Windows and the major console producers... Microsoft and Sony. It's not meant to make Valve a killing because they already are making a killing and this can if anything just add a wee bit on top of that pile of mad cash. They don't really have public investors to pander to, so they can do whatever the fuck they want. If the entire thing flops they will probably barely take a hit, if it goes through they might grow into something insane.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;44931691]Without a launch title like HL3 or some blockbuster title I don't see a reason to buy the steam box. [/QUOTE] [B]There won't be any exclusive titles.[/B] Is that so hard to understand?
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;44931691]Without a launch title like HL3 or some blockbuster title I don't see a reason to buy the steam box. And yest I get that it's "gaming PC for those who don't want to build one", but still the push for SteamOS is really up a creek without a blockbuster game to push it further[/QUOTE] I have always seen it as Valve's clever way to penetrate the console market without even making a console. If they give incentives for more developers to move their games to Linux and have controller support then it basically means your average joe can put it in their living room and have full access to Steam and all its benefits (Sales etc), while still keeping the whole console experience of being able to turn it on and play without a lot of effort.
I get the feeling that they're focusing on the controller because that's the only part of the Steam Machine that is going to actually sell.
[QUOTE=Reds;44933284]I get the feeling that they're focusing on the controller because that's the only part of the Steam Machine that is going to actually sell.[/QUOTE] what makes you so sure of that you might not buy a steam box but you can't really speak for everyone else in the same respect
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;44931896]I don't see your point, they aren't going to make a game that is exclusive to steamOS.[/QUOTE] huh guess I missed where I said it HL3 needed to be exclusive to the steam box, can you please point it out for me? What I was saying was, without some title that people are going for the SteamOS still won't have much of anything going for it to make it a system seller. Launching a steambox with HL3 included or the Orangebox 2 is going to be a hard sell. [QUOTE=Antimuffin;44932045][B]There won't be any exclusive titles.[/B] Is that so hard to understand?[/QUOTE] Where did I say the word exclusive in that post?
[QUOTE=Reds;44933284]I get the feeling that they're focusing on the controller because that's the only part of the Steam Machine that is going to actually sell.[/QUOTE] They're focusing on the controller because the actual machine is easy; It's just a computer running Linux.
[QUOTE=Foxtrot200;44933940]They're focusing on the controller because the actual machine is easy; It's just a computer running Linux.[/QUOTE] And because the machines aren't even going to be done by them. They just customize the OS and generic retailers supply the hardware.
[QUOTE=.Lain;44933313]what makes you so sure of that you might not buy a steam box but you can't really speak for everyone else in the same respect[/QUOTE] No one, even the people who were excited at first, stayed excted after finding out about the specs and the prices. There was just a collective, "I'll just get a laptop or console" response from them. This isn't markted to PC gamers, its not markted to console gamers either. Its market is a non-existent one and they're hoping to pull an Apple which doesn't create markets, it goes into markets that aren't big and uses their brand name to make them big. These are just glorified pre-built PCs.
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I don't think they're solely relying on the controller to sell Steam Machines. I imagine you can use them without one, and to my knowledge the machines are produced by Valve partners (if you want to use official ones anyway, you can make one yourself after all). I don't think they're gonna rely on exclusives either. Looks to me like they're plain and simply convinced that people genuinely like the concept and will buy the hardware because they want the hardware - not something tethered to it like exclusives or PS+. It'll come down to execution and price in the end, but I think Steam Machines on paper could give PC gamers console features without any of the downsides associated with console gaming, and vice-versa. The controller heavily reflects that merging of console and PC gaming of course, so I can see why they're spending as much extra time as needed on it. Good to hear the feedback mechanism is going as well as expected!
[QUOTE=Problem;44931608]My professor wound up getting a machine and controller from Dev days so I got to try it out. It handled fine for FTL but I can't imagine using it for something faster paced. That said it was pretty enjoyable. The track pads make this insectoid ticking sound as you use them though. My professor despised it tho :v:[/QUOTE] What could be more fast paced than light?
[QUOTE=.Lain;44933313]what makes you so sure of that you might not buy a steam box but you can't really speak for everyone else in the same respect[/QUOTE] people have opinions he said "i get the feeling that" not "the only reason" in the post you quoted he doesn't even imply he is completely 100% sure of it (because that's stupid and impossible).
[QUOTE=Knoxed;44931928]steamos is pretty much pc, since its linux[/QUOTE] WiiU has more fucking games than linux does.
No wonder Valve hasn't released HL3 yet. They have been working on this.
[QUOTE=redBadger;44935345]WiiU has more fucking games than linux does.[/QUOTE] That's half the reason valve have taken it under their wing so much. Since Steam got linux support the amount of linux-supported games coming out has increased a fucking load. Imagine the effect the steamboxes will have.
I wanna see Linux gaming get farther. It already has more games than Wii u, Xbone and PS4 combined.
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