Disney animators aim to revive 2D hand-drawn animation with “Hullabaloo" - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Disney’s last traditionally animated films were 2009′s “The Princess and the Frog” and 2011′s “Winnie the Pooh.” Before that, decades of history allowed artists to put pencil to paper and create life on the big screen. Now, while computer animation certainly still requires the talent of animators, 2D hand-drawn animation is fading away. A group of longtime Disney animators is aiming to prevent that from happening. “Hullabaloo” is described as “a 2D (hand-drawn) animated steampunk film that hopes to help preserve the dying art of 2D animation.” It’s helmed by James Lopez, veteran Disney animator whose 25-year career has included credits such as “The Lion King,” “The Princess and the Frog,” “Pocahontas,” “Hercules,” and the recent short “Paperman,” among many others. He’s currently a teacher at CalArts and has also worked for other studios including Warner Bros. and Dreamworks.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.insidethemagic.net/2014/09/disney-animators-aim-to-revive-2d-hand-drawn-animation-with-hullabaloo-an-independent-animated-steampunk-film/[/url] [video=youtube;33NMLaTy7y4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33NMLaTy7y4[/video] [IMG]http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/art.png[/IMG][IMG]http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/art2.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/art3.png[/IMG][IMG]http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/art4.png[/IMG]

hand drawn is great for getting an art style down but its not completely nessisary computers allowed for much smoother and real-er looking movement and transitions

[QUOTE=Sableye;45883313]hand drawn is great for getting an art style down but its not completely nessisary computers allowed for much smoother and real-er looking movement and transitions[/QUOTE] So? Not everything should be CGI

Bring back that Tarzan animation feel Disney

I'm an absolute sucker for steampunk and it actually looks like they focused on the punk part more than the steam WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

Where is the "Didney wolr" when you need it?

[URL="https://twitter.com/charleshuettner/status/507250260570550272"]This was retweeted[/URL] by Cartoon Brew and honestly I think it is something to discuss. Just because something isn't thriving in big companies like Disney or Dreamworks doesn't mean it isn't thriving in the smaller industries. Hell, most of the art colleges I have gone to have had a higher ratio of animation desks:computers, so it's probably not going anywhere anytime soon just cause Disney ain't doing it anymore. Just look at the post-Newgrounds artists, they're still working on YouTube and living, even constantly expanding and evolving [URL="http://www.cartoonbrew.com/ideas-commentary/is-youtube-making-it-harder-for-animators-to-make-money-102408.html"]with the changes as of late.[/URL] (see OneyNG on how he's handling it with SleepyCabin, or Harry Partridge who's doing his own long form series'.) Hell, we basically NEED 2D animation for cartoons on TV due to time constraints, the only company able to produce 3D animation in a short timeframe is Dreamworks due to their large staff. Plus, a lot of animators still sketch out their ideas and animations in 2D, which leads them to imitate the 2D medium. And now with experiments like Paperman and Feast that have been well recieved, even the Mouse House is considering 2D again, albeit an onion skin over 3D. Still, [B]I really don't want to sully this project.[/B] It looks absolutely amazing, and I'll probably donate to it, but only because it looks to be an awesome film, not to preserve what's still active.

CGI films is about as milked as modern military shooters, once you make the first film you can re-use most of the assets on a half-assed holiday version made by some interns. Then you can make 2,3, the squeakquel, or whatever.

aaaand funded.

OOOhhhh. A Disney Steampunk movie? Kinda looks like generic Steampunk, but I'll take it to see Steampunk in glorious Disney animation.

[img]http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/art3.png[/img] Waluigi

I mean the Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh used ToonBoom, I wouldn't say they're entirely by hand

yes please thankyou

[QUOTE=Problem;45883771]I mean the Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh used ToonBoom, I wouldn't say they're entirely by hand[/QUOTE] They did the animation (lines) on paper firsthand, then colors and final on ToonBoom. That's generally agreed upon as being done "by-hand" nowadays. There are some who'd even argue animation that's properly drawn and redrawn (rather than bouncy "flash" animation) is hand-drawn.

Good, after seeing some design images I noticed that FRozen would be far superior drawn [t]http://i3.minus.com/ibtWslSIjdI1D8.jpg[/t] [t]http://i6.minus.com/ixIqscbBcLheU.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;45883766][img]http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/art3.png[/img] Waluigi[/QUOTE] No, it's Dan Backslide! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shHniEcn_gc[/media] Yeah I couldn't find clips that weren't just youtube poops. Just roll with it, it's a nice short.

The guy in that video is just so likable. [url]https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hullabaloo-steampunk-animated-film[/url] they also reached the goal already.

Hand drawn really has a certain flow in it that computer generated really cant capture.

[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;45883766][img]http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/art3.png[/img] Waluigi[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/8BpacET.png[/t] There we go!

FYI, the campaign has already reached 85,000 of its 80,000 goal, [URL="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hullabaloo-steampunk-animated-film"] with 28 days left to go[/URL], so this is definately gonna be a thing

The Paperman short shows how modern CGI and 3D tech can actually help the workflow of hand-drawn animation: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZJLtujW6FY[/media]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45883887]Hand drawn really has a certain flow in it that computer generated really cant capture.[/QUOTE] No where is this more noticeable than in shit like anime chinese cartoon CGI has improved a metric fuck ton, but an artist's vision and expression lends a lot more personality and feel to 2D animation than pretend-2D 3D can pull off. Going off model during certain frames and exaggerating features in motion that technically shouldn't exist really adds a lot of character that you can't feasibly replicate with 3d CGI's frame perfect motion. [QUOTE=Clavus;45884092]The Paperman short shows how modern CGI and 3D tech can actually help the workflow of hand-drawn animation: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZJLtujW6FY[/media][/QUOTE] Paperman did a damn fine job of replicating the natural flow of hand drawn art, but there are moments that really come off as noticeably CGIed. It's hard to put a finger on, but there's something that feels artificial about the way things move that gives it away. Given sufficiently large production value and good art in general it would be a non-issue in an actual movie, but you still get this kind of uncanny valley feel where it feels sorta off.

[QUOTE=Problem;45883771]I mean the Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh used ToonBoom, I wouldn't say they're entirely by hand[/QUOTE] nobody has used cel-based animation for years

Drawn is better because rule 34 comes around way quicker and of better quality

[QUOTE=proch;45884156]Drawn is better because rule 34 comes around way quicker and of better quality[/QUOTE] im crying irl

Steampunk 2D animated disney movie? Yes please. Since it's already funded i'm really looking forward to this.

I was kinda interested up until I saw it being steam punk.

Just supported. Can't wait.

[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;45883827]Good, after seeing some design images I noticed that FRozen would be far superior drawn [t]http://i3.minus.com/ibtWslSIjdI1D8.jpg[/t] [t]http://i6.minus.com/ixIqscbBcLheU.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVWtTPa7wLM[/media] 2D animation has a lot of advantages when it comes to those little variations in expression and character movement. It's just very, very, very difficult to make a whole movie look that good consistently.

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;45883578]Still, [B]I really don't want to sully this project.[/B][/QUOTE] I don't know, I thought Monster's Inc. was pretty good.