• Apple leaves EPEAT certification
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Source: [url]http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57468103-37/apple-bows-out-of-program-for-environment-minded-products/[/url] Article: [quote]Apple has decided to stop participating in a major program devoted to the production of environmentally friendly products, reportedly saying that its design direction is no longer in line with the program's requirements. Late last month, Apple told the nonprofit EPEAT group that the company would no longer submit its products for green certification from EPEAT and that it was pulling its currently certified products from the group's registry. According to The Wall Street Journal's CIO Journal site, 39 of Apple's products had received EPEAT's green stamp of approval, including laptops such as the MacBook Pro and the MacBook Air. EPEAT, or the Electronic Product Environmental Assessment Tool, receives funding from the Environmental Protection Agency and calls itself "the leading global environmental rating system for electronic products, connecting purchasers to environmentally preferable choices and benefiting producers who demonstrate environmental responsibility and innovation." The U.S. government requires that 95 percent of its electronics bear the EPEAT seal of approval; large companies such as Ford and Kaiser Permanente require their CIOs to buy from EPEAT-certified firms; and many of the largest universities in the U.S. prefer to buy EPEAT-friendly gear, CIO Journal reports. Apple "said their design direction was no longer consistent with the EPEAT requirements," CIO Journal quotes EPEAT CEO Robert Frisbee as saying. "They were important supporters and we are disappointed that they don't want their products measured by this standard anymore." Among other things, the EPEAT requirements hold that electronics must be easy to disassemble, so their components can be recycled. The iPhone, the iPad, and the new MacBook Pro with Retina display don't pass muster because of things like batteries and glass displays that are glued to casings and backings. Apple may soon introduce an alternate green standard to apply to its products, CIO Journal reports. We've contacted Apple for comment and will update this post if and when we hear back. CIO Journal said Apple had declined to comment but had referred the site to the Environment section of Apple's Web site. The Verge points out that Apple had touted an EPEAT Gold rating for its iMac computer (see screenshot of the relevant page on Apple's site below).[/quote] Summary from Slashdot: [quote]"CNET reports that Apple is turning its back on the EPA supported EPEAT hardware certification program. One of the problems EPEAT sees are barriers to recycling. Batteries and screens glued into place — that sort of thing. There is a price for Apple in this: CIO Journal notes that the U.S. government requires that 95 percent of its electronics bear the EPEAT seal of approval; large companies such as Ford and Kaiser Permanente require their CIOs to buy from EPEAT-certified firms; and many of the largest universities in the U.S. prefer to buy EPEAT-friendly gear."[/quote]
They are probably making the "green apple". Since it says they are going for an alternate green program.
What happens if apple doesn't make this 95% EPEAT seal of approval? Because they obviously wont anymore if they don't bother with it.
Hopefully Apple gets shut down.
Apple's new standard- 100% as green, half the user serviceability
I was wondering how they could continue saying they are certified when the entire laptop is glued together. It makes it much thinner and more well built (I am using one right now), but impossible to recycle in any meaningful way. And fuck if I could ever possibly upgrade anything in this thing.
Yeah I guess it's not really healthy for the enviroment to make three of the same gadget in different sizes
[QUOTE=KorJax;36670787]What happens if apple doesn't make this 95% EPEAT seal of approval? Because they obviously wont anymore if they don't bother with it.[/QUOTE] It's talking about the U.S. government, which requires that "95 percent of its electronics [that it purchases] bear the EPEAT seal of approval"
[QUOTE=draugur;36670832]Hopefully Apple gets shut down.[/QUOTE] If they're switching to their own program or whatever then this wouldn't be in the picture
[QUOTE=KorJax;36670787]What happens if apple doesn't make this 95% EPEAT seal of approval? Because they obviously wont anymore if they don't bother with it.[/QUOTE] It means most US government agencies will no longer be able to purchase their devices. Makes me happy because Mac users where I work are such assholes about it. They're already clamoring for the new Retina MBP and we have to tell them "no, it's too expensive".
[QUOTE=Forumaster;36671156]It means most US government agencies will no longer be able to purchase their devices. Makes me happy because Mac users where I work are such assholes about it. They're already clamoring for the new Retina MBP and we have to tell them "no, it's too expensive".[/QUOTE] The retina screen is impressive but it's hardly worth the price, and it wouldn't really help the average person in any significant way then again, you could say that about almost any Apple product when it comes to government work
Especially the 50 and up old farts that are already too blind to see the broad side of a barn.
[QUOTE=Keegs;36671000]It's talking about the U.S. government, which requires that "95 percent of its electronics [that it purchases] bear the EPEAT seal of approval"[/QUOTE] Well good. Maybe then I will stop seeing Ipads being used in Police cars. God I hate those things.
I think this is funny when most of the hipsters where I live and plebians at my college all use Apple products. Pollute the earth so you can catch up with your stupid fart apps and whittle your money away with texts. [editline]Hm[/editline] Specifically because they pride themselves on being conservative when it comes to the environment when they talk about it. Then again, this is the 21st century, consumerism without responsibility
I suppose Apple sees more profit in making sealed up, not recyclable devices than in selling them to the government en masse. Interesting. [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=sHiBaN;36671709]I think this is funny when most of the hipsters where I live and plebians at my college all use Apple products. Pollute the earth so you can catch up with your stupid fart apps and whittle your money away with texts.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure Apple is not that much worse than other computer companies when it comes to the environment. [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] Hm. I looked it up and Dell has EPEAT certification.
[QUOTE=areolop;36671643]Well good. Maybe then I will stop seeing Ipads being used in Police cars. God I hate those things.[/QUOTE] Somebody uses something I don't like for some dumb reason to help in their line of work god it makes me so angry Who gives a shit
Actually most other PC manufacturers are certified, my bad.
[QUOTE=areolop;36671643]Well good. Maybe then I will stop seeing Ipads being used in Police cars. God I hate those things.[/QUOTE] If they weren't useful, I don't think they would be using them for that kind of work.
Also, I can't wait until the day everything is done through web browsers so we do not have to talk about Macs and PCs anymore.
[QUOTE=draugur;36670832]Hopefully Apple gets shut down.[/QUOTE] this is starting to get pathetic.
Well everyone should be used to Boxes being passed around when anything remotely good about Apple is said, or really hostile comments whenever Apple does something bad involving lawsuits, etc.
[QUOTE=Commando123;36670727]They are probably making the "green apple". Since it says they are going for an alternate green program.[/QUOTE] Nope, even then they are screwed, if they want another lawsuit I mean: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Records[/URL] / [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps[/URL]
Wouldn't this cause Apple to lose money?
[QUOTE]Apple may soon introduce an alternate green standard to apply to its products, CIO Journal reports. [/QUOTE] rofl "Let us worry about the standards, not some unbiased third party"
The guy at ifixit was right, it seems.
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36671709]I think this is funny when most of the hipsters where I live and plebians at my college all use Apple products. Pollute the earth so you can catch up with your stupid fart apps and whittle your money away with texts. [editline]Hm[/editline] Specifically because they pride themselves on being conservative when it comes to the environment when they talk about it. Then again, this is the 21st century, consumerism without responsibility[/QUOTE] I don't know when Hipster became synonymous with Apple user. And stop being a pretentious cuntbucket.
[QUOTE=Noss;36673799]I don't know when Hipster became synonymous with Apple user. And stop being a pretentious cuntbucket.[/QUOTE] 99% of Facepunch don't know what hipster means.
[QUOTE=Noss;36673799]I don't know when Hipster became synonymous with Apple user. And stop being a pretentious cuntbucket.[/QUOTE] It's been a while bro. Especially here in California, it's not hard to miss
[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;36671766]Somebody uses something I don't like for some dumb reason to help in their line of work god it makes me so angry Who gives a shit[/QUOTE]Except that a significant amount of money is spent on these devices that could be much better spent Yes I realize some people have their own reasons for loving Apple products and have their own uses for them but the average job is not significantly improved by their overpriced hardware
you know that hipsters are the ones that call other people hipsters right? hipster as an insult basically means "you're only into it because it's hip, unlike me".
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