[QUOTE]Alienware’s take on the a home entertainment console, the Alienware Alpha, is slated to launch in November. For those looking to buy one as soon as it hits shelves, the company has announced that the Alpha will be available for pre-purchase at Alienware.com, Dell.com, Amazon, and Walmart starting today, August 12, at 9:00 AM CST.
The basic Alpha, which packs an i3 Haswell processor, 4 GB of RAM, a custom Maxwell GPU, and a 500 GB hard drive, will go for $549 (and includes a Xbox 360 controller), but users will have the option to up their Alpha to a Core i7 Haswell processor, 8 GB of RAM, and 1 TB of storage. [/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/news/dell-alienware-alpha-steam-console,27423.html[/url]
That actually sounds pretty shitty.
Is the Graphics card something fantastic? The rest of it seems pretty obsolete.
I'll wait until it's in Beta before I consider a purchase.
I could build a computer equivalent to the Alpha for 300 dollars, maybe a bit more if I didn't have an extra gpu lying around. Seems like a ripoff.
so the I3 version is $549... no mention of the price of the i7 one though, probably means that your going to need a bigger bank account for that
Or I just keep my current PC and use my controller with that while it's plugged into my TV.
Guys, keep in mind this is designed and marketed to a group of people who are not willing or unable to build their own PC. As well it is made by a company, companies need to make a profit.
While I am sure we could all slap an i5 + midrange card and 8GB or ram together, these machines are not marketed to the people currently building their own systems
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;45668591]Guys, keep in mind this is designed and marketed to a group of people who are not willing or unable to build their own PC. As well it is made by a company, companies need to make a profit.
While I am sure we could all slap an i5 + midrange card and 8GB or ram together, these machines are not marketed to the people currently building their own systems[/QUOTE]
If you're not willing to build a pc and are prepared to spend an ungodly amount of money on a decidedly average product they might as well buy a laptop and have it portable (Like me).
Eh, I'd rather get a $600 Asus/Acer laptop but I'm not exactly Alienware's clientele
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45668630]If you're not willing to build a pc and are prepared to spend an ungodly amount of money on a decidedly average product they might as well buy a laptop and have it portable (Like me).[/QUOTE]
However you must understand
1. Not everyone is as technically versed to build a computer
2. Prebuilt laptops are even more inflated in price then their desktop counter parts
3. Assuming everyone has the time to build and learn to build a PC, yes I am aware it can be done in less than 4 hours from start to finish with Build/OS/drivers
4. wants to dick around with the RMA process of failed parts and warranty stuff
You're paying a premium for convince, not for performance.
Just have patience on ebay and garage sale a lot, my current build costs under $400 and can run everything 2012 back max with 40fps minimum.
I just buy all my shit from Overclockers UK and it lasts for fucking years until I need to upgrade something, I ended up building my mates PC for £600 and it still eats most games today maxed out.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;45668566]I could build a computer equivalent to the Alpha for 300 dollars, maybe a bit more if I didn't have an extra gpu lying around. Seems like a ripoff.[/QUOTE]
What a way to underestimate its price, "if I didn't have an extra gpu lying around". Well good thing that this machine comes with its own GPU then. Assuming it's a GTX 750 (since those are the only Maxwell based chips right now), that's close to 400€ worth of hardware in it. Add to that the cost of a Windows license and a X360 controller and it doesn't really seem like much of a ripoff anymore.
Now show me your mythical 300$ build please.
A i3 wont be enough to play @ max
[QUOTE=pebkac;45668816]What a way to underestimate its price, "if I didn't have an extra gpu lying around". Well good thing that this machine comes with its own GPU then. Assuming it's a GTX 750 (since those are the only Maxwell based chips right now), that's close to 400€ worth of hardware in it. Add to that the cost of a Windows license and a X360 controller and it doesn't really seem like much of a ripoff anymore.
Now show me your mythical 300$ build please.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the 100 dollar windows key!
Seriously the Prebuilt vs Build it your own is the same as "why do coffee shops exist when you can brew it yourself". Yes you pay a premium, yes you can make it cheaper yourself, but they still are all over because the ease and convince.
If you're going about "well it's cheaper to build yourself, and here is how!" guess what this machine is not targeted or marketed to you.
um its a steam machine console.
[QUOTE=UnseeNova;45668823]A i3 wont be enough to play @ max[/QUOTE]
Depends on the game hell even a G3258 can carry it's weight
[url]http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-pentium-g3258-dual-core-processor-gaming-performance_145873/7[/url]
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HYNyHx]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HYNyHx/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80623i32100]Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($123.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-dp69edsa0lgp]Cooler Master DP6-9EDSA-0L-GP CPU Cooler[/url] ($7.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah61ms1]Gigabyte GA-H61M-S1 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/url] ($40.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml4gx3m1a1600c9]Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($49.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-0j11285]Hitachi Travelstar Z5K500 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($48.90 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/apex-case-pc389c]Apex PC-389-C ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($19.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-ea380dgreen]Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($48.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Total:[/b] $340.81
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-12 11:21 EDT-0400[/i]
Not counting the GTX 560Ti I have lying around. For OS, I'd use Steam OS as Alienware would. If you'd want something good for less than 500 dollars, build this:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q8CbLk]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q8CbLk/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad760kwohlbox]AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (Purchased For $89.99)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-fm2a75mae35]MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard[/url] (Purchased For $59.91)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbrl]G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] (Purchased For $49.99)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1002fbys]Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (Purchased For $53.94)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-fx785aznl4]XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Core Edition Video Card[/url] (Purchased For $89.99)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-challengeru3]Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (Purchased For $24.99)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m]Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] (Purchased For $39.99)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050]Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url]
[b]Total:[/b] $408.80
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-12 11:24 EDT-0400[/i]
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;45668736]However you must understand
1. Not everyone is as technically versed to build a computer
2. Prebuilt laptops are even more inflated in price then their desktop counter parts
3. Assuming everyone has the time to build and learn to build a PC, yes I am aware it can be done in less than 4 hours from start to finish with Build/OS/drivers
4. wants to dick around with the RMA process of failed parts and warranty stuff
You're paying a premium for convince, not for performance.[/QUOTE]
Thats what I'm saying. But instead of buying this overpriced junk get a beast laptop and game on the go.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;45668898]Depends on the game hell even a G3258 can carry it's weight
[url]http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-pentium-g3258-dual-core-processor-gaming-performance_145873/7[/url][/QUOTE]
Why settle for medium?
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45668973]Thats what I'm saying. But instead of buying this overpriced junk get a beast laptop and game on the go.[/QUOTE]
Can you show me a beast laptop that is less than 550 - 600 dollars. I'm being completely serious and not snide or sarcastic in any way or shape. I'm actually trying to find a decent gaming laptop for my brother who is starting college this year and I think it would make a good gift for him.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;45668924][url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HYNyHx]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HYNyHx/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80623i32100]Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($123.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-dp69edsa0lgp]Cooler Master DP6-9EDSA-0L-GP CPU Cooler[/url] ($7.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah61ms1]Gigabyte GA-H61M-S1 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/url] ($40.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml4gx3m1a1600c9]Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($49.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-0j11285]Hitachi Travelstar Z5K500 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($48.90 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/apex-case-pc389c]Apex PC-389-C ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($19.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-ea380dgreen]Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($48.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Total:[/b] $340.81
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-12 11:21 EDT-0400[/i]
Not counting the GTX 560Ti I have lying around. For OS, I'd use Steam OS as Alienware would.
[/QUOTE]
See, 340$ just to get similar hardware to the Alpha, [B]without[/B] a graphics card. And no, Alienware won't be using SteamOS for this one because it's been delayed. That means another ~100$ for the Windows license. You also forgot about the Xbox 360 controller.
[QUOTE=pebkac;45669020]See, 340$ just to get similar hardware to the Alpha, [B]without[/B] a graphics card. And no, Alienware won't be using SteamOS for this one because it's been delayed. That means another ~100$ for the Windows license. You also forgot about the Xbox 360 controller.[/QUOTE]
If you want to spend a bit more, look at the bottom one I posted.
[QUOTE=Fetret;45668998]Can you show me a beast laptop that is less than 550 - 600 dollars. I'm being completely serious and not snide or sarcastic in any way or shape. I'm actually trying to find a decent gaming laptop for my brother who is starting college this year and I think it would make a good gift for him.[/QUOTE]
Really depends what type of gaming.
If he plays mostly F2P/Source/Blizzard games then you can get one in that price range and it would run those types of games just fine.
If you are thinking of getting him a beast laptop for 550-$600 to play like newer games at 1080p and 60fps then id have to say you wont ever find one for that.
[QUOTE=Fetret;45668998]Can you show me a beast laptop that is less than 550 - 600 dollars. I'm being completely serious and not snide or sarcastic in any way or shape. I'm actually trying to find a decent gaming laptop for my brother who is starting college this year and I think it would make a good gift for him.[/QUOTE]
Hmm you've got there, I'll admit.
For 200 extra you could get an ideapad y500 which will run arma2/arma3 on max settings, skyrim with a fancy AA enb, high res mods on full.
A little over the budget you've outlined though.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;45669030]If you want to spend a bit more, look at the bottom one I posted.[/QUOTE]
I'm not interesting in building another computer as I already have a much better one, and even if I was I'd definitely get something more powerful than this Alienware. I'm just pointing out that it's not really overpriced like many people in this thread are saying, considering the hardware that's in it.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;45668983]Why settle for medium?[/QUOTE]
Because it cost 60 bucks for a 54w CPU, performs like a champ for most games.
I mean if I was still in college where I spent +16 hours a week gaming, I would have sprung for something more but eh.
Running things at MAX is great but I'd rather not have my power bill be 100USD a month
[QUOTE=pebkac;45669070]I'm not interesting in building another computer as I already have a much better one, and even if I was I'd definitely get something more powerful than this Alienware. I'm just pointing out that it's not really overpriced like many people in this thread are saying, considering the hardware that's in it.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention the intel CPU is a 2100, which is 2 generations behind and carries a weak HD 2000 instead of a 4400 or 4600
[url]http://ark.intel.com/products/53422/Intel-Core-i3-2100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_10-GHz[/url]
[QUOTE=pebkac;45669070]I'm not interesting in building another computer as I already have a much better one, and even if I was I'd definitely get something more powerful than this Alienware. I'm just pointing out that it's not really overpriced like many people in this thread are saying, considering the hardware that's in it.[/QUOTE]
The GPU it has is probably pretty shit. The fact you can get _anywhere_ near the build int terms of performance shows that it's really not that good of a deal.
I would like this just for the form factor, however I'm a little worried about the GPU. The fact they would go to sourcing a "custom" GPU suggests that it is either faster or slower than the 750Ti/860M, and I don't see it being faster due to the price.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;45668924][URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HYNyHx"]PCPartPicker part list[/URL] / [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HYNyHx/by_merchant/"]Price breakdown by merchant[/URL]
[B]CPU:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80623i32100"]Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor[/URL] ($123.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[B]CPU Cooler:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-dp69edsa0lgp"]Cooler Master DP6-9EDSA-0L-GP CPU Cooler[/URL] ($7.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[B]Motherboard:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah61ms1"]Gigabyte GA-H61M-S1 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/URL] ($40.98 @ Newegg)
[B]Memory:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml4gx3m1a1600c9"]Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/URL] ($49.99 @ Amazon)
[B]Storage:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-0j11285"]Hitachi Travelstar Z5K500 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive[/URL] ($48.90 @ Amazon)
[B]Case:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/apex-case-pc389c"]Apex PC-389-C ATX Mid Tower Case[/URL] ($19.99 @ Amazon)
[B]Power Supply:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-ea380dgreen"]Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/URL] ($48.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[B]Total:[/B] $340.81
[I]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/I]
[I]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-12 11:21 EDT-0400[/I]
Not counting the GTX 560Ti I have lying around. For OS, I'd use Steam OS as Alienware would. If you'd want something good for less than 500 dollars, build this:
[URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q8CbLk"]PCPartPicker part list[/URL] / [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q8CbLk/by_merchant/"]Price breakdown by merchant[/URL]
[B]CPU:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad760kwohlbox"]AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor[/URL] (Purchased For $89.99)
[B]Motherboard:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-fm2a75mae35"]MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard[/URL] (Purchased For $59.91)
[B]Memory:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbrl"]G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/URL] (Purchased For $49.99)
[B]Storage:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1002fbys"]Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/URL] (Purchased For $53.94)
[B]Video Card:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-fx785aznl4"]XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Core Edition Video Card[/URL] (Purchased For $89.99)
[B]Case:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-challengeru3"]Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case[/URL] (Purchased For $24.99)
[B]Power Supply:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m"]Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/URL] (Purchased For $39.99)
[B]Operating System:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050"]Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/URL]
[B]Total:[/B] $408.80
[I]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/I]
[I]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-12 11:24 EDT-0400[/I][/QUOTE]
I thought steamOS was free? Isn't that what the Alpha is for, considering it's supposed to be a "console"?
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