120,000 attend march in Paris against gay marriage and adoption, as Femen stages pro-gay marriage pr
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[quote=BBC News][B]Tens of thousands of protesters have taken to the streets of Paris over plans to give gay couples in France the right to marry and adopt children.[/B]
Three big marches were converging on the Champs de Mars, next to the Eiffel Tower.
France's Socialist government is planning to change the law this year.
But the demonstrators, backed by the Catholic Church and the right-wing opposition, argue it would undermine an essential building block of society.
The organisers put the number of marchers at 500,000, with demonstrators pouring into Paris by train and bus, carrying placards that read, "We don't want your law, Francois" and "Don't touch my civil code".
But police told French media the figure was 120,000 and one government minister said the turnout was lower than the organisers had predicted. A similar march in November attracted around 100,000 people.
The "Demo for all" event was being led by a charismatic comedian known as Frigide Barjot, who tweeted that the "crowd is immense" and told French TV that gay marriage "makes no sense" because a child should be born to a man and woman.
[B]'Test for president'[/B]
Although France allows civil unions between same-sex couples, Francois Hollande made a pledge to extend their rights part of his presidential campaign.
Centre-right UMP President Jean-Francois Cope said the rally would be a "test" for the president because there were "clearly millions of French people who are probably concerned by this reform".
The far-right National Front is also opposed to the change, although its leader Marine Le Pen stayed away from the march, arguing the issue was a diversion by politicians from France's real problems.
Despite the support of the Church and political right, the organisers are keen to stress their movement is non-political and non-religious, and in no way directed against homosexuals, BBC Paris correspondent Hugh Schofield reports.
An opinion poll of almost 1,000 people published by Le Nouvel Observateur newspaper at the weekend suggested that 56% supported gay marriage, while 50% disapproved of gay adoption.
The poll also said that 52% of those questioned disapproved of the Church's stand against the legislation.
Earlier polls had indicated stronger support for the legalisation of gay marriage.
As the marchers began arriving in the centre of Paris, four Ukrainian activists staged their own protest in St Peter's Square in the Vatican in support of gay rights.
The women from feminist group Femen appeared topless while Pope Benedict recited his traditional Angelus prayer.
Police moved to restrain the activists, one of whom was attacked by a worshipper brandishing an umbrella.[/quote]
[url]http://www.rferl.org/content/vatican-femen-pope-gay-marriage-protest/24822783.html[/url]
[quote=Radio Liberty]Four activists with the Ukrainian feminist organization Femen held a topless protest on St. Peter's Square to protest the Catholic Church's stand against same-sex marriage.
The four women were whisked away by police.
The protest occurred as Pope Benedict XVI was delivering a prayer from his studio overlooking the square.
The prayer was not interrupted.
Femen leader Inna Shevchenko, who was one of the protesters, told journalists, "Today we are here to protest against homophobia."
The demonstration coincided with a massive demonstration in the French capital, Paris, against French President Francois Hollande's plan to legalize gay marriage and allow gay couples to adopt children.
The campaign against Hollande's plan has been spearheaded by Catholic clergy in France.[/quote]
[quote]Despite the support of the Church and political right, the organisers are keen to stress their movement is non-political and non-religious, [B]and in no way directed against homosexuals[/B][/quote]riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
bigots can go eat a dick
I thought france was one of the more liberal places as for a gay acceptance goes? Are they really on the same level as or behind the US?
[QUOTE=_Kent_;39204374]I thought france was one of the more liberal places as for a gay acceptance goes? Are they really on the same level as or behind the US?[/QUOTE]
Gay marriage will happen in France soon, despite the protests. France is on the whole very liberal, but there is still an ultra conservative minority that votes for the National Front every election.
there were two guys handing out flyers for the protest right outside of my school. i just stood next to them the entire time playing boing and zoop and honk sounds on my phone at full volume every time they said something.
[QUOTE=The golden;39204748]"We are upset that other human beings have freedom rights!"
Yeah, these people can fuck [I]RIGHT[/I] off.[/QUOTE]
gay ppl r bad ban gay ppl guys
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[QUOTE=Naaz;39204760][thumb]http://imgkk.com/i/0eb6.jpg[/thumb]Looks like he is enjoying it[/QUOTE]
Thumb tag that shit please
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[QUOTE=J!NX;39204833]Thumb tag that shit please[/QUOTE]Yeah sorry
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Wait crap how do you do thumb tags?
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What kind of police are they? They don't look like standard policemen or riot police.
[QUOTE=_Kent_;39204374]I thought france was one of the more liberal places as for a gay acceptance goes? Are they really on the same level as or behind the US?[/QUOTE]
Even if they were nearly the most liberal country in the world in that regard there's still enough of those jackasses. 120,000 people is a little less than 1/500 of the total population of France. No doubt a fair portion of those people are from out the country as well. The US is much worse unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=teh pirate;39204956][t]http://imgkk.com/i/0eb6.jpg[/t]
What kind of police are they? They don't look like standard policemen or riot police.[/QUOTE]
Photo was taken in the Vatican
That policeman is having himself nice look. How sinful
my only issue with all of this is that I associate the word marriage with christians, therefore "gay marriage" doesn't make much sense for me. I rather see it called a civil union or something else that sounds less religious related.
[QUOTE=Anthracite;39205335]my only issue with all of this is that I associate the word marriage with christians, therefore "gay marriage" doesn't make much sense for me. I rather see it called a civil union or something else that sounds less religious related.[/QUOTE]
It existed long before Christianity existed.
FEMEN are great
though they should probably stop cutting down monuments
[QUOTE=Anthracite;39205335]my only issue with all of this is that I associate the word marriage with christians, therefore "gay marriage" doesn't make much sense for me. I rather see it called a civil union or something else that sounds less religious related.[/QUOTE]
seperate-but-equal is never true
I expect most of the protesters are there protesting against Gay Adoption rather than Gay Marriage.
[QUOTE=Anthracite;39205335]my only issue with all of this is that I associate the word marriage with christians, therefore "gay marriage" doesn't make much sense for me. I rather see it called a civil union or something else that sounds less religious related.[/QUOTE]
because Muslims don't get married
"i hate the word homophobia. it isnt a phobia. you are not afraid. you are an asshole"
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goddamn conservative romanians, why the hell would they bring our flag to a protest, that's how my people think :v:.
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What kind of police are they? They don't look like standard policemen or riot police.[/QUOTE]
Roman Carabinieri.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;39204956][t]http://imgkk.com/i/0eb6.jpg[/t]
What kind of police are they? They don't look like standard policemen or riot police.[/QUOTE]
They're Italian Carabinieri, and like 90% of Italy's many different police forces, like to walk round trying to look important but not doing a fat lot.
You can see in the polls in France that pretty much everyone apart from these conservatives are being tired of this being put as an issue 24/7 on TV/radio/newspaper. So, yeah, don't worry, the bill will pass.
Never heard any intelligent argument from those guys anyway.
Why do people insist on living in the dark ages still? I bet if we were to take all of those health and safety signs down, Darwinism would come into play, and would probably kill most of the bigots off. Sure they are entitled to a view, but its comparable to the black segregation in a way.
I don't want to live in this world anymore.
[QUOTE=Anthracite;39205335]my only issue with all of this is that I associate the word marriage with christians, therefore "gay marriage" doesn't make much sense for me. I rather see it called a civil union or something else that sounds less religious related.[/QUOTE]
Jews get married, Muslims get married, atheists get married
For anyone wondering I think the sign they're holding says "we were all born of a man and a woman"
[QUOTE=Elspin;39207355]For anyone wondering I think the sign they're holding says "we were all born of a man and a woman"[/QUOTE]
So it's the "marriage is for procreation" crowd this time
[QUOTE=Elspin;39207355]For anyone wondering I think the sign they're holding says "we were all born of a man and a woman"[/QUOTE]
I was born in an anime test tube
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;39207499]So it's the "marriage is for procreation" crowd this time[/QUOTE]
I think that their main problem is about adoption, and that they're saying that an adopted kid needs both a mother and a father.
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;39208487]I was born in an anime test tube[/QUOTE]
That explains everything.
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