How to lose friends and alienate colleagues: Show cleavage, study finds

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[QUOTE]How to lose female friends in one sashay on the pool deck: look too good in that [URL="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/how-to-lose-friends-and-alienate-colleagues-show-cleavage-study-finds/article2244817/#"]string bikini[/URL].The scorn of the sexy woman is practically ubiquitous among other women, a new [URL="http://www.media.uottawa.ca/mediaroom/news-details_2477.html"]University of Ottawa study[/URL] has found - and showing too much cleavage may just be the surest way to be ostracized from the female circle, let alone be introduced to anyone’s boyfriend.[h=4]MORE RELATED TO THIS STORY[/h][URL="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/thin-women-get-fatter-paycheques-study/article1747048/"]Thin women get fatter paycheques: study[/URL]
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“We can’t tolerate anyone giving the milk away for free,” quipped psychologist Tracy Vaillancourt, the author of the study, in a Globe and Mail interview. “We are living in a modern context, but we are operating with an old brain. We have this instinctual response to people who defy social conventions in a way that threatens the group.”And women, even in this time of independence and self-expression, still find short skirts and skimpy tops awfully threatening - so much so, they couldn’t resist making catty comments even to total strangers.This was the experiment, published in the current edition of the journal of Aggressive Behaviour : pairs of women were left in a room thinking they were participating in a study on conflict. While they were waiting,[URL="http://www.box.com/s/ffr7f76eimiyil501xhs"]an attractive woman[/URL] wearing provocative clothes entered to talk to another researcher setting up the cameras. The reactions of the women were filmed after she left, and were almost unanimous. “It was so obvious,” said Dr. Vaillancourt, who coded their reactions on a “bitchy” scale.“They were saying thing like, ‘oh, she’s dressed to have sex with her professor,’ or ‘oh, her boobs are about to pop out. They were looking her up and down, and as soon as she leaves the room, they start laughing hysterically.”By comparison, when the same woman carried out the exact same task - but this time dressed in [URL="http://www.box.com/s/v8tj9siu0at6chcbx7rt"]chinos and a high-neck t-shirt[/URL] - almost all participants in the study didn’t even notice her.Dressed too provocatively, “she violated the unwritten rule all women should know about,” said Dr. Vaillancourt, the Canada Research Chair in Children’s Mental Health and Violence Prevention, who hopes the study will help people think about the reasons behind certain reactions and stereotypes. “It’s women who suppress the sexuality of other women.”And don’t think you’d be above it all, she warned. “We are deluding ourselves if we think we are not capable of this reaction.”In a study of 46 women, only two let the skimpy clothes pass without comment.“I think the two who didn’t respond,” said Dr. Vaillancourt, “were checking their blackberries.”[/QUOTE]

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The study:
[URL]http://www.box.com/s/rdthllpbpfuk0g2lqtdt[/URL]

[Simski]

[quote]“We can’t tolerate anyone giving the milk away for free,”[/quote]
Poor choice of words regarding an article about improper display of your mammary glands.

[rosthouse]

Way to ruin the fun for us, psychologists.

[Alec W]

There's a fine line between attractive amount of chest and "bitch stop showing off".

[RB-D2]

Well some of my facebook friends just has cleavage shots after shot after shot after shot.
Kinda gives the impression doesn't it?

[Elecbullet]

[QUOTE=Simski;33427905]Poor choice of words regarding an article about improper display of your mammary glands.[/QUOTE]

I think that was intentional

[DireAvenger]

It is pretty cruel when there's those girls that scream at people who try to date them even though they're showing more skin than a tanning array

[b]GOD JUST STOP BLUE BALLING ME FUCK[/b]

[hakusaro]

At least for me, it's more attractive when there's a middle ground, too little or too much just flat out kills it.

[Erector Beast]

[quote]”In a study of 46 women, only two let the skimpy clothes pass without comment.“I think the two who didn’t respond,” said Dr. Vaillancourt, “were checking their blackberries.”[/quote]

who wouldnt expect this from women, honestly. you never see soap operas or tv dramas about a group of guys spreading rumors and trash talking the sluttiest members of the group, it's all desperate housewives and real world shit

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;33428315]you never see soap operas or tv dramas about a group of guys spreading rumors and trash talking the sluttiest members of the group[/QUOTE]

yeah instead they punch each other and pass out after drinking kegs of beer

stereotypes are lame bro

[ewitwins]

Hey, I'll be their friend instead ;)

[Hidole555]

[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;33428315]who wouldnt expect this from women, honestly. you never see soap operas or tv dramas about a group of guys spreading rumors and trash talking the sluttiest members of the group, it's all desperate housewives and real world shit[/QUOTE]

It would pretty much go like this
"Dude, put some clothes on."
"K"

[LunchboxOfDoom]

[QUOTE=nicatronTg;33428287]At least for me, it's more attractive when there's a middle ground, too little or too much just flat out kills it.[/QUOTE]

Indeed it is so; the Goldilocks Principle applies to planets as much as it does to breasts.

[Greenen72]

In my experience, it applies to men more than women

[Clementine]

[QUOTE=thisispain;33428334]yeah instead they punch each other and pass out after drinking kegs of beer

stereotypes are lame bro[/QUOTE]

Sometimes dude, I just don't even know how you super liberals operate, I mean I try to be pretty liberal too but I just don't get it. It's not like just because it's a "stereotype" that it isn't true.

[Megafan]

[QUOTE=Clementine;33428615]Sometimes dude, I just don't even know how you super liberals operate, I mean I try to be pretty liberal too but I just don't get it. It's not like just because it's a "stereotype" that it isn't true.[/QUOTE]

Uh, it depends what you mean by "true". Because if you think that it just across the board happens, you're generalizing to an insane degree.

[Ogris]

What if their boyfriend is bi? Are they bitchy to men as well?

[sHiBaN]

This is really cool.

I've noticed this before as I've used my girlfriend as some sort of experimental subject. She works at a retail store in which she was always surrounded by equally-beautiful women. I've let her wear both clothing that could be perceived as "voluptuous" or "morally moderate."

As it turned out, which was obvious to me, was that she garners the unwanted attention of her male coworkers while receiving scorn from her female counterparts when wearing outgoing clothing. On the other hand, when she wears comfortable sweater-shirts and a simple, yet "cute" attire, it is the complete opposite. This time, I let her wear a bit of make up and style her hair to look gorgeous but the outfit, simple; turtle neck sweater, jeans and pumps. The reaction was quite remarkable indeed. Instead of annoyance from her female coworkers, they were fawning over her. She received a number of compliments and her manager even told her she looked cute. Her hot manager gave her a hug and a squeeze even.

I believe it's a matter of group dominance. Women seem to scorn at other women that attract attention. However, a self-contained, dominant female with a sensible style is more acceptable, even attractive to the same-sex; I've seen my girlfriend's female coworkers gain a crush on her, they even invite her to parties now!

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[QUOTE=Bobv2;33442916]Yep, someone getting torn a new one because he's dumb and apparently has to "let" his girlfriend do stuff.

Rampant fucking misogyny.[/QUOTE]

Geeze, I received more flak than I thought

Sorry for my bad English, I'm working on it. Inadequate wording made me sound like an asshat huh?

Take it with a grain of salt, my girlfriend works in the fashion industry and she experiments with her clothing quite often. For some damage control, she told me all this and it made me feel happy she's able to make friends at her new job :smile:

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;33429008]This is really cool.

I've noticed this before as [B]I've used my girlfriend as some sort of experimental subject[/B]. She works at a retail store in which she was always surrounded by equally-beautiful women. [B]I've let her[/B] wear both clothing that could be perceived as "voluptuous" or "morally moderate."

As it turned out, which was obvious to me, was that she garners the unwanted attention of her male coworkers while receiving scorn from her female counterparts when wearing outgoing clothing. On the other hand, when she wears comfortable sweater-shirts and a simple, yet "cute" attire, it is the complete opposite. This time, [B]I let her[/B] wear a bit of make up and style her hair to look gorgeous but the outfit, simple; turtle neck sweater, jeans and pumps. The reaction was quite remarkable indeed. Instead of annoyance from her female coworkers, they were fawning over her. She received a number of compliments and her manager even told her she looked cute. Her hot manager gave her a hug and a squeeze even.

I believe it's a matter of group dominance. Women seem to scorn at other women that attract attention. However, a self-contained, dominant female with a sensible style is more acceptable, even attractive to the same-sex; I've seen my girlfriend's female coworkers gain a crush on her, they even invite her to parties now![/QUOTE]

Uhh.

[snivelak]

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;33429008]This is really cool.

I've noticed this before as I've used my girlfriend as some sort of experimental subject. She works at a retail store in which she was always surrounded by equally-beautiful women. I've let her wear both clothing that could be perceived as "voluptuous" or "morally moderate."

As it turned out, which was obvious to me, was that she garners the unwanted attention of her male coworkers while receiving scorn from her female counterparts when wearing outgoing clothing. On the other hand, when she wears comfortable sweater-shirts and a simple, yet "cute" attire, it is the complete opposite. This time, I let her wear a bit of make up and style her hair to look gorgeous but the outfit, simple; turtle neck sweater, jeans and pumps. The reaction was quite remarkable indeed. Instead of annoyance from her female coworkers, they were fawning over her. She received a number of compliments and her manager even told her she looked cute. Her hot manager gave her a hug and a squeeze even.

I believe it's a matter of group dominance. Women seem to scorn at other women that attract attention. However, a self-contained, dominant female with a sensible style is more acceptable, even attractive to the same-sex; I've seen my girlfriend's female coworkers gain a crush on her, they even invite her to parties now![/QUOTE]

what

[BackflipHatchet]

[QUOTE=ZeroS;33428163]Well some of my facebook friends just has cleavage shots after shot after shot after shot.
Kinda gives the impression doesn't it?[/QUOTE]

You're going to have to link these profiles

For further research

[editline]25th November 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;33429008]Her hot manager gave her a hug and a squeeze even.

[/QUOTE]

uhh

[Matrix374]

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;33429008]This is really cool.

I've noticed this before as I've used my girlfriend as some sort of experimental subject. She works at a retail store in which she was always surrounded by equally-beautiful women. I've let her wear both clothing that could be perceived as "voluptuous" or "morally moderate."

As it turned out, which was obvious to me, was that she garners the unwanted attention of her male coworkers while receiving scorn from her female counterparts when wearing outgoing clothing. On the other hand, when she wears comfortable sweater-shirts and a simple, yet "cute" attire, it is the complete opposite. This time, I let her wear a bit of make up and style her hair to look gorgeous but the outfit, simple; turtle neck sweater, jeans and pumps. The reaction was quite remarkable indeed. Instead of annoyance from her female coworkers, they were fawning over her. She received a number of compliments and her manager even told her she looked cute. Her hot manager gave her a hug and a squeeze even.

I believe it's a matter of group dominance. Women seem to scorn at other women that attract attention. However, a self-contained, dominant female with a sensible style is more acceptable, even attractive to the same-sex; I've seen my girlfriend's female coworkers gain a crush on her, they even invite her to parties now![/QUOTE]

uhhhhhh

[Robber]

[QUOTE=BldrGyMnGy;33428141]There's a fine line between attractive amount of chest and "bitch stop showing off".[/QUOTE]
No, there's one rule: "The more [skin], the better".

[CatFodder]

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;33429008]This is really cool.

I've noticed this before as I've used my girlfriend as some sort of experimental subject. She works at a retail store in which she was always surrounded by equally-beautiful women. I've let her wear both clothing that could be perceived as "voluptuous" or "morally moderate."

As it turned out, which was obvious to me, was that she garners the unwanted attention of her male coworkers while receiving scorn from her female counterparts when wearing outgoing clothing. On the other hand, when she wears comfortable sweater-shirts and a simple, yet "cute" attire, it is the complete opposite. This time, I let her wear a bit of make up and style her hair to look gorgeous but the outfit, simple; turtle neck sweater, jeans and pumps. The reaction was quite remarkable indeed. Instead of annoyance from her female coworkers, they were fawning over her. She received a number of compliments and her manager even told her she looked cute. Her hot manager gave her a hug and a squeeze even.

I believe it's a matter of group dominance. Women seem to scorn at other women that attract attention. However, a self-contained, dominant female with a sensible style is more acceptable, even attractive to the same-sex; I've seen my girlfriend's female coworkers gain a crush on her, they even invite her to parties now![/QUOTE]

um did she have any say in this

[zerothefallen]

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;33429008]This is really cool.

I've noticed this before as I've used my girlfriend as some sort of experimental subject. She works at a retail store in which she was always surrounded by equally-beautiful women. I've let her wear both clothing that could be perceived as "voluptuous" or "morally moderate."

As it turned out, which was obvious to me, was that she garners the unwanted attention of her male coworkers while receiving scorn from her female counterparts when wearing outgoing clothing. On the other hand, when she wears comfortable sweater-shirts and a simple, yet "cute" attire, it is the complete opposite. This time, I let her wear a bit of make up and style her hair to look gorgeous but the outfit, simple; turtle neck sweater, jeans and pumps. The reaction was quite remarkable indeed. Instead of annoyance from her female coworkers, they were fawning over her. She received a number of compliments and her manager even told her she looked cute. Her hot manager gave her a hug and a squeeze even.

I believe it's a matter of group dominance. Women seem to scorn at other women that attract attention. However, a self-contained, dominant female with a sensible style is more acceptable, even attractive to the same-sex; I've seen my girlfriend's female coworkers gain a crush on her, they even invite her to parties now![/QUOTE]

do u have a slave

[DrBreen]

[QUOTE=sHiBaN;33429008]This is really cool.

I've noticed this before as I've used my girlfriend as some sort of experimental subject. She works at a retail store in which she was always surrounded by equally-beautiful women. I've let her wear both clothing that could be perceived as "voluptuous" or "morally moderate."

As it turned out, which was obvious to me, was that she garners the unwanted attention of her male coworkers while receiving scorn from her female counterparts when wearing outgoing clothing. On the other hand, when she wears comfortable sweater-shirts and a simple, yet "cute" attire, it is the complete opposite. This time, I let her wear a bit of make up and style her hair to look gorgeous but the outfit, simple; turtle neck sweater, jeans and pumps. The reaction was quite remarkable indeed. Instead of annoyance from her female coworkers, they were fawning over her. She received a number of compliments and her manager even told her she looked cute. Her hot manager gave her a hug and a squeeze even.

I believe it's a matter of group dominance. Women seem to scorn at other women that attract attention. However, a self-contained, dominant female with a sensible style is more acceptable, even attractive to the same-sex; I've seen my girlfriend's female coworkers gain a crush on her, they even invite her to parties now![/QUOTE]

You let her? what are you, her feudal sexual master or something?

jeez

[KevBeans]

Personally, it doesn't have to be skin showing either. It works wonders on the mind when a girl is wearing something that only so scantly shows off skin but which is so well designed that it brings the chest out anyway, leaving more to your imagination.

I get itchy fingers every time and just want to run my hands all over my girlfriend like a nasty sex-predator every time she wears something "stylishly provocative"...

[QUOTE=DrBreen;33430157]You let her? what are you, her feudal sexual master or something?

jeez[/QUOTE]

It's 99% obvious she willingly participated in this experiment and was not forced. Stop heaping overlord accusations.

[Jund]

[QUOTE=just-a-boy;33430165]It's 99% obvious she willingly participated in this experiment and was not forced. Stop heaping overlord accusations.[/QUOTE]

You shouldn't "let" your partner do anything...

[editline]25th November 2011[/editline]

There's a difference between "my girlfriend agreed to take part in" and "I used my girlfriend as"

[Glorbo]

Reminds me of this-
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uscmRI9ZrE[/media]

[yawmwen]

[QUOTE=DireAvenger;33428272]It is pretty cruel when there's those girls that scream at people who try to date them even though they're showing more skin than a tanning array

[b]GOD JUST STOP BLUE BALLING ME FUCK[/b][/QUOTE]

Dragging a girl into your basement isn't "trying to date them".

For real, though. Who the fuck screams at someone trying to date them? I've never been screamed at. In fact, if the girl isn't interested, she is generally polite enough to let you down in the easiest way possible.