• Black Lives Matter Protesters shut down Airport Traffic, State Patrol rushing to break it up
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[quote]A protest that started at the Mall of America has moved to Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, where protests have blocked roads. Airport officials say access to one of two terminals has been blocked by protesters, causing significant traffic backups on nearby roads. Some protesters took a light-rail train to the airport after the mall was closed by police. Traffic cameras for the state highway department show traffic at a virtual standstill leading to and from the state's main airport. The Mall of America and the airport are only a few miles apart. Protesters left the nation's largest mall shortly after a rally began Wednesday afternoon, chanting for justice. The protest was organized by Black Lives Matter activists.[/quote] [url=http://kstp.com/news/stories/s4000149.shtml]Source[/url]
Alright, i'm all for a protest getting the message out or doing whatever they do, but don't fucking disrupt everyones lives. All you're doing is making people bitter towards you and your cause.
Wasn't this one of the reasons the Occupy Protests failed?: being leaderless and disrupting normal businesses not related to what you are protesting?
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;49376805]Alright, i'm all for a protest getting the message out or doing whatever they do, but don't fucking disrupt everyones lives. [B]All you're doing is making people bitter towards you and your cause.[/B][/QUOTE] I read this and felt a surge of hope that some of them rush out on to the runway and lose a battle with an incoming widebody airliner that's on final approach, so yeah you're probably fucking spot-on with that one. I'm sick and tired of these dumb motherfuckers, if you want to protest this shit go where there's actually a real fucking problem because Minneapolis is [I]extremely[/I] diverse and accommodating. [editline]23rd December 2015[/editline] I'm not sorry to say there isn't a lot of crazy race-related crimes and unrest in the Twin Cities or even in Minnesota in general. I mean [I]fuck[/I] we have a massive Somali population that's universally despised by everyone else and nothing materializes out of that aside from the FBI kicking down doors when they're supporting ISIS. Pack up your shit and go somewhere where a protest is needed if you feel you need to protest, don't fuck up everyone else's day here because the vast majority of Minnesotans were already on your side before you started shutting down 35W and now the fucking AIRPORT.
Shit like this is exactly why they're getting nowhere. They need to smarten the fuck up.
They went right past civil disobediance to disrupting society. BLM will fall apart soon at this rate.
I can't imiagine how livid I would be if these assholes made me miss my flight
Isn't the point of protest to disrupt others so that they're forced to acknowledge your existence? I mean, people sometimes bring up MLK, but sit ins and such that that civil rights movement utilized disrupted people's lives. At least this is slightly better than blocking a highway, where there's a risk of people dying due to an inability to get to the hospital and such.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49377018]Isn't the point of protest to disrupt others so that they're forced to acknowledge your existence? I mean, people sometimes bring up MLK, but sit ins and such that that civil rights movement utilized disrupted people's lives. At least this is slightly better than blocking a highway, where there's a risk of people dying due to an inability to get to the hospital and such.[/QUOTE] I heard a desperate radio call in of someones family member dying across the country and that they couldn't miss their flight.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49377018]Isn't the point of protest to disrupt others so that they're forced to acknowledge your existence?[/QUOTE] Bad publicity is not good publicity. Sure Black Lives Matter could for example, invade Emergency rooms all across the country to get a ton of attention but thats a bad idea.
I figured the point of civil disobedience was to cause disruptions [B]in places relevant to where discrimination occurs[/B]. For instance, the sit-ins in restaurants and buses were places where black people were forbidden or segregated prior to the Civil Rights movement. Is the airport discriminating against people of color? I mean, other than the TSA. Wouldn't a police station or a courthouse be a better place for a disruption?
[QUOTE=ChristopherB;49377101] Wouldn't a police station or a courthouse be a better place for a disruption?[/QUOTE] But that would require thinking... from the organization who burnt their own city down
Run them the fuck over.
Remember that these people are the types that will attack fucking anything everywhere for no good reason at all, the same type of people that ran into a slowly moving car to claim that he ran them over, all over a poop "swastika" that didnt even look like a swastika, but more like a poorly drawn L.
They got shutout of the MOA real quick...so they got on the train and went to the airport...
[QUOTE=Code3Response;49377491]They got shutout of the MOA real quick...so they got on the train and went to the airport...[/QUOTE] Next stop, Walmart!
I hate the BLM so must because it's so stupid.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49377018]Isn't the point of protest to disrupt others so that they're forced to acknowledge your existence? I mean, people sometimes bring up MLK, but sit ins and such that that civil rights movement utilized disrupted people's lives. At least this is slightly better than blocking a highway, where there's a risk of people dying due to an inability to get to the hospital and such.[/QUOTE] If they want people to help fight their cause or sympathize with them then they shouldn't be disrupting other people's lives. Really if these people actually cared about what they were preaching they'd put some thought into it.
And of course people continue to do no research and lap up the idea that BLM is just a bunch of rowdy idiots who constantly disrupt anybody and anything despite the fact that the majority of BLM protests are actually just simple peaceful protests. Sensationalist Headlines really has a problem recently in the fact that a lot of members here have a reactionary mindset (Psychological kind not political) and don't look past the article or even headline in some cases. It's kind of ironic if you think about it because this section was originally meant for us to make fun of the headlines but now we are the believers.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49377729]And of course people continue to do no research and lap up the idea that BLM is just a bunch of rowdy idiots who constantly disrupt anybody and anything despite the fact that the majority of BLM protests are actually just simple peaceful protests. Sensationalist Headlines really has a problem recently in the fact that a lot of members here have a reactionary mindset (Psychological kind not political) and don't look past the article or even headline in some cases. It's kind of ironic if you think about it because this section was originally meant for us to make fun of the headlines and their believers but now we are the believers.[/QUOTE] well we all know how the media works, what'll get more ratings? Peaceful protests or shitbags blocking off the airport? Most people only know about assholes like these. If people constantly only hear about black lives matter in this context, yeah people will start to hate them
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49377018]Isn't the point of protest to disrupt others so that they're forced to acknowledge your existence? I mean, people sometimes bring up MLK, but sit ins and such that that civil rights movement utilized disrupted people's lives. At least this is slightly better than blocking a highway, where there's a risk of people dying due to an inability to get to the hospital and such.[/QUOTE] Sad puppy commercials don't make me want to donate to the Humane Society. Ruining my day doesn't make me want to give a shit about your cause. It kinda almost does the opposite.
Yeah, let's do it during the Christmas week too, where people missing flights is actually some serious shit. They do the exact opposite of what would get people to be interested in their cause. Pissing people off is not a way to garner good support.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;49377778]well we all know how the media works, what'll get more ratings? Peaceful protests or shitbags blocking off the airport? Most people only know about assholes like these. If people constantly only hear about black lives matter in this context, yeah people will start to hate them[/QUOTE] Yeah, I suppose that is the problem with leaderless movements. There's no person with specific beliefs to rally behind, so the extremists who do the outrageous things become the speakers for the group. It still doesn't excuse people for not looking into it further and hating an entire movement because of what a small portion of that group does. It's the same problem as Gamergate, where a bunch of assholes who associate themselves with the movement are harassing women so the the media only picks up on that and not the actual goals of the movement.
[QUOTE=kapin_krunch;49377788]Yeah, let's do it during the Christmas week too, where people missing flights is actually some serious shit. They do the exact opposite of what would get people to be interested in their cause. Pissing people off is not a way to garner good support.[/QUOTE] Eventually someone will be smart enough to present a court case suing BLM for stuff like that.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;49377813]Eventually someone will be smart enough to present a court case suing BLM for stuff like that.[/QUOTE] I'm not really sure they could because BLM isn't an organization, just a group of people doing stuff. Maybe you could sue the individual people that are at that protest?
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49376934]They went right past civil disobediance to disrupting society. BLM will fall apart soon at this rate.[/QUOTE] Something needs to be made abundantly clear: [B]the point of protesting is to disrupt.[/B] People in this thread saying "you won't get support if you disrupt stuff!" lack the capacity to think critically. I don't agree with this protest, since it seems reactionary and unrelated to the actual issue at hand, but the idea online that protests [i]should not disrupt anything at all[/i] is absurd. The [i]point[/i] of direct action during the civil rights era was [i]the disruption of commerce[/i]. Montgomery Bus Boycotts? Disrupted the bus lines and lost them so much money that they had to change their policies. Sit-ins? Disrupted restaurants that discriminated and lost them a ton of money by preventing people from dining there. Disruption is the [i]purpose[/i] of protest. Arguing that "you can't disrupt stuff! go to designated free speech protest zone 3 if you want to complain about injustices!" is fucking idiotic and it's so widespread on the internet I don't even know how to respond. Disruption is [i]necessarily part of protesting[/i]. [editline]23rd December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;49377778]well we all know how the media works, what'll get more ratings? Peaceful protests or shitbags blocking off the airport? Most people only know about assholes like these. If people constantly only hear about black lives matter in this context, yeah people will start to hate them[/QUOTE] What is not peaceful about blocking off the airports? We have different definitions of peaceful. In my mind, I think [i]not being violent[/i]. In your mind, you think that it means [i]literally not doing anything but standing on sidewalks holding signs[/i]. Protests are inherently disruptive. This is a peaceful protest - they're not marching on the airports with pitchforks and machine guns. [editline]23rd December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=0x0000000C;49377454]Run them the fuck over.[/QUOTE] Are you fucking serious? Murder people because they're inconveniencing you and you don't agree with their message? Really? I suppose we should just gun down jaywalkers for inconveniencing us, right? Fuck out of here. Literally no different than someone during the 60's saying "beat the shit out of them and throw them out of the restaurant" when they were doing sit-ins. They're preventing you from getting your flight/meal! They deserve it! What assholes! Kill them all, fuckers!
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49377904]Are you fucking serious? Murder people because they're inconveniencing you and you don't agree with their message? Really? I suppose we should just gun down jaywalkers for inconveniencing us, right? Fuck out of here. Literally no different than someone during the 60's saying "beat the shit out of them and throw them out of the restaurant" when they were doing sit-ins. They're preventing you from getting your flight/meal! They deserve it! What assholes! Kill them all, fuckers![/QUOTE] Yeah... I'm fairly certain he wasn't serious
yeah but disrupting the buses and diners were actually relevant to their cause. remind me again the last time an airport gunned down a black dude?
You've been told this before, Isak, but the point of protesting as an event is not to disrupt. You're flat out wrong in your belief. A protest is designed to bring awareness to some issue, disruption may be the method used, but is not the only one. Protesting shit irrelevant to your overall issue doesn't do much good, and protesting in a way that makes the people you want to pay attention actively dislike you not only does no good, but actually hurts your cause because people associate your cause with your stupidity.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49377904]Something needs to be made abundantly clear: [B]the point of protesting is to disrupt.[/B] People in this thread saying "you won't get support if you disrupt stuff!" lack the capacity to think critically. I don't agree with this protest, since it seems reactionary and unrelated to the actual issue at hand, but the idea online that protests [i]should not disrupt anything at all[/i] is absurd. The [i]point[/i] of direct action during the civil rights era was [i]the disruption of commerce[/i]. Montgomery Bus Boycotts? Disrupted the bus lines and lost them so much money that they had to change their policies. Sit-ins? Disrupted restaurants that discriminated and lost them a ton of money by preventing people from dining there. Disruption is the [i]purpose[/i] of protest. Arguing that "you can't disrupt stuff! go to designated free speech protest zone 3 if you want to complain about injustices!" is fucking idiotic and it's so widespread on the internet I don't even know how to respond. Disruption is [i]necessarily part of protesting[/i]. [editline]23rd December 2015[/editline] What is not peaceful about blocking off the airports? We have different definitions of peaceful. In my mind, I think [i]not being violent[/i]. In your mind, you think that it means [i]literally not doing anything but standing on sidewalks holding signs[/i]. Protests are inherently disruptive. This is a peaceful protest - they're not marching on the airports with pitchforks and machine guns. [editline]23rd December 2015[/editline] Are you fucking serious? Murder people because they're inconveniencing you and you don't agree with their message? Really? I suppose we should just gun down jaywalkers for inconveniencing us, right? Fuck out of here. Literally no different than someone during the 60's saying "beat the shit out of them and throw them out of the restaurant" when they were doing sit-ins. They're preventing you from getting your flight/meal! They deserve it! What assholes! Kill them all, fuckers![/QUOTE] Do you[I] really [/I]understand the difference between sit-ins / the bus boycott movement and fucking shit up at an airport? It's that the airlines have fuck all to do with their shitty fucking movement. They disrupted the bus lines because of the bus line's practices, they disrupted restaurants because of the restaurant's practices. There was a set goal and they accomplished it. The sit-ins and the bus boycotts were 100% legitimate protests and should be hailed as the proper way to fight inequality. This protest is absolutely bullshit. And statistically speaking, the entire BLM movement is bullshit.
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