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"We are only included in January but 2017 promises to be Nintendo's year. Already now we see that Nintendo Switch has more advanced bookings and tact better than the Playstation 4 release! The first shipment to release in March is already fully booked, but we recommend that you stand in line for the coveted console, to ensure allocation among the supplies that come in days and weeks after the release date."[/quote]
Source: [url]https://www.facebook.com/184635401558095/posts/1390566550964968[/url]
That's particularly impressive given Nintendo's artificial scarcity.
But will anyone get one aside from scalpers?
ill get one if they improve their online activity, im happy to pay for a subscription to play online but 2 tites a month with them both being removed from my library is fucking bullshit
PSN and XBL give me two free games (Xbox gives 3 if you count that xbone users get x360's game that supports the emulator) and some good deals which is great, at least im getting some of my moneys worth, not a stupid paywall
it'll probably improve a year later but for now, ill just play it at a mates house and wait
I'm starting to think that people forget their values if it's for something they like.
[B]Never, ever pre-order shit.[/B] I've made that mistake too many times and I've learned from it.
Haven't so many people on Facepunch been up in arms about preordring? Where are they in the Nintendo crowd?
[QUOTE=Lolkork;51718971]it costs $420 here.[/QUOTE]
Still fifty dollars less than here.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51718963]But will anyone get one aside from scalpers?[/QUOTE]
This would make sense if it was a small amount of consoles, but since it surpassed PS4, chances are it's not going to be Scalpers as the majority.
[QUOTE=Reds;51718951]That's particularly impressive given Nintendo's artificial scarcity.[/QUOTE]
is there any proof of this?
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51718978]I'm starting to think that people forget their values if it's for something they like.
[B]Never, ever pre-order shit.[/B] I've made that mistake too many times and I've learned from it.
Haven't so many people on Facepunch been up in arms about preordring? Where are they in the Nintendo crowd?[/QUOTE]
I never had a problem pre-ordering, I only pre-order the things I really want, and know that will deliver.
So far Nintendo has delivered.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51718978]I'm starting to think that people forget their values if it's for something they like.
[B]Never, ever pre-order shit.[/B] I've made that mistake too many times and I've learned from it.
Haven't so many people on Facepunch been up in arms about preordring? Where are they in the Nintendo crowd?[/QUOTE]
Because a console is not a game. A game might suck, or be busted, but you know exactly what you're getting when you buy the console. The only thing to worry about is whether or not it will continue to have games for it, which is an entirely separate matter.
Also, how come you spaced out your lines so much? That's an odd thing to do.
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[QUOTE=Lolkork;51718992]470 aud or usd?[/QUOTE]
AUD. 300 USD translates to 400 AUD, but then we get charged another seventy dollars for living in Australia.
So if you're saying it costs $420 in USD before being converted into your local currency, you win. I probably shouldn't have questioned it, you guys and similar countries always get shafted really hard.
[QUOTE=Reds;51718994]Because a console is not a game. A game might suck, or be busted, but you know exactly what you're getting when you buy the console. The only thing to worry about is whether or not it will continue to have games for it, which is an entirely separate matter.
Also, how come you spaced out your sentences so much? That's quite odd.[/QUOTE]
Consoles can be a waste of money initially if there's barely any games or support for it. If it turns out to have problems with hardware of software it's a waste of money entirely.
I spaced out the sentences to better distinguish them.
I dont have a source but i remember reggie stressing that there will be no artificial scarcity with the Switch, not sure if that's true or not
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51718998]Consoles can be a waste of money initially if there's barely any games or support for it. If it turns out to have problems with hardware of software it's a waste of money entirely.
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It's still not a very comparable example. When people advocate against pre-ordering a game, the alternative proposed is "wait a day/week/month to see how the game pans out so you can make an informed decision".
With a console, unless it's a bomb at launch you have to wait like a year to see how things turn out. So whether you pre-order it or buy it three months down the line doesn't really matter a whole lot, you instead have to play the long game.
Ive been very satisfied with every Nintendo product ive ever gotten and never had buyers regret, I'm very confident that nintendo will deliver.
[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;51718984]is there any proof of this?[/QUOTE]
I've seen people complaining a lot about retailers running out of Switches very quickly, but I will admit that I personally cannot confirm if that's Nintendo's fault or just overwhelming demand.
But in the defence of the statement I pulled out of my ass, Nintendo just did it with the NES Classic.
[url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/01/12/nintendos-limited-switch-pre-order-gimmick-is-just-plain-silly/#11583be62fdc]There is this article.[/url] I don't know if it's still relevant though.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51718978]I'm starting to think that people forget their values if it's for something they like.
[B]Never, ever pre-order shit.[/B] I've made that mistake too many times and I've learned from it.
Haven't so many people on Facepunch been up in arms about preordring? Where are they in the Nintendo crowd?[/QUOTE]
except with a console i might have to wait months before nintendo restocks them in my region and if i don't like it the resale value will probably be larger than retail and i'll make a profit.
preordering hardware is a pretty safe bet and isn't really comparable to preordering games.
preordering games is a way for the developer and publisher to generate revenue before people actually get to touch the game for no real reason whatsoever. most if not all games are available digitally these days so there's no difference between me ordering a game a month before it comes out or a few hours after it's out and i've read a few reviews (aside from preorder specific dlc or content which is bullshit)
preordering a console is pretty much necessary if you want to have that device on day one and don't want to wait for a restock.
plus, nintendo have never really failed to deliver on the hardware so it's a pretty safe bet.
I pre ordered the moment they showed zelda as a launch title, it's the only game series that's gotten me to buy a gamecube, wii and 3ds
[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;51718984]is there any proof of this?[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-denies-artificial-ps4-scarcity-rumors/1100-6416748/]Sony was accused of the same thing when the PS4 launched[/url], and again way back in 2002 when the [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2002/03/19/ps2-memory-cards-in-short-supply]memory cards[/url] shortage happened. I think it comes up everytime a new console is launched, and that the supplier is intentionally under-supplying to create hype.
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Here's another article about the [url=http://www.seattlepi.com/business/article/Questions-surround-Xbox-360-shortage-1187822.php]360 launch[/url].
[QUOTE=DatHarry;51719025]except with a console i might have to wait months before nintendo restocks them in my region and if i don't like it the resale value will probably be larger than retail and i'll make a profit.
preordering hardware is a pretty safe bet and isn't really comparable to preordering games.
preordering games is a way for the developer and publisher to generate revenue before people actually get to touch the game for no real reason whatsoever. most if not all games are available digitally these days so there's no difference between me ordering a game a month before it comes out or a few hours after it's out and i've read a few reviews (aside from preorder specific dlc or content which is bullshit)
preordering a console is pretty much necessary if you want to have that device on day one and don't want to wait for a restock.
plus, nintendo have never really failed to deliver on the hardware so it's a pretty safe bet.[/QUOTE]
Didn't think about it this way before.
I'd still exercise caution though.
I bet the switch is gonna end up like every other console for me where for the first few months I have it I use it a lot then never touch the thing.
[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;51718984]is there any proof of this?[/QUOTE]
It's a well known shitty business practice that isn't hard to figure out and is not exclusive to Nintendo or the console market.
Pre-ordering a new console with like 6 launch titles and a questionable future instead of buying a PS4 with a decent library of games is a huge gamble, Swedes are weird
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;51719286]Pre-ordering a new console with like 6 launch titles and a questionable future instead of buying a PS4 with a decent library of games is a huge gamble, Swedes are weird[/QUOTE]
I think you can say that about any new console launch, why get a ps3 when a ps2 has a decent library, why get a 360 when the xbox has a decent library etc.
But I guess that's more of a console problem than a PC one seeing as you can still easily play a lot of older pc games compared to consoles where you have to wait for backward compatability, but that's if it even happens.
Seeing how many consoles were up for pre-order at my local Gamestop (24, for a location in a small town), and how some others had more than that even, I'm going to say that Nintendo is at least trying to not invoke some sort of "artificial scarcity" with the Switch.
Also, seeing as they're wanting to hit 2 million units or more sold within the first month, I don't think artificial scarcity would benefit them in that regard. I would think that they'd want to have as many consoles in stores as possible. And with the rather mixed perception of the Switch since the event, you'd want to make sure that you have some stock in stores so that the customer who's on the fence about buying one doesn't second guess their self due to having no way to get the system.
I could very well be wrong, but we'll just have to see how things play out over time.
I am glad to see it's doing well in Scandinavia with the preorders. I hope everyone who preordered gets a Switch for release, but due to the stupid artificial scarcity issue with Nintendo. I have a feeling a lot of them will not get their preordered Switch on time at all.
I have a feeling Nintendo will definitely not see the demand for the machine at launch and will apologize and give some PR statements afterwards.
It's really disappointing, but we have to sacrifice something for our nostalgia and in that case it's to deal with terrible japanese business practices.
Then again, maybe it's smart this time. Considering none of us actually know the demand it might be safe to say that their opinion of going for 2 million at launch is a good starting point before manufacturing more.
I'm happy to see the demand in my neighbours country though! Here it seems that people are less enthusiastic for the Nintendo Switch. So that's all well and good for any Norwegians wanting the console.
Nintendo's always been pretty big over here so no surprise really. I think we was one of the first countries to buy in Game & Watch consoles too if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=Reds;51719005]It's still not a very comparable example. When people advocate against pre-ordering a game, the alternative proposed is "wait a day/week/month to see how the game pans out so you can make an informed decision".
With a console, unless it's a bomb at launch you have to wait like a year to see how things turn out. So whether you pre-order it or buy it three months down the line doesn't really matter a whole lot, you instead have to play the long game.[/QUOTE]
This is true, but it still reinforces the corporate mentality of selling something before it's out or even done.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;51719861]This is true, but it still reinforces the corporate mentality of selling something before it's out or even done.[/QUOTE]
Pre-ordering something that has limited stock and high demand that won't be restocked for a while makes practical sense because you're trying to make sure you can actually get one, as opposed to ordering an often digital product which is utterly meaningless because it saves you little time.
Norway still has plenty in stock, or at least the retailer I tend to use do (32 gray, 100+ Neon). So I don't know if interest is somehow lower here, or if our retailers got to order more units then usual.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51718978]I'm starting to think that people forget their values if it's for something they like.
[B]Never, ever pre-order shit.[/B] I've made that mistake too many times and I've learned from it.
Haven't so many people on Facepunch been up in arms about preordring? Where are they in the Nintendo crowd?[/QUOTE]
I've always considered Nintendo consoles an exception to the rule. I normally avoid preordering anything but like, I'm gonna get the latest Nintendo console [I]anyway.[/I] Might as well preorder it. Not like I can play Zelda on anything else.
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