I'm ever thankful I stopped watching this section of youtube.
How can you trust anything he says when his summary is doctored and presented wrongly on purpose?
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;52006383]How can you trust anything he says when his summary is doctored and presented wrongly on purpose?[/QUOTE]
Trust what? The facts that he showed in the video?
People went out and complained to playtonic, playtonic removes Jon from the project, and then Team 17 shits on the man who got the game popular. Not really seeing the distortion that your mentioning
[QUOTE=Shaohs;52006402]Trust what? The facts that he showed in the video?
People went out and complained to playtonic, playtonic removes Jon from the project, and then Team 17 shits on the man who got the game popular. Not really seeing the distortion that your mentioning[/QUOTE]
The man who got the game popular? HA, that's a laugh. :rolleyes:
Yooka-Laylee was the most successful kickstarter for a game (perhaps even the most successful kickstarter ever, I can't remember) not because of Jontron but because of the popularity of the makers of Banjo-Kazooie, one of the most beloved cult-classic platforming series after Mario 64 ever making a spiritual successor.
[QUOTE=Shaohs;52006402]Trust what? The facts that he showed in the video?
People went out and complained to playtonic, playtonic removes Jon from the project, and then Team 17 shits on the man who got the game popular. Not really seeing the distortion that your mentioning[/QUOTE]
Do you know how much of a following Rare and it's alumni have?
Until this schlock I didn't even know Jon was in the game. To say he made it popular is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Shaohs;52006402]Trust what? The facts that he showed in the video?
People went out and complained to playtonic, playtonic removes Jon from the project, and then Team 17 shits on the man who got the game popular. Not really seeing the distortion that your mentioning[/QUOTE]
The game broke Kickstarter records in less than a day, let alone getting funded within an hour of going live.
It's popular because it's basically a new Banjo Kazooie game in all but name being developed by the same team.
Yeah I don't even know much about the situation but to say Jontron is the reason Yooka Laylee is popular is laughable even to someone who never played Banjo Kazooie. I put the video on as background noise for some reason and when I got to the end I wasn't really sure what I had listened to or what the point of the video was.
All I really got was that for some reason they should allow refunds that they aren't obliged to give on a Kickstarter that ended 2 years ago because of Jontron being removed from the game and they are somehow being hypocritical for not doing that?
It'd be one thing if the project was based entirely around Jontron and people backed it purely for Jontron, but that aint the case.
Saying it now: this Mister Metokur guy comes off as absolutely obnoxious for how he hops on the internet drama train and goes after easy targets and after this video, also uninformed and / or just completely idiotic for making baseless assumptions.
The video isn't about saying that the game got popular because of JonTron, it's saying that that Playtonic should be able to give refunds at some point of time, or at least put out a statement about getting refunds because of the fact people are unhappy Jon left.
People who didn't care about JonTron will just keep on playing, but people who want a refund because he left should be able to get one at some point of time.
If you can't get a refund at all, then that's not a very nice thing, regardless of whether you care about Jon or not.
EDIT: Mister Metokur is the Internet Aristocrat, for anyone who didn't know. Take that how you will.
[QUOTE=Scorpo;52006488]The video isn't about saying that the game got popular because of JonTron, it's saying that that Playtonic should be able to give refunds at some point of time, or at least put out a statement about getting refunds because of the fact people are unhappy Jon left.
People who didn't care about JonTron will just keep on playing, but people who want a refund because he left should be able to get one at some point of time.
If you can't get a refund at all, then that's not a very nice thing, regardless of whether you care about Jon or not.
EDIT: Mister Metokur is the Internet Aristocrat, for anyone who didn't know. Take that how you will.[/QUOTE]
Like I said in the other thread.
It's true, they are not required by law to refund anyone because you aren't buying something through a Kickstarter, you are investing in a product, it's a business venture, one that may or may not fail and you may or may not get anything out of it, for those that want a refund because they bought it on Steam however, they can apply for a refund through the Steam refund service instead of bitching or trolling on the forums.
Of course.
But on Steam, what I said in the other thread is still true: Playtonic or their mods are locking and banning threads asking how to refund and anything pertaining to Jon.
Not everyone knows how to, as well, and I'd assume that the amount of threads are because of the fact they're not giving out refunds.
If I'm wrong about the Steam part, then my apologies.
[QUOTE=Scorpo;52006522]Of course.
But on Steam, what I said in the other thread is still true: Playtonic or their mods are locking and banning threads asking how to refund and anything pertaining to Jon.[/QUOTE]
Threadshitting is still threadshitting, facepunch would do the same if it was the Rust forums being shat up, if they really wanted a refund they'd look up how to do it without moaning like a little bitch, it's relatively easy, especially for a game that hasn't been released yet, besides, I'd assume MOST of the people asking for refunds backed the thing in the first place, which doesn't entitle them to a refund.
Alt-Right nutjob bitches that fellow Alt-Right nutjob is removed from a game.
Uses Trumpisms to dictate that anything that opposes the Alt-Right is "Failing"
Nothing to see here folks, just an old man off his meds who escaped The Home.
You can automatically/instantly refund games you have pre-ordered through Steam I think its either if the game isn't out yet or if you haven't installed it. If a situation like this is enough to make people start demanding refunds then all the more reason people should seriously start to consider where they send their money before knowing what they are getting.
What I gathered is (And the examples in the video show) that people are wanting refunds on their Kickstarter backing, which like I said is kinda ridiculous and unrealistic considering the Kickstarter was nearly 2 years ago and the money is probably already spent. What they did in order to distance themselves from the situation isn't in particularly bad taste and I don't really see why they should offer refunds at the final hour over something relatively minor which wasn't even a focus from the start anyway.
Don't back projects on Kickstarter if you are unwilling to deal with the idea that something you disagree with might happen to the project.
[QUOTE=certified;52006539]Alt-Right nutjob bitches that fellow Alt-Right nutjob is removed from a game.
Uses Trumpisms to dictate that anything that opposes the Alt-Right is "Failing"
Nothing to see here folks, just an old man off his meds who escaped The Home.[/QUOTE]
You use that Alt-Right term to describe Jon but I don't think you really know what it means.
As for Metokur? Ehh. I haven't watched his hour long debates to know that kind of shtick.
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also what the fuck is a "trumpisms"
[QUOTE=jonu67;52006430]The man who got the game popular? HA, that's a laugh. :rolleyes:
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It's honestly fucking hilarious that some people think Jon was a large contributor to the games popularity, and also think he's a large contributor to the rise of the alt-right or some shit.
[QUOTE=Shaohs;52006402]Trust what? The facts that he showed in the video?
People went out and complained to playtonic, playtonic removes Jon from the project, and then Team 17 shits on the man who got the game popular. Not really seeing the distortion that your mentioning[/QUOTE]
how bout the fact he shows a screenshot of one banned guy on the steam forum and claims it was for asking for a refund when it was actually because of [url=http://i.imgur.com/C5XzRU9.png]other posts he made[/url] lol... Nobody was banned just because they requested a refund. If you haven't figured it out, people are politely asking for a refund in one place and then freaking out on the main forum to get banned so they can try to claim it was because of the refund request, and this guys rolling with it because more drama=more views. Regardless we already have a [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1557749]thread[/url] for discussing this so keep it there thx
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