• Russian journalist attacked, beaten up and forced to bend to Ukrainian flag in Ukraine. Police says:
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[url]http://lifenews.ru/news/145846[/url] [quote] LifeNews correspondent Eugene Zmanovsky was beaten in Kiev before the concert of the famous singer Ani Lorak. Semenovskaya was near the Palace on the editorial job, when her Ukrainian colleagues attacked the girl. In the end, Eugene were pelted with eggs and firecrackers, sprayed in the face with pepper spray and beaten. The reporter tried to contact law enforcement officers to help her and the operator to get away from the crowd beating them. However, [b]the policeman told the girls: "Go back to your Russia"[/b] [/quote] [video=youtube;mzJ3JVeCQcU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzJ3JVeCQcU[/video] 1:30 she gets sprayed with peper spray right into the eyes.
what was that big bang at the start.?
hate begets hate, begets hate.
BIAS. BIAS EVERYWHERE.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;46584439]what was that big bang at the start.?[/QUOTE] Probably one of the firecrackers mentioned in the article.
[QUOTE=Ithon;46584457]hate begets hate, begets hate.[/QUOTE] This tbh.... Not saying such behavior is acceptable but it's not unexpected with the recent happenings.
Police getting in on the mob action. Classy
I don't condone it, but they've been shadow invaded twice already, I can understand why they're pissed...
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46585007]I don't condone it, but they've been shadow invaded twice already, I can understand why they're pissed...[/QUOTE] Pissed or not you don't attack journalists
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46585007]I don't condone it, but they've been shadow invaded twice already, I can understand why they're pissed...[/QUOTE] Yes. Shadow invaded by journalists.
[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;46585041]Pissed or not you don't attack journalists[/QUOTE] The relevant news channel in question doesn't have journalistic credibility after reporting lots of nasty information of dubious origin (aka made up), as well as having its reporters being fully armed and carrying weapons in the warzone. This was a really inappropriate response. It's been talked for quite a while now the 'journalists' of this channel must have been not let to enter Ukraine in the first place.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46585133]Yes. Shadow invaded by journalists.[/QUOTE] Russian journalism hasn't minded being an instrumental part of their machine in this fight, what with all the propaganda they've been spewing out in favor of their cause-- after the shadow invasion, after the dubious (understatement of the century) Crimean referendum, MH17, Russian military involvement with the rebels, etc. Whether or not this has all been on the Russian media's own accord or in accordance with what the government of Russia has been pushing for them to do, it makes no difference. They're guilty all the same. The Ukrainian people are pissed off at them and rightfully so. These so-called "journalists" have consistently proven throughout the course of this struggle since it began that they are completely without any sort of journalistic integrity and devoid of interest in facts that do not support the unreality they keep pushing as truth. Not being able to comprehend this shows you're either a shill or you're just pitifully naive and stupid.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46585133]Yes. Shadow invaded by journalists.[/QUOTE] Propaganda is very much part of an invasion. The journalists help it.
These LifeNews cunts aren't welcome in Ukraine, yet they still come back and go to a Ukrainian concert. They're really stupid if they didn't expect a hostile reaction after so much of their bullshit.
I completely understand why they are pissed, but openly harassing journalists, the ones who bring the message back home, is definitely not in any way conducive. The best Ukrainians can do is be the better people and treat everyone with respect still. This would further shift positive sentiment toward Ukraine. But this, this is deplorable. Not only are these Ukrainians being assholes, their behavior [I]is the very hand[/I] that stokes the flames of hate and prejudice.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;46585342]These LifeNews cunts aren't welcome in Ukraine, yet they still come back and go to a Ukrainian concert. They're really stupid if they didn't expect a hostile reaction after so much of their bullshit.[/QUOTE] Wait, aren't Ukrainians "European nation" with democratic values and an urge for freedom? Apparently freedom of speech is not part of ukrainian democractic values. [editline]27th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Govna;46585299]Russian journalism hasn't minded being an instrumental part of their machine in this fight, what with all the propaganda they've been spewing out in favor of their cause-- after the shadow invasion, after the dubious (understatement of the century) Crimean referendum, MH17, Russian military involvement with the rebels, etc. Whether or not this has all been on the Russian media's own accord or in accordance with what the government of Russia has been pushing for them to do, it makes no difference. They're guilty all the same. The Ukrainian people are pissed off at them and rightfully so. These so-called "journalists" have consistently proven throughout the course of this struggle since it began that they are completely without any sort of journalistic integrity and devoid of interest in facts that do not support the unreality they keep pushing as truth. Not being able to comprehend this shows you're either a shill or you're just pitifully naive and stupid.[/QUOTE] We don't beat up Ukrainian reporters in Moscow even though they call us "enemies of state" and "asian hoardes" and other shit. Ukrainian journalists claimed that Russia used tactical nukes on ATO forces. If you are not able to comprehend that the woman hurt was not in any way responsible for whatever crimes you or ukrainian people accuse Russia of and pepper spraying her on camera doesn't change the situation for the better in any way then you are the shill here.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46585386]Wait, aren't Ukrainians "European nation" with democratic values and an urge for freedom? Apparently freedom of speech is not part of ukrainian democractic values.[/QUOTE]You got a lightning bolt for this, because you're fucking spot on. That attitude isn't exactly uncommon among Europeans though, (an us vs them attitude isn't uncommon across humanity anyway) and it's one of the things that burns my ass about Europe in general. Sometimes it seems like "your rights end where my feelings begin" is the unwritten policy across the ocean, but I choose to refuse to believe that.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46585386]We don't beat up Ukrainian reporters in Moscow even though they call us "enemies of state" and "asian hoardes" and other shit. [b]Ukrainian journalists claimed that Russia used tactical nukes on ATO forces[/b].[/quote] Where did they claim this lol? Also, you [i]are[/i] enemies of the Ukrainian state. Are you so fucking oblivious as to the reason why? Funneling arms and equipment to the pro-Russian rebels, giving those same people aid and support with food and medicine, the invasion of the Crimean Peninsula... gee, no wonder they hate you. You're tearing their country apart, literally. Somehow, if history is any indication, which it is, I have a hard time accepting you wouldn't be the same way if you were the ones having to suffer this shit. But you aren't. You can sit on your ass comfortable in the knowledge this conflict is militarily going your way. [quote]If you are not able to comprehend that the woman hurt was not in any way responsible for whatever crimes you or ukrainian people accuse Russia of and pepper spraying her on camera doesn't change the situation for the better in any way then you are the shill here.[/QUOTE] She's responsible as a part of the Russian media, LifeNews no less, which has been as I previously explained instrumental in this conflict in serving the interests of the belligerent Russian government to the detriment of the Ukrainian state and the Ukrainian people; whatever happens to her happens to her, and that's how simple it is.
[QUOTE=Govna;46585423]Where did they claim this lol? Also, you [i]are[/i] enemies of the Ukrainian state. Are you so fucking oblivious as to the reason why? Funneling arms and equipment to the pro-Russian rebels, giving those same people aid and support with food and medicine, the invasion of the Crimean Peninsula... gee, no wonder they hate you. You're tearing their country apart, literally. Somehow, if history is any indication, which it is, I have a hard time accepting you wouldn't be the same way if you were the ones having to suffer this shit. But you aren't. You can sit on your ass comfortable in the knowledge this conflict is militarily going your way. She's responsible as a part of the Russian media; whatever happens to her happens to her, and that's how simple it is.[/QUOTE]Uh, [b]no.[/b] Sorry, no. One: she's not responsible for and has no way to influence the military conflict. Two, she's a [i]civilian[/i] and isn't "an enemy of the Ukrainian state" because that's not how that works. Three, even if Russians would beat Ukrainian journalists in the street, that doesn't make this okay, just like this would make that okay.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46585386]Wait, aren't Ukrainians "European nation" with democratic values and an urge for freedom? Apparently freedom of speech is not part of ukrainian democractic values.[/QUOTE] Propaganda attempting to be passed off as news by a belligerent nation which is your enemy is not protected as freedom of speech actually. Britain imprisoned Mosley during World War II, we imprisoned Fritz Kuhn, you Russians have had a long history of imprisoning people for this sort of behavior, etc. Your freedom of speech has limits; that's universally agreed upon.
Ugh, i am not surprised. Come on people, we are talking about police force in [I]Ukraine[/I] - fuck up in Odessa, messed up ways of protecting goverment buildings, even foreign embasy. At this point, expecting them to be normal acting police force is childish. That is ongoing trend, not a single event. Also, i would not suggest any kind of reasoning with a person who'se nickname is literally "shit" in Russian, on purpose i suppose.
Fuck political correctness. I do not condone the actions that police did against the attention whoring propaganda makers.
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;46585481]Fuck political correctness. I do not condone the actions that police did against the beaten, humiliated by crowd foreign journalists who work for attention whoring propaganda makers.[/QUOTE] fixed that for ya
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[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;46585438]Uh, [b]no.[/b] Sorry, no. One: she's not responsible for and has no way to influence the military conflict. Two, she's a [i]civilian[/i] and isn't "an enemy of the Ukrainian state" because that's not how that works. Three, even if Russians would beat Ukrainian journalists in the street, that doesn't make this okay, just like this would make that okay.[/QUOTE] This How the fuck can people defend such cruel behaviour towards that poor woman?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;46585733]This How the fuck can people defend such cruel behaviour towards that poor woman?[/QUOTE] 1) She is Russian. 2) she is from somewhat biased news agency Enough reasons for SH to hate.
I've seen people defending pedophiles here, seeing people defend this shit isn't surprising.
[QUOTE=Hamitsu;46586267]I've seen people defending pedophiles here, seeing people defend this shit isn't surprising.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/ru.png[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=karimatrix;46585466]Ugh, i am not surprised. Come on people, we are talking about police force in [I]Ukraine[/I] - fuck up in Odessa, messed up ways of protecting goverment buildings, even foreign embasy. At this point, expecting them to be normal acting police force is childish. That is ongoing trend, not a single event. Also, i would not suggest any kind of reasoning with a person who'se nickname is literally "shit" in Russian, on purpose i suppose.[/QUOTE] I wonder if you would be so offended if I brought up that article about the Donetsk "Peoples Republic" abducting a woman, beating her, tying her to a flagpole, and having people slap, spit on, and throw things at her for being a "loyalist".
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