Gallup: Americans Say Trump Keeps Promises, Is Strong Leader
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[QUOTE]WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Majorities of Americans believe President Donald Trump keeps his promises, is a strong and decisive leader, and can bring about changes the country needs. Trump scores worse on other characteristics and qualities: Less than half of Americans perceive him as honest and trustworthy, able to manage the government effectively, inspiring confidence and caring about the needs of people like themselves.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.gallup.com/poll/203915/americans-say-trump-keeps-promises-strong-leader.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles"]Gallup[/URL]
WHAT THE FUCK!?
[QUOTE]Majorities of Americans believe President Donald Trump keeps his promises, is a strong and decisive leader, and can bring about changes the country needs[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Less than half of Americans perceive him as honest and trustworthy, able to manage the government effectively[/QUOTE]
These two sentences seem to contradict each other in the most massive way I've ever seen, I'm not sure how this happened
I mean, he's trying to keep some of his promises, and the gatling gun of executive orders (that he claims he didn't read when Bannon got him to sign them) certainly makes him a decisive leader. I can't argue with that.
Where I'm going to strongly disagree is that he has kept all of the wrong promises and ruling by executive order is exactly what his supporters complained that Obama did. He's also clearly trying to cover Flynn up, and Pence is doing his damndest to appear clean.
Plus, only a minority think he is honest, capable, or gives a shit about the common people -- that can only go down for the rest of the year given Trump's current trajectory.
[QUOTE=Elspin;51836538]These two sentences seem to contradict each other in the most massive way I've ever seen, I'm not sure how this happened[/QUOTE]
Honest to god, was going to see Trump's approval today then saw this and was like WTF?
He's definitely keeping his promises. It's just that they're shit promises and he's doing a shit job of trying to keep them.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51836555]He's definitely keeping his promises. It's just that they're shit promises and he's doing a shit job of trying to keep them.[/QUOTE]
The fact that they are also calling him a strong and decisive leader, and will bring about the Change America Needs
I won't deny that he's "following his promises", though the way he goes about it comes off as very authoritarian. Dictators do get stuff done since they have no politics or bureaucracy to go throw, but at the end of the day, they're still dictators.
[QUOTE=Elspin;51836538]These two sentences seem to contradict each other in the most massive way I've ever seen, I'm not sure how this happened[/QUOTE]
Shit Education system outside of cities and major populated areas, bad job sustainability in rural areas, and cult of personality around the man. That's my guess at least. Largely lack of education though.
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;51836518][URL="http://www.gallup.com/poll/203915/americans-say-trump-keeps-promises-strong-leader.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles"]Gallup[/URL]
WHAT THE FUCK!?[/QUOTE]
if you check the other questions it makes a little more sense. 54% of people think he doesn't care about them, 55% don't think he inspires confidence. basically the average person thinks he's totally brainless but has a will of iron, not unlike a sea cucumber
[QUOTE=Elspin;51836538]These two sentences seem to contradict each other in the most massive way I've ever seen, I'm not sure how this happened[/QUOTE]
"Strong" and "decisive" aren't necessarily good things. I'm not gonna claim it's a significant number, but I imagine there's people who don't particularly like his behavior but still buy into the "tough guy" image
[QUOTE=Elspin;51836538]These two sentences seem to contradict each other in the most massive way I've ever seen, I'm not sure how this happened[/QUOTE]
I think it's partially because he made outrageous and irresponsible campaign promises, such as the wall, but then ended up actually appearing to work towards fulfilling them.
Trump is the only politician I know of that managed such a feat of this scale. Politicians who make idiotic campaign promises tend to not get elected.
I think I know why now.
[URL="https://today.yougov.com/news/2017/02/16/immigration-terrorism-courts-nation-divided/"]https://today.yougov.com/news/2017/02/16/immigration-terrorism-courts-nation-divided/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Republicans have overwhelmingly favored the President’s immigration actions, but they also fear those who may be entering the country, both legally and illegally, from the Middle East and Latin America. In this week’s poll, majorities of Republicans view Syrian refugees, illegal immigrants crossing the Mexican border, and even Muslim tourists as security risks. Far fewer Democrats express concern about all three of these groups.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Most Republicans express great enthusiasm over the executive orders that move ahead with limits on entry, though the balance of opinion in the country as a whole varies, depending on the specific order. Pluralities of Americans favor the 90-day ban on entry from seven predominantly Muslim countries and the 50% reduction of refugees admitted. But the country is narrowly opposed to constructing a border wall along the Mexican border. It is evenly divided over a complete ban on admitting refugees from Syria and a four-month stop on the admission of all refugees.[/QUOTE]
He keeps his promises, is a strong leader, and is bringing America the change it needs.
But he is untrustworthy, an ineffective manager, and does not inspire confidence.
Maybe polling is broken.
Ummm same polls that said hillary would win? 2% trump. Polls lie sheepeople..... wake up
I'm not sure how anybody can see this guy as "strong." His entire presidency up to this point has essentially been one continuous temper tantrum at the media, the courts, the entertainment industry, and all the other "haters and losers" who don't pat him on the back and tell him how good he's doing.
Is it strength to pitch a fit every time somebody says something unflattering about you?
Well, it does mirror most of the general public I've seen in the US, so he does have the representation thing down.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51836831]I'm not sure how anybody can see this guy as "strong." His entire presidency up to this point has essentially been one continuous temper tantrum at the media, the courts, the entertainment industry, and all the other "haters and losers" who don't pat him on the back and tell him how good he's doing.
Is it strength to pitch a fit every time somebody says something unflattering about you?[/QUOTE]
To the people who support Trump, Trump isn't the elite here, he is actually the underdog, fighting against the media and political establishment as well as the intelligence communities "deep state". They still believe they are the rebel fighters.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51836831]I'm not sure how anybody can see this guy as "strong." His entire presidency up to this point has essentially been one continuous temper tantrum at the media, the courts, the entertainment industry, and all the other "haters and losers" who don't pat him on the back and tell him how good he's doing.
Is it strength to pitch a fit every time somebody says something unflattering about you?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Raidyr;51836860]To the people who support Trump, Trump isn't the elite here, he is actually the underdog, fighting against the media and political establishment as well as the intelligence communities "deep state". They still believe they are the rebel fighters.[/QUOTE]
So, a solution is to keep holding Trump accountable and in the spotlight. He'll either melt and resign, or he'll escalate to the point of trying to block freedom of the press and violating or trying to abolish the First Amendment. Only his fanatics will stand up for suppressing freedom of speech to protect the Sovereign's feelings, and that will hopefully be the decisive moment that breaks the spell.
This could backfire, because depending on just how crazy things go, it could be the Reichstag Fire moment instead of [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism#Critical_reactions"]the Edward R. Murrow moment[/URL]:
[QUOTE=See It Now]We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men.[/QUOTE]
This cannot be allowed to happen twice in living memory.
I think that's just a bit early to say.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51836831]I'm not sure how anybody can see this guy as "strong." His entire presidency up to this point has essentially been one continuous temper tantrum at the media, the courts, the entertainment industry, and all the other "haters and losers" who don't pat him on the back and tell him how good he's doing.
Is it strength to pitch a fit every time somebody says something unflattering about you?[/QUOTE]
Personally, I'd characterize it as a sign of weakness.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51836860]To the people who support Trump, Trump isn't the elite here, he is actually the underdog, fighting against the media and political establishment as well as the intelligence communities "deep state". They still believe they are the rebel fighters.[/QUOTE]
You have to be capable of surreal levels of self deception to believe that a billionaire is a rebel
they need to do some confidence intervals with these questions, because things dont make a lot of sense
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unreal polarization in this country, wow
I am not surprised that Americans who have been born into a culture that fosters such nationalism and with such a history of division to be in support for Trump at this scale, say what you like about him losing the popular vote, him winning the primaries and the election at all is proof of this at some scale.
It honestly only gives me the impression that Trump himself is actually more so the symptom of a nationwide consensus of hatred and division that should be changed. How to change that, though, I honestly don't know. Insulting the other side and/or shaming them doesn't seem to work at all, it might actually have backfired.
well, for what it's worth, trump has kept most of his promises
[QUOTE=Judas;51838076]well, for what it's worth, trump has kept most of his promises[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but they're shit promises.
He also kinda sold out when he went to select his cabinet.
Trump's been pretty transparent.
[QUOTE=chernisreal?;51838170]Trump's been pretty transparent.[/QUOTE]
-ly awful.
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