What's even worse is that her friend snitched on her.
"Ohhh they are growing marijuana! I don't want any of my kids or anyone else's kids having it. Guess I'll just have to fuck up a couples lives permanently based upon that unfounded and completely insane evidence! I'm a model citizen! :allears:"
Surely escaping that anxiety by being dependent on a substance isn't actually helping the problem?
did he have a prescription or something for actually growing the plant or did he have one just for acquiring the drug? because as far as i know it's illegal to grow it, but ok to pick it up from drugstores.
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[QUOTE=Tudd;30012529]Surely escaping that anxiety by being dependent on a substance isn't actually helping the problem?[/QUOTE]
marijuana doesn't get you addicted, you can get addicted to it as you can get addicted to doing back flips. it's totally psychological.
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i don't like marijuana at all by the way, i'm just based on facts.
They were both stoned when that first photo was taken by the looks of it.
[QUOTE=MenteR;30012590]
marijuana doesn't get you addicted, you can get addicted to it as you can get addicted to doing back flips. it's totally psychological.
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i don't like marijuana at all by the way, i'm just based on facts.[/QUOTE]
Ofcourse I know that, but dependence and addiction are different. Learning to cope with extreme circumstances isn't easy, especially if she depends on a illegal substance to relax.
If this guy get jailed I think Obama should pardon him. I think Obama should pardon any non violent medical marijuana user. He did stop the raids on medical marijuana patients (although that isn't entirely true because there have still been a number of them).
[QUOTE=MenteR;30012590]did he have a prescription or something for actually growing the plant or did he have one just for acquiring the drug? because as far as i know it's illegal to grow it, but ok to pick it up from drugstores.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure where this is, but in most places where medical marijuana is allowed the patient is allowed a caretaker to help provide the drug, and this includes the process of growing. The reason for such provision is that many medical marijuana patients may not have the ability to do it themselves. It isn't illegal unless she didn't have a prescription or because there is some special requirement for care takers in that state.
lol they brought in a helicopter for 2 marijuana plants growing in an old couples backyard.
[QUOTE=Tudd;30013102]Ofcourse I know that, but dependence and addiction are different. Learning to cope with extreme circumstances isn't easy, especially if she depends on a illegal substance to relax.[/QUOTE]
The alternatives to marijuana to treat her cancer and radiation symptoms are a number of expensive medications all with their own side effects and risk of dependance. A big is vicodin, which is addictive and is abused by many people. The fact of the matter is that marijuana is the best drug in relieving many of the symptoms of cancer and radiation and any alternative has far higher cost and risk.
[QUOTE=Tudd;30013102]Ofcourse I know that, but dependence and addiction are different. Learning to cope with extreme circumstances isn't easy, especially if she depends on a illegal substance to relax.[/QUOTE]
I don't really see the problem with the so called illegal substance as it is technically the much safer alternative than the prescription alternatives, like stated vicodin is a good example.
Personally I really don't see the reason as to why marijuana is classed as illegal, it's less deadly than tobacco and alcohol put together and has many pros to it's medical and general well being if used correctly.
The only issue is the people getting mentally addicted to it, but a mental addiction is so much easier to remove than a physical addiction like what tobacco and alcohol produces.
Another thing which pisses me off is how a much more harmful drug due to its much larger and instant kick, salvia is legal in almost every country and can be freely grown, yet has fuck all pros to it's self apart for getting yourself a psychotic high.
Mental addiction is a phrase made up so people can still call it addictive. It is no more subject to addiction than video games, listening to music, and any other activity one may enjoy.
[QUOTE=Pepin;30013840]Mental addiction is a phrase made up so people can still call it addictive. It is no more subject to addiction than video games, listening to music, and any other activity one may enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much the case, you can also sum up a mental addiction as a habit.
[QUOTE=Tudd;30012529]Surely escaping that anxiety by being dependent on a substance isn't actually helping the problem?[/QUOTE]
It isn't just for anxiety, you douche. Marijuana also helps increase the appetite, which is important because chemo usually leaves the person nauseated all the time. And if it does help alleviate her anxiety or pain, who the fuck are you to judge her? I'd like to see how brave you'd be if you were fighting cancer.
being pro-weed isnt some rebel bandwagon. people fail to realize it is for a greater cause. it can stimulate the economy, has health benefits, and is generally a safer alternative to cigarettes and alcohol
I don't see why having cancer should make her above the law
[QUOTE=noiprocS;30016039]I don't see why having cancer should make her above the law[/QUOTE]
and I don't see why the law should cause unneeded grief for a person with cancer
[QUOTE=Latency;30017129]and I don't see why the law should cause unneeded grief for a person with cancer[/QUOTE]
The law's the law whether or not you agree with it, she could have easily went with less "natural" medications to calm her anxiety
[QUOTE=noiprocS;30017979]The law's the law whether or not you agree with it, she could have easily went with less "natural" medications to calm her anxiety[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but nothing helps anxiety better than weed.
[QUOTE=noiprocS;30017979]The law's the law whether or not you agree with it, she could have easily went with less "natural" medications to calm her anxiety[/QUOTE]
Enjoy living by words in books and not by your own moral standards.
[QUOTE=Tudd;30013102]Ofcourse I know that, but dependence and addiction are different. Learning to cope with extreme circumstances isn't easy, especially if she depends on a illegal substance to relax.[/QUOTE]
Shes using it as a pain killer. So should we not use pain killers too?
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[QUOTE=noiprocS;30017979]The law's the law whether or not you agree with it, she could have easily went with less "natural" medications to calm her anxiety[/QUOTE]
The laws the law isnt a real argument. Weed was the best choice for her.
[QUOTE=Zeero;30018285]Enjoy living by words in books and not by your own moral standards.[/QUOTE]
Enjoy living in prison
[QUOTE=noiprocS;30019480]Enjoy living in prison[/QUOTE]
Yea because cops know what you are doing 24-7. Out of all the people I know who smoke weed only one has gotten cought and only because he brought it to school. You can be a sensible weed smoker.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;30019654]Yea because cops know what you are doing 24-7. Out of all the people I know who smoke weed only one has gotten cought and only because he brought it to school. You can be a sensible weed smoker.[/QUOTE]
It wasn't about weed it was about moral standard vs laws, I know you don't get instantly arrested for smoking weed because its something I occasionally partake in
[QUOTE=noiprocS;30019743]It wasn't about weed it was about moral standard vs laws, I know you don't get instantly arrested for smoking weed because its something I occasionally partake in[/QUOTE]
Then stop being a goddamn hypocrite. She wasn't above the law, yes, but if she had a license for medical use of marijuana or even just recommendation from a doctor then it would have qualified her as liable. Her "friend" is much like you, a representative being of the ignorance that plagues those who suffer. If the woman was in unbearable physical stress but her body could not handle conventional drugs, then I see no wrongdoign in why she shouldn't be able to use marijuana.
Imagine if your own family members told you that they were growing marijuana for personal use to help with pain, anxiety, or otherwise. Now imagine that they were investigated, growing facilities discovered, and imprisoned without any medical aid or otherwise.
If you still uphold to the laws rather than moral necessities, I'd highly recommend that you visit a psychiatrist or a mentor about your state of mental well-being. You'd make a great lawyer or politician, though.
[QUOTE=aznz888;30019854]I'd highly recommend that you visit a psychiatrist or a mentor about your state of mental well-being. You'd make a great lawyer or politician, though.[/QUOTE]
Haha, you've resorted to personal jabs, classy.
I wasn't saying that he deserves to go to jail or that they're bad people, I was simply saying that it's stupid that she expects them to pardon him from when they were growing and using marijuana without a prescription. If I got caught with weed I would deal with the consequences if it were for medical needs or not. If I had terrible anxiety I would ask my doctor about medicinal marijuana or seek other prescriptions instead of taking the liberty of growing my own.
You're making a lot of assumptions, I don't remember the video saying her body couldn't handle drugs. I'm not plaguing anything, I simply think its silly she expects to be pardoned of any consequences. I see no wrongdoing in using marijuana either, and I think the laws should be revised heavily, but that's the law, moral or not.
tl;dr she should have got a prescription
[QUOTE=noiprocS;30020208]Haha, you've resorted to personal jabs, classy.
I wasn't saying that he deserves to go to jail or that they're bad people, I was simply saying that it's stupid that she expects them to pardon him from when they were growing and using marijuana without a prescription. If I got caught with weed I would deal with the consequences if it were for medical needs or not. If I had terrible anxiety I would ask my doctor about medicinal marijuana or seek other prescriptions instead of taking the liberty of growing my own.
You're making a lot of assumptions, I don't remember the video saying her body couldn't handle drugs. I'm not plaguing anything, I simply think its silly she expects to be pardoned of any consequences. I see no wrongdoing in using marijuana either, and I think the laws should be revised heavily, but that's the law, moral or not.
tl;dr she should have got a prescription[/QUOTE]
Lawfully, yes, she should have gotten a prescription (What's this? A debate that actually considers both sides? Amazing.) and actual marijuana from a dispensery to avoid legal troubles. She's most certainly not above the law, but she should get at least some form of a pardon for using it for legitimate reasons.
Most arrests are made for marijuana not simply for illegal use, but on suspicion of distribution as well as unauthorized growing. Unfortunately, the law is short-sighted and does not consider into specific needs of some, and need not arrest the husband as though he were a criminal mastermind who plans to sell it to minors.
At most, in my opinion, the punishment should've simply been confiscation of the plants and a fine. I'll admit, hearing that the 'friend' betrayed her and that they locked up a relatively innocent old man made my blood boil and sway towards low blows.