• Russian tv crew offered money to youths in Sweden to cause trouble in front of camera
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[QUOTE]400 Swedish Krona for causing “action” in front of the camera. That offer was allegedly given to a group of local youths in the Stockholm suburb of Rinkeby. The offer came from a Russian tv crew, two of the young men tell Danish media Radio24syv.“They came to us and told us they wanted to see some action. They wanted to bribe each of us with 400 Swedish Krona,” says “Mohammed”. “Mohammed” wants to remain anonymous, but Radio24syv is familiar with his identity. “Mohammed” tells Radio24syv that two men approached the group and claimed to be Russian journalists. He also overheard them speaking in a language that sounded like Russian. Neither of the two young men know which network the journalists came from. “While we were talking to them, the police approached us. We didn’t want to do what the tv-crew were asking from us. But when the police came, the journalists told the police that we were the ones who had asked for money to cause trouble”, “Mohammed” tells Radio24syv.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.radio24syv.dk/udvalgte-nyhedshistorier/russian-tv-crew-offered-money-to-youths-in-sweden-to-cause-trouble-in-front-of-camera/[/url] Still a bit unclear, but likely true. Few weeks ago a Russian show inflated murder rate by like 5 times in a Swedish city. We've been under a propaganda attack for some time now.
[quote]Flemming Splidsboel, a senior lecturer at the Danish Institute of Foreign Affairs, calls it “very, very interesting.” He believes Russia could have an interest in affecting the debate about refugees and asylum seekers in Sweden. “It’s possible that the Russian government wants to affect the political debate in Sweden in favor of certain political parties, which hold a positive view on Russia. Parties Russia therefore wish to strengthen ahead of a coming election,” Flemming Splidsboel tells Radio24syv.[/quote] oh so that's why fuck
Man, it's like mindlessly parroting and sensationalizing this racist shit perpetuates it by making it profitable or something. I wonder if anyone here is guilty of that. :buddy:
time for sweden to launch the kärnvapen
Russia influencing public perception in sweden to promote donald trump :incredible:
[QUOTE=Sonador;51924927]Man, it's like mindlessly parroting and sensationalizing this racist shit perpetuates it by making it profitable or something. I wonder if anyone here is guilty of that. :buddy:[/QUOTE] You're going to see deflection relatively soon. Moving away from the actual topic of people paying kids to cause ruckus into how we have the highest rape/murder/muslim/whatever rate. It's a classic strategy, but easy to counter with basic facts and honesty that we do have problems. [editline]7th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=1239the;51924928]time for sweden to launch the kärnvapen[/QUOTE] It's an interesting story, at one point in our history we were deciding to either build a line of fighter jets or develop nukes. We even set up a nuclear reactor right below my university in central Stockholm to understand the nuclear physics better, smart huh? But in the end we went with the planes.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;51924946]You're going to see deflection relatively soon. Moving away from the actual topic of people paying kids to cause ruckus into how we have the highest rape/murder/muslim/whatever rate. It's a classic strategy, but easy to counter with basic facts and honesty that we do have problems. [editline]7th March 2017[/editline] It's an interesting story, at one point in our history we were deciding to either build a line of fighter jets or develop nukes. We even set up a nuclear reactor right below my university in central Stockholm to understand the nuclear physics better, smart huh? But in the end we went with the planes.[/QUOTE] Agreed. Although I would argue being correct has little to no value against certain folks whose reality doesn't involve being wrong on here. Sweden is a paradise compared to most of the metropolitan US. If I weren't so stubborn about the cold and learning a language, I'd consider moving there.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;51924865][URL]http://www.radio24syv.dk/udvalgte-nyhedshistorier/russian-tv-crew-offered-money-to-youths-in-sweden-to-cause-trouble-in-front-of-camera/[/URL] Still a bit unclear, but likely true. Few weeks ago a Russian show inflated murder rate by like 5 times in a Swedish city. We've been under a propaganda attack for some time now.[/QUOTE] 'Some time now' is a bit of an understatement. There was a big deal about the misinformation campaign over Sweden's NATO involvement last year. [QUOTE]STOCKHOLM — With a vigorous national debate underway on whether Sweden should enter a military partnership with NATO, officials in Stockholm suddenly encountered an unsettling problem: a flood of distorted and outright false information on social media, confusing public perceptions of the issue. [B]The claims were alarming: If Sweden, a non-NATO member, signed the deal, the alliance would stockpile secret nuclear weapons on Swedish soil; NATO could attack Russia from Sweden without government approval; NATO soldiers, immune from prosecution, could rape Swedish women without fear of criminal charges.[/B] They were all false, but the disinformation had begun spilling into the traditional news media, and as the defense minister, Peter Hultqvist, traveled the country to promote the pact in speeches and town hall meetings, he was repeatedly grilled about the bogus stories.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html?_r=0"]https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html?_r=0 [/URL]Watch out Swebonny, I'm coming for your swedish womenz
[QUOTE=Ta16;51924977]'Some time now' is a bit of an understatement. There was a big deal about the misinformation campaign over Sweden's NATO involvement last year. [url]https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html?_r=0[/url][/QUOTE] You're definitely right, the very obvious campaign has been going on for 2-3 years now. Just at this moment I can recall the submarine hunt, in which RT claimed that we were just chasing a small wooden boat. They even sourced our military, the same military source that reported we actually did find submarine tracks on the seabed. And another one, from pretty recent one that claimed our foreign minister said all men should be castrated at a university QA session. The Swedish Embassy at Russia had to deny those claims. I mean, it's all just nasty politics, without any very severe outcomes, [B]i hope....[/B] Go :pride: Sweden :pride:!
[QUOTE=Swebonny;51924995] I mean, it's all just nasty politics, without any very severe outcomes, [B]i hope....[/B][/QUOTE] It's not limited to Sweden. Too late
I legit wonder what Tudd thinks about this, not attempting to call him out and demand he come post in this thread.
I admit I fell for the sweden yes! meme some times. I doubt it's just russia putting out all of this disinfo at this point. I do remember RT's bogus segment some days ago, and this just in, fuck RT. I have had it with these cunts straight up fabricating information. Every day these stinkpieces go uncensored is an insult to trustworthy newspapers. If I see one more asshole on the streets rambling about George fucking Soros of all people or the ever so elusive "no go zones" I'll dropkick a bitch.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51925138]I legit wonder what Tudd thinks about this, not attempting to call him out and demand he come post in this thread.[/QUOTE] Interesting but all evidence so far points to this being a unique case. Maybe people can investigate more if this happens often, but Sweden still has problems to deal with regarding immigration and integration.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51925276]Interesting but all evidence so far points to this being a unique case. Maybe people can investigate more if this happens often, but Sweden still has problems to deal with regarding immigration and integration.[/QUOTE] Regarding integration. Not regarding immigration itself. What the evidence points to is immigrants having a lower crime rate than nationals, and the backwards conservative right trying to fearmonger people against immigrants, case in point Trump(Wall and immigration ban) and Russia(This and their blatant long-play for a genuine dictatorship).
[QUOTE=Tudd;51925276]Interesting but all evidence so far points to this being a unique case. Maybe people can investigate more if this happens often, but Sweden still has problems to deal with regarding immigration and integration.[/QUOTE] Oi m8, screw your goddamned brain in. Rinkeby is a favorite hotspot for alt-right/white-supremacist/Russian "journalists" to stage migrant paranoia through clever editing and staged bullshit. We have multiple instances of this, from the recent Infowars anchor pretending to be escorted out of Rinkeby by police to "escape from a 50 man radical Islamic mob", and the 60 Minutes Australia (Known to have significantly less journalistic8integrity than its American counterpart) crew going with a known local White Supremacist group and provoking reactions off-camera and then taping the responses like they were unprovoked. And the funny thing is, they always keep doing it in the same exact plaza. Blatant dogwhistle at its finest. You know what All Evidence points to? A sustained Russian propaganda campaign as part of their initiative to destroy western civilization.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;51924946]You're going to see deflection relatively soon. Moving away from the actual topic of people paying kids to cause ruckus into how we have the highest rape/murder/muslim/whatever rate.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Tudd;51925276]Interesting but all evidence so far points to this being a unique case. Maybe people can investigate more if this happens often, but Sweden still has problems to deal with regarding immigration and integration.[/QUOTE] Hey, Swebonny, care to give me some lottery numbers?
I kinda wonder who exactly did that. Makes me want to check tv news reports just to hear another bullshit that they came up this time.
Everyone cites only this one source. How trustworthy is it? Want to reserve judgement before I know for sure
I really don't understand this right-wing obsession with making it look like Muslim immigrants have turned Sweden into Escape From New York.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51925379]I really don't understand this right-wing obsession with making it look like Muslim immigrants have turned Sweden into Escape From New York.[/QUOTE] It's very easy to understand actually, stir up nationalistic pride and get complacent voters who you can do anything to so long as you keep up this narrative of "all these brown people coming in are rapists, they're murderers, and they're not the best Mexico has to offer". I mean people don't seem too outraged at their (GOP and Trump) [B]FUCKING RETARDED[/B] new replacement for the ACA, their insanely retarded foreign policy, their inhumanly bad economic policy, their anti-women, anti-lgbt, anti-human rights, anti-progress stances. What matters is STRONG BORDERS, KEEP ALL THESE BROWN PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE THEY cause less crime than american nationals and the vast majority of (the very few in number) terrorist attacks are caused by radicalized citizens not immigrants. Fuck everything, man.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51925395]It's very easy to understand actually, stir up nationalistic pride and get complacent voters who you can do anything to so long as you keep up this narrative of "all these brown people coming in are rapists, they're murderers, and they're not the best Mexico has to offer". I mean people don't seem too outraged at their (GOP and Trump) [B]FUCKING RETARDED[/B] new replacement for the ACA, their insanely retarded foreign policy, their inhumanly bad economic policy, their anti-women, anti-lgbt, anti-human rights, anti-progress stances. What matters is STRONG BORDERS, KEEP ALL THESE BROWN PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE THEY cause less crime than american nationals and the vast majority of (the very few in number) terrorist attacks are caused by radicalized citizens not immigrants. Fuck everything, man.[/QUOTE] Basically, scapegoating with "they took our jobs"
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;51925369]Everyone cites only this one source. How trustworthy is it? Want to reserve judgement before I know for sure[/QUOTE] I mean they have this page: [url]http://www.radio24syv.dk/om-radio24syv/programetik/[/url] Here's the wikipedia page for their owners: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlingske_Media[/url] I looked up both CEOs. They have little information about both of them regarding conflicts of interest, in english and in other languages translated to english.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51925410]I mean they have this page: [url]http://www.radio24syv.dk/om-radio24syv/programetik/[/url] Here's the wikipedia page for their owners: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlingske_Media[/url] I looked up both CEOs. They have little information about both of them regarding conflicts of interest, in english and in other languages translated to english.[/QUOTE] Then that's fucked up. Doesn't matter what channel it was, it's a scummy thing to do.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51925379]I really don't understand this right-wing obsession with making it look like Muslim immigrants have turned Sweden into Escape From New York.[/QUOTE] Because they want islam to be blamed for ruining at least one european country, and for some reason more people are willing to believe that muslims ruined Sweden than Germany or France or whatever.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51925379]I really don't understand this right-wing obsession with making it look like Muslim immigrants have turned Sweden into Escape From New York.[/QUOTE] because sweden is a successful example of cultural integration going relatively smoothly and conservatives just can't handle anything that conflicts with their invented reality where muslims are at war with the western world.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51924941]Russia influencing public perception in sweden to promote donald trump :incredible:[/QUOTE] i wouldnt say they are promoting trump, they are just taking advantage of his claims to push the narrative of refugees ruining countries.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51924905]oh so that's why fuck[/QUOTE] Russia is playing a new disinformation/destabilization war and they're leagues ahead of us in it.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51925410]I mean they have this page: [url]http://www.radio24syv.dk/om-radio24syv/programetik/[/url] Here's the wikipedia page for their owners: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlingske_Media[/url] I looked up both CEOs. They have little information about both of them regarding conflicts of interest, in english and in other languages translated to english.[/QUOTE] To add to this, Berlinske is one of the more conservative Danish news-companies. Not outright [I]anti-immigration[/I] or anything, but they tend to be some of the ones with the sharp, critical tone towards it. Certainly not ones to push a pro-immigrant agenda just for the sake of it.
[QUOTE=Sonador;51925320]Hey, Swebonny, care to give me some lottery numbers?[/QUOTE] Marry me and get citizenship.
[QUOTE=1239the;51925530]because sweden is a successful example of cultural integration going relatively smoothly and conservatives just can't handle anything that conflicts with their invented reality where muslims are at war with the western world.[/QUOTE] That's not true at all. The US would be such an example. We're terrible at integration, not everything said by the right about Sweden is a lie.
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