Perry Won't Take Responsibility For Radical Attendees At His Prayer Event - Polidicks

Only because [URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/perry-wont-take-responsibility-radical-attendees-his-prayer-event"]he wants to be your president.[/URL] [quote] Sometimes you have to wonder if Rick Perry had any idea what he was getting into when he decided to organizer a massive public prayer rally with the [URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/four-minutes-hate-naked-bigotry-afas-bryan-fischer"]bigoted[/URL] American Family Association and then fill it with a bunch of Religious Right activists and self-proclaimed "prophets" and "apostles" who believe that [URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rick-perry-partners-pastor-who-thinks-oprah-precursor-antichrist"]Oprah is a forerunner to the Antichrist[/URL] and the [URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rick-perry-partners-apostle-who-thinks-statue-liberty-demonic-idol"]Statue of Liberty is a "demonic idol." [/URL] Because it sure seems like he [URL="http://www.kansas.com/2011/07/18/1938379/perry-says-he-doesnt-back-all.html"]doesn't have a clue at all[/URL]: [quote] Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Monday that he doesn't necessarily subscribe to the beliefs of some of the ministers coming to his prayer summit next month. "I'm sure that through my elections in the past that there have been some groups that have endorsed me publicly, that I appreciate their endorsements, but their endorsements of me doesn't mean I endorse what they believe in or what they say," Perry said. ... In his first discussion with reporters about some of the ministers associated with his call to pray for the nation, Perry indicated he is willing to associate with all of them even if he disagrees with some of their beliefs. He likened it to political endorsements. "I appreciate anyone who's going to endorse me, whether it's on The Response, or whether it's on a potential run for the presidency of the United States," he said. "Just because you endorse me doesn't mean I endorse everything that you say or do."[/quote] [/quote] Does he not recall what happened when John McCain accepted the endorsements of John Hagee and Rod Parsely? He had to [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/22/mccain-rejects-hagee-endo_n_103143.html"]publicly reject them[/URL] because of the radical things they had said and, in doing so, made clear that their views were "crazy and unacceptable" as well as "deeply offensive and indefensible" and stated that "there is no place for that kind of dialogue in America, and I believe that even though he endorsed me, and I didn't endorse him, the fact is that I repudiate such talk, and I reject his endorsement." Perry, by contrast, is [URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/john-hagee-will-be-participating-perrys-prayer-rally"][I]including[/I] Hagee[/URL] in his prayer rally, along with a[URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rick-perry-and-friends-meet-supporters-response-prayer-rally"] variety of other fringe figures[/URL] who have said equally outrageous things. And Perry is more than willing to publicly stand with every one of them while claiming that he is not responsible in any way. This is not some prayer rally being organized by some other group at which he is simply going to be an attendee; this is Rick Perry's prayer event - he conceived it, he set it in motion, and he is its public face. And he is therefore responsible for the types of people [I]he chooses to associate[/I] with at [I]his[/I] event.

I agree, if people give Obama shit for the man he used to pray with, why can't we give Rick Perry shit for the things his "friends" say? It's a fucking double-standard is what it is.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;31211872]I agree, if people give Obama shit for the man he used to pray with, why can't we give Rick Perry shit for the things his "friends" say? It's a fucking double-standard is what it is.[/QUOTE] Iirc obama attended his "friend's" church for a significant amount of time, perry has not done the same for HIS "friends"

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31212318]Iirc obama attended his "friend's" church for a significant amount of time, perry has not done the same for HIS "friends"[/QUOTE] Obama also distanced himself from his "friend" while Rick Perry simply said "I MIGHT not agree with EVERYTHING this person says, but I'm still going to have him run my prayer rally"

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31212318]Iirc obama attended his "friend's" church for a significant amount of time, perry has not done the same for HIS "friends"[/QUOTE] I don't recall Obama calling up Ayers and Wright to hold a rally with him on the campaign trail though. I'm really not sure why if you're running for president you invite in divisive figures like that and only say "well, it's not my opinion". What does it say about the mindset about someone who is supposed to be president of everyone, not just evangelical biblethumpers?

pretty sure that as a christian, he couldn't really deny othe christians the right to come and pray with him, unless they were planning to use the event to promote anti-gay sentiment or something.

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;31217274]pretty sure that as a christian, he couldn't really deny othe christians the right to come and pray with him, unless they were planning to use the event to promote anti-gay sentiment or something.[/QUOTE] The point is that he invited a bunch of lunatics to sponsor and endorse the rally, then made a page on the rally website showing that they endorsed him, and didn't say he didn't approve in any way, and now that he's taking heat he's trying to play it off.

but he never said he approved their views. given the large number of non-crazy sponsors he invited, you can't say that perry was selecting sponsors because they were violently anti-gay, etc. - rather, because they were christian, and in that part of the south, a disproportionate number of popular christian groups are extremely fundamentalist. if there was some sort of "smoking gun" to identify him supporting those views, things would be different, but i haven't seen one.

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;31217793]but he never said he approved their views. given the large number of non-crazy sponsors he invited, you can't say that perry was selecting sponsors because they were violently anti-gay, etc. - rather, because they were christian, and in that part of the south, a disproportionate number of popular christian groups are extremely fundamentalist. if there was some sort of "smoking gun" to identify him supporting those views, things would be different, but i haven't seen one.[/QUOTE] This "prayer rally" is supposed to be a political stump to build his credentials as a viable GOP presidential front man. He has free reign over who he chooses to invite to this, it's not like they are forcing themselves in. You should read [url=https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god]this article[/url] about Perry's stance towards religion in general. A highlight: [quote]The pastors told Perry of God’s grand plan for Texas. A chain of powerful prophecies had proclaimed that Texas was “The Prophet State,” anointed by God to lead the United States into revival and Godly government. And the governor would have a special role. The day before the meeting, Schlueter had received a prophetic message from Chuck Pierce, an influential prophet from Denton, Texas. God had apparently commanded Schlueter — through Pierce — to “pray by lifting the hand of the one I show you that is in the place of civil rule.” Gov. Perry, it seemed. Schlueter had prayed before his congregation: “Lord Jesus I bring to you today Gov. Perry. … I am just bringing you his hand and I pray Lord that he will grasp ahold of it. For if he does you will use him mightily.” And grasp ahold the governor did. At the end of their meeting, Perry asked the two pastors to pray over him. As the pastors would later recount, the Lord spoke prophetically as Schlueter laid his hands on Perry, their heads bowed before a painting of the Battle of the Alamo. Schlueter “declared over [Perry] that there was a leadership role beyond Texas and that Texas had a role beyond what people understand,” Long later told his congregation. So you have to wonder: Is Rick Perry God’s man for president?[/quote] There are plenty of Christian groups that are at least more reasonable. I don't see why he has to utilize fundamentalist ministers to push a message plenty of normal conservatives could do more rationally, unless he subscribes to their views in some way.

[QUOTE=MercZ;31218043]This "prayer rally" is supposed to be a political stump to build his credentials as a viable GOP presidential front man. He has free reign over who he chooses to invite to this, it's not like they are forcing themselves in. You should read [url=https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god]this article[/url] about Perry's stance towards religion in general. A highlight: There are plenty of Christian groups that are at least more reasonable. I don't see why he has to utilize fundamentalist ministers to push a message plenty of normal conservatives could do more rationally, unless he subscribes to their views in some way.[/QUOTE] All I can say is pretty much.