Joel Schumacher owns up to Batman mistakes, Wanted a darker take
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[release]Earlier this week, we heard from [I]Trespass[/I] director Joel Schumacher about Christopher Nolan's record-breaking run with Batman -- a character near and dear to his heart after he made not one but two films featuring the DC Comics icon.
While Schumacher's first adventure with Batman was a box-office success -- 1995's [I]Batman Forever[/I] -- his 1997 [I]Batman & Robin[/I] sequel didn't fare as well. Along with near-universal negative reviews, the film failed to perform at the box office and eventually became known as the film that "killed" the Batman franchise (until Nolan came along, of course).
"Sequels are made for one reason," Schumacher told IFC during an interview promoting his new film [I]Trespass[/I] with Nicolas Cage. "Because [I]Batman Forever[/I] was an unexpected sensation, and the second-biggest grossing movie for the whole year, and everyone made so much money out of [I]Batman Forever[/I], it was always, 'more, more more.'"
"I broke a rule of mine, which is never to do a sequel of anything," he said of [I]Batman & Robin[/I]. "They wanted me to do sequels for [I]St. Elmo's Fire[/I], [I]Flatliners[/I], [I]Lost Boys[/I], and some of the other films I've done, and I always knew that if you get lucky, walk away. But I was shooting [I]A Time To Kill[/I] and the studio had been very generous to me, and much was expected of me by the toy manufacturers and the Warner Bros. stores."
Still, Schumacher stopped short of downplaying his role in what many regard as one of the worst superhero movies ever made.
"I'm responsible for everything. I said, 'yes' and I took it on," he said. "It's not my favorite movie I've ever made, but I'm proud of my cast and I'm proud of all the artists who worked on it. I take full responsibility for [I]Batman & Robin[/I].
Still, despite the rampant negativity surrounding Schumacher's mainstream-friendly contributions to the live-action Batman movie-verse, there are quite a few things he's quick to boast about regarding his Batman. For example, he knows he's not alone in considering [I]Batman Forever[/I] star Val Kilmer one of the best versions of Bruce Wayne to appear on the big screen.
"For me, Val Kilmer was the best Batman," he said. "I thought he looked great in the costume, and I thought he brought a depth to the role. I thought the relationship between Val and Nicole Kidman was very sexy. Jim Carrey, of course, was the perfect Riddler. And then I had the great Tommy Lee Jones and a lot of other great people are in that movie."
Schumacher also revealed that, if he'd gotten his way, his second Batman film would have been more in line with Nolan's "Dark Knight" instead of the studio-friendly [I]Batman & Robin[/I].
"I think I'm the most envious of Chris Nolan because he got to do [I]The Dark Knight[/I] -- and that's the one I begged to do as my second Batman film," he said. "I wanted to do a whole other thing, because we had kind of re-invented franchise with Val as Batman and it was a very young, sexy, and much less expensive movie. We brought in Robin and I wanted to make [I]The Dark Knight [/I]desperately, but the studio didn't want that and it's their money and they're my bosses."[/release]
[url]http://www.ifc.com/news/2011/10/joel-schumacher-dark-knight-batman-forever.php[/url]
Robin is sporting some rock hard nipples.
Batgirl not so much.
Schumacher is retarded.
Batman forever was a fucking joke too, box office success or not.
I just noticed somthing... has Nolan ever made a film that was not awesome?
[QUOTE=Robber;32775807]I just noticed somthing... has Nolan ever made a film that was not awesome?[/QUOTE]Nope.
[QUOTE=Robber;32775807]I just noticed somthing... has Nolan ever made a film that was not awesome?[/QUOTE]
Inception wasn't awesome.
It was mind-blowingly literally awesome.
We forgive you.
I need to watch batman and robin again, I loved that film when i was young. I guess you just dont notice how bad things are when your so young.
[QUOTE=leach139;32775902]Inception wasn't awesome.
It was mind-blowingly literally awesome.[/QUOTE]It was awesome within awesome.
Hearing Schumacher apologizing about Batman & Robin is cool until the "but I wanted to make it dark !" part. I just can't believe for a solid second that he actually wanted to make the movie much darker and grittier, Nolan style, while he insisted himself on adding bat-nipples to the suits and much other mistakes he made.
I personally liked Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. Batman Forever was a childhood favorite for me and Batman and Robin was undoubtedly a close second. I will agree on two things though. First being that Batman and Robin could have been TONS better under the right circumstances. Second being that both these films ain't got shit on The Dark Knight
I aspire to be the next Christopher Nolan :v:
I hope.
Well at least those movies lay'd a framework for the new batman movies to work off of and make better
[QUOTE=PelPix123;32779620]He apologized on video years and years ago
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this
also rong do you post about anything other than superheroes
I'm not blaming hi for the comical approach and I loved the psychotic way of showing the Batmans enemies.
The best of the movie was the set however, Gotham looked likie a mad city and that is what every city is to a certain extent.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;32780132]this
also rong do you post about anything other than superheroes[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Robber;32775807]I just noticed somthing... has Nolan ever made a film that was not awesome?[/QUOTE]
Even his earlier shit was amazing.
Give Following a watch.
[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154506/[/url]
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Inception has a dream-burglar named Cobb....
Following has a real burglar named Cobb......
Same director.
[QUOTE=Robber;32775807]I just noticed somthing... has Nolan ever made a film that was not awesome?[/QUOTE]
Insomnia.
Allow me to break the ice...
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[QUOTE=AK'z;32791290]Allow me to break the ice...
[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l740ncv5eY1qzpvnuo1_400.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Man, you really like Mr. Freeze.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;32791358]Man, you really like Mr. Freeze.[/QUOTE]
Winter............................................................................................. has come at last.
[editline]15th October 2011[/editline]
actually it is fucking freezing outside at the moment.
[QUOTE=leach139;32775902]Inception wasn't awesome.
It was mind-blowingly literally awesome.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like i'm gonna have a good time on Tuesday. (college is doing a trip to watch the movie in the cinema)
Back on topic, those old Batman films didn't really give me any memories, barely remember them. Mr Freeze was damn corny, though; not one of Schwartzenegger's most esteemed roles. And as for the credit card, seems not too stealthy at all; kinda stupid, but then again I guess Ivy's pheromones causes men to do stupid things.
And this was the film he made before batman. Damn right he made some mistakes.
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[QUOTE=Mrglitch2000;32796773]DUDES!, Chill..
[video=youtube;SRH-Ywpz1_I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRH-Ywpz1_I[/video][/QUOTE]
The worst line in the whole movie:
[B]Can you be cold, Batman?[/B]
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