New documents prove that Japan had enslaved up to 200,000 "comfort women" - Polidicks

[img]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/4/28/1398686612875/Japan-comfort-women-011.jpg[/img] [i]Japanese women hold portraits of Chinese, Philippine, South Korean and Taiwanese former 'comfort women' who were sex slaves for Japanese soldiers during the second world war.[/i] [quote]Almost 90 documents from the archives of the military police corps – part of Japan's Kwantung army, the occupying force that propped up a puppet regime in Manchuria in the early 1930s – include letters from Japanese soldiers, newspaper articles and military files discovered in the 1950s and kept at the Jilin provincial archives in north-east China. Documents from the regime's national bank were also included. "Going through the bloodiest parts of these archives, many of us experts have succumbed to chronic depression," said the archive's director Yin Huai, according to the official China News Service. Zhao Sujian, 81, an archive employee since 1948, said that the documents were discovered by a People's Liberation Army unit in November 1953. The soldiers were digging near the remains of the Japanese base to lay pipes and fix electric cables when they stumbled on the buried cache. "At the time, these documents filled an entire truck," he told the news service. "Because they were buried for so long, most of them were stuck together, even rotted into one mass." The archive in Changchun, the provincial capital, began systematically analysing the documents in 1982, after it received them from a local law enforcement office. Most remain untranslated. Research has been slow, state media said, owing to the poor quality of the documents and a dearth of Japanese-speaking researchers.[/quote] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/28/japan-second-world-war-brothels-papers-china[/url]

Can't wait to see the ultra-nationalists' mega-denial defense against this.

I'd imagine it would benefit them the most to bring over some people on work visas from western Canada/US for translation purposes, as this is a touchy subject in Japan to my knowledge.

hardly surprising

[QUOTE=wauterboi;44680948]Can't wait to see the ultra-nationalists' mega-denial defense against this.[/QUOTE] [I]At least they were comfortable.[/I]

[QUOTE=minilandstan;44681124][I]At least they were comfortable.[/I][/QUOTE] :x I laugh at a lot of raunchy jokes but I'm not too fond of that one. I've been reading a lot about the Nanking Massacre and my funny bone does not work around that entire situation.

[QUOTE=minilandstan;44681124][I]At least they were comfortable.[/I][/QUOTE] Fuck. You. I'm a pretty crass guy but that's fucking distasteful.

[QUOTE=minilandstan;44681124][I]At least they were comfortable.[/I][/QUOTE] yo that ain't even funny especially considering how this shit is constantly swept under the rug

[QUOTE=wauterboi;44680948]Can't wait to see the ultra-nationalists' mega-denial defense against this.[/QUOTE] Some of them deny the use of using Koreans as slave labor while having Koreans who were used as slave labor living in their country. Ultra-nationalist types are hard to satisfy and you kind of don't want to satisfy them.

Say what you want about the USA, at least when our government commits war-crimes and horrific atrocities we citizens actually give a shit, complain, protest, and perhaps even admit our mistakes. The denial of war-crimes by the Japanese government is absolutely disgusting.

On one side you have Germany, who bursts into tears at the mention of WW2 and starts sobbing "I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY" over and over at you, and then you have Japan who goes "war crimes? what war crimes? surely you must be imagining things". Funny how we ended up with the extremes of both sides.

[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;44681486]Say what you want about the USA, at least when our government commits war-crimes and horrific atrocities we citizens actually give a shit, complain, protest, and perhaps even admit our mistakes. The denial of war-crimes by the Japanese government is absolutely disgusting.[/QUOTE] Pot calling the kettle black.

[QUOTE=Reds;44681534]then you have Japan who goes "war crimes? what war crimes? surely you must be imagining things". Funny how we ended up with the extremes of both sides.[/QUOTE] Most American war crimes and atrocities also get the same treatment. People either don't know about them or try to justify them/sweep them under the rug. In both cases it looks like its the older generations mostly doing this.

why does japan always have this thing about war crimes that they just wont admit them? Are they just embarrassed or ashamed or what?

[QUOTE=Scotty.;44681563]Pot calling the kettle a nigger. [sp]Use of that word is to exaggerate the phrase "pot calling the kettle black" and is in every way shape and form intended and ONLY intended to exaggerate this point[/sp][/QUOTE] oh you were just trying to exaggerate a stupid saying? i guess that totally justifies using a racial slur

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44681625]oh you were just trying to exaggerate a stupid saying? i guess that totally justifies using a racial slur[/QUOTE] Why would you need justification for using a racial slur?

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44681641]Why would you justification for using a racial slur?[/QUOTE] what? i was just pointing out that it was unnecessary and stupid to use a racial slur in that post and acting like using it to exaggerate a stupid saying made it okay is stupid

[QUOTE=minilandstan;44681124][I]At least they were comfortable.[/I][/QUOTE] Japanese soldiers raped and killed women aged 10-80 during the Rape of Nanking. Sometimes smaller children would be raped after a soldier would cut them open, often in the abdomen or stomach area, before engaging in intercourse with the open wound and leaving the child to either bleed out or die of infection. Sure sounds comfortable.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44681661]what? i was just pointing out that it was unnecessary and stupid to use a racial slur in that post and acting like using it to exaggerate a stupid saying made it okay is stupid[/QUOTE] You completely missed the point I'm making

[QUOTE=Scotty.;44681713]You completely missed the point I'm making[/QUOTE] yeah maybe, but my point is, it was unnecessary to use that word so just don't

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44681748]yeah maybe, but my point is, it was unnecessary to use that word so just don't[/QUOTE] That word MAKES the point. Otherwise it would just be bog standard hypocrisy.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;44681664]Japanese soldiers raped and killed women aged 10-80 during the Rape of Nanking. Sometimes smaller children would be raped after a soldier would cut them open, often in the abdomen or stomach area, before engaging in intercourse with the open wound and leaving the child to either bleed out or die of infection. Sure sounds comfortable.[/QUOTE] What. The. Fuck.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;44682001]What. The. Fuck.[/QUOTE] Yeah - from the papers that I read on the subject, the entire point of ripping them open like that was to make them " easier to access". among other horrors were them bayonettimg children, tossing them in the air and seeing how far they could hurl them.That entire event was one of the most messed up things I've read apart from the Japanese duel, which was two Japanese men had a bet to see how many people they could kill with their sword, and newspapers around the country were eagerly keeping score as they went about hacking people to death. And this doesn't even count the human experimentation done by Japan, Unit 731.

[QUOTE=snookypookums;44682084] And this doesn't even count the human experimentation done by Japan, Unit 731.[/QUOTE] Funny how only the Soviets actually gave a shit about prosecuting the people involved in this. The US and Japanese governments were happy to use these guys for their own research.

[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;44681611]why does japan always have this thing about war crimes that they just wont admit them? Are they just embarrassed or ashamed or what?[/QUOTE] If I were not only one of the World's biggest Juggernaut in Science and Tech, but also a pop culture beacon in terms of Anime, Manga, and J-Pop. The very lest thing I would want people to know is all the crap we've done.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44682378]Funny how only the Soviets actually gave a shit about prosecuting the people involved in this. The US and Japanese governments were happy to use these guys for their own research.[/QUOTE] Even more terrifying was the fact that they also used POW's for some of these horrific experiments but that was forgiven for any "innovation" (and I use this term in the darkest way possible) from their "research" (read "Dr. Moreau-esque experiments") On the American's side, they have the results of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip"]Operation Paperclip[/URL], which actively hired scientists from Nazi Germany. One of my relatives who works for the ISRO told me that NASA was pretty much started with a lot of the scientists recruited from germany after the fall of the Nazis, but that a lot of the motive for doing this was not so much for further advancement of their own, but rather to stop the soviets from getting them. With regards to Unit 731, this in particular is very telling: [QUOTE]After discovering the research papers, MacArthur secretly granted immunity to the physicians of Unit 731, including their leader, in exchange for providing America, but not the other wartime allies, with their research on biological warfare and data from human experimentation. American occupation authorities monitored the activities of former unit members, including reading and censoring their mail. The U.S. believed that the research data was valuable. The U.S. did not want other nations, particularly the Soviet Union, to acquire data on biological weapons.[/QUOTE]

IJA had some inspirational morals, like "Death before dishonor" and the like. But seeing as they were the army most deserving of the title "monsters", trying to justify for them is like pouring a glass of water into a sea of piss. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Also Regarding U731, when the americans later wanted more of the research papers they had to pay up. a negotiator is rumored to have said "We got all these papers for $200.000, we got a bargain!". They got a bargain, for this deal with the devil. If there is a hell, I hope Shiro Ishi is in it's deepest and mosty fiery pit.

[QUOTE=Radley;44683831]IJA had some inspirational morals, like "Death before dishonor" and the like.[/QUOTE] That was just a phrase to work people up. Japanese had a very soviet-esque way where they would rather die than lose a battle. But unlike the soviets who were forced for the most, Japanese were brainwashed into thinking that was ok. It was disgusting.

[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;44681486]Say what you want about the USA, at least when our government commits war-crimes and horrific atrocities we citizens actually give a shit, complain, protest, and perhaps even admit our mistakes. The denial of war-crimes by the Japanese government is absolutely disgusting.[/QUOTE] Just as an aside, the Japanese government has actually not denied the war crimes and numerous government officials since even the 1950s have issued official apologies: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan#2010s[/url] There's been eight in the past 5 years alone. Now of course some of the more extreme members of the currently ruling, centre-right party the LDP make shit comments about how the extent wasn't as bad or some details didn't happen, but if that is what you're talking about, be honest and say that, don't say 'the Japanese government'. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Like for god's sake, the picture in the OP is of [I]Japanese women[/I] trying to spread awareness about the history of this atrocity. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Shinzo Abe, the newest prime minister in particular, is a pretty shitty dude when it comes to the neighboring countries, but even when he denied the particular 'sex slave' aspect and tried to paint it as an issue of prostitution, after an uproar he was made to issue an apology less than a month later.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;44681664]Japanese soldiers raped and killed women aged 10-80 during the Rape of Nanking. Sometimes smaller children would be raped after a soldier would cut them open, often in the abdomen or stomach area, before engaging in intercourse with the open wound and leaving the child to either bleed out or die of infection. Sure sounds comfortable.[/QUOTE] Did japanese soldiers jerk off to electric retard or something? There's so much fucked up war crimes that don't even make sense.