Buying used games/movies/music is wore than pirating them - General

You might be thinking "HOLY SHIT IDIOT WANKA PIRACY KILLS VIDEOGAME INDUSTRY etc..." But please bear with me. When you buy a used game, as an example, in GAME (UK) or Gamestop(US) you are not giving any money at all to the original developers. This means [b]you are robbing them[/b]. However, you are also giving income to GAME/Gamestop from used games, allowing them to continue. A pirate on the other hand, is [b]only doing the robbing part[/b]. (ps not my opinion) IMO: They are both bad. When you buy used, atleast some royalties should go the original dev PREPARE FOR FLAMING! (ps not my opinion)

How is allowing a company to continue a bad thing?

But the game has still been bought [del]by[/del] from the producers. So that is better than piracy that give no money to the producers. Little is better than nothing.

I am rating you dumb, not because you are incorrect, but because [QUOTE=Eltro102;27670885]"HOLY SHIT IDIOT WANKA PIRACY KILLS VIDEOGAME INDUSTRY etc..."[/QUOTE] that is the most idiotic thing I've heard all day.

[QUOTE=DaMoggen;27670914]But the game has still been bought by the producers. So that is better than piracy that give no money to the producers. Little is better than nothing.[/QUOTE] But how do you think the pirates crack the game in the first place, or upload a movie? They have to buy at least 1 copy.

No it's not because the game you buy used has at least been purchased once new so the company do actually get money for the product unlike pirating where they never get any money.

Buying used games/movies/music has no impact on the companies what so ever. Instead of making shit up, how about you take an economics class. The used product has already been paid for/accounted for once, the company has received it's money for that ONE unit. That ONE unit is not the property of the company any more, so they shouldn't get any more money for the physical copy. It is the buyer's property, and it is their choice on whether or not to sell it. Piracy is arguably not bad because it is not stealing, no money is really lost. A copy is taken of the game, you are not stealing physical units. Most pirates won't have bought the game/music/movie anyways, piracy or not.

[QUOTE=Eltro102;27670885](ps not my opinion)[/QUOTE] If it's not your opinion and you're not advocating for it, then why are you posting it?

Buying used products for less is as old as humanity. If Sahir buys a goat from Fashir and then sells it a year later to Klaattu, should Fashir get Klaattu's money? [B]NO[/B]

[QUOTE=Eltro102;27670885]This means [b]you are robbing them[/b]. [/QUOTE] How? Resale isn't robbing anyone.

I see that most people disagreeing with this opinion are basing their argument around "One copy is atleast sold" But, usually when a game is pirated, atleast one copy has to be bought. Yes I understand the arguments against this. Also, if people didn't buy used games, then GAMEstop would stop selling them... I say again, this wasn't my opinion, just an interesting one I though about EDIT: Im gonna edit the OP slightly

[QUOTE=Eltro102;27670885] When you buy a used game, as an example, in GAME (UK) or Gamestop(US) you are not giving any money at all to the original developers. This means [b]you are robbing them[/b]. [/QUOTE] By your analogy, if laws are enforced to prevent one from selling their own used possessions, would that mean the developers are robbing you instead? [QUOTE=Eltro102;27670885] When you buy a used game, as an example, in GAME (UK) or Gamestop(US) you are not giving any money at all to the original developers. This means [b]you are robbing them[/b]. ... A pirate on the other hand, is [b]only doing the robbing part[/b]. [/QUOTE] So I'm either robbing them, or robbing them. Your statement makes no sense.

So, saying it isn't your opinion, leaves NO side to argue against. Shit thread. Completely fucking useless with NO point because it is an opinion with NO backing what so ever, formed on a shoddy foundation. Please refrain from making threads in the future, you're quite bad at it.

This is almost as stupid as the [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1053158-Rallying-Supporters-Against-Indies]"Rallying supporters against indie developers"[/url] thread. :v:

Also you're using robbing the wrong way. rob - take something away by force or without the consent of the owner; "The burglars robbed him of all his money" I wouldn't hold Kotick at gun point while I download all is MW2s!!!!!!

Op is a 12 year old that doesn't understand that pirating games, the game has only been bought once, but used games, they have been bought more than once, sorry if you can't understand that, I just woke up lol.

[QUOTE=Eltro102;27670885]You might be thinking "HOLY SHIT IDIOT WANKA PIRACY KILLS VIDEOGAME INDUSTRY etc..." But please bear with me. When you buy a used game, as an example, in GAME (UK) or Gamestop(US) you are not giving any money at all to the original developers. This means [b]you are robbing them[/b]. However, you are also giving income to GAME/Gamestop from used games, allowing them to continue. A pirate on the other hand, is [b]only doing the robbing part[/b]. IMO: They are both bad PREPARE FOR FLAMING! (ps not my opinion)[/QUOTE] This opinion is bad and you should feel bad for posting it.

[quote] IMO: They are both bad PREPARE FOR FLAMING! (ps not my opinion)[/quote] are you special or something? What sounds like your opinion. YOUR HONEST opinion. Is not your opinion???

[QUOTE=B!N4RY;27671079]By your analogy, if laws are enforced to prevent one from selling their own used possessions, would that mean the developers are robbing you instead? So I'm either robbing them, or robbing them. Your statement makes no sense.[/QUOTE] Yes, but when your buying used your allowing GAMEstop to continue selling used games. Editing the OP slightly again

[QUOTE=Eltro102;27670885] IMO: They are both bad. When you buy used, atleast some royalties should go the original dev [/QUOTE] They get 60 dollars for each unit, sell millions, and make ridiculous amounts of money. The original devs don't need any more money, because the unit has already been paid for IN FULL. [B]ONCE THE PRODUCT LEAVES THE SHOP, IT IS NO LONGER THEIR CONCERN, THEY HAVE RECEIVED THE FULL ASKING PRICE FOR THE PRODUCT. Most games are priced so that if # amount of games gets sold, they make X amount of money which will be higher than the game cost, it is already pre-calculated. They have in their minds, what their units sold goal is, and if they don't sell enough, IT WAS A SHIT GAME. [/B]in most cases

If only the digital industry was thrown into the free market, the idea of resale that keeps places like gamestop in buisness would make sense. I mean stuff like clothes get reused/resold/duplicated/counterfeited, why shouldn't used copy of games? All free market industries make ten fold than limited market anyway.

[QUOTE=Eltro102;27671187]Yes, but when your buying used your allowing GAMEstop to continue selling used games.[/QUOTE] So you would most likely say that if I sell my used game on eBay, craigslist, or where ever myself, I would be robbing Gamestop too? [QUOTE=Eltro102;27671187]Editing the OP slightly again[/QUOTE] Honestly, you know little about the essentials of economy at all. Please stop trying to cover yourself up. [QUOTE=Eltro102;27670885] IMO: They are both bad. When you buy used, atleast some royalties should go the original dev[/QUOTE] The devs have already got the money when the first hand buyer purchased the game for the full price. People don't usually start selling the games until the value of the game depreciates from time.

OP is a genius, by not buying games from companies it'll make them stronger

Someone initially buys the game(this pays for the development, shipping and finally profit and rent of the store), he sells it to store gets money, store puts game back on display on a lower price that will pay for the rent of the store and profit, you buy the game and essentially pay for the store's rent and profit not the developer. Or the store would need some kind of contract with developers but that's unlikely

i just had a heart attack from how awesome this idea is [editline]27th January 2011[/editline] send this man donations maybe he can give us even better ideas [editline]27th January 2011[/editline] all hail Eltro102 our lord and saviour of the video game industry truly we live in a blessed age

[quote]However, you are also giving income to GAME/Gamestop from used games, allowing them to continue.[/quote] What's so bad about that?

[I]also, the more you have to edit your original post, the stupider you look [/I]because it shows a clear lack of thought put into the thread. you have no knowledge on the topic you're arguing on, and you didn't even make an effort when making the thread

Selling your games provides the new owner the same experience for budget prize, I don't see a good reason why good games shouldn't be sold.

Sharing in real life terms isn't a morally bad thing to do at all. This thread is redundant.

Holy fucking shit there's no robbing on either part, op is fucking dumb and I don't care if it is his opinion or not