Blacks Are Good at Basketball. Whites are good at...? - General

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxwVUbYXVJg[/media] Old video that I came across today, I thought it was pretty funny.

writing as I watch, not assuming any bias beforehand: Woman at 2:20 is so damn close but ARRRRRGH. I find it a little unfair of him to be asking random people in the streets. I can justify anything using that because most people won't be educated on most areas (me, too, on some things) and can be coaxed into saying almost any silly thing. I kind of want him to stop beating up these poor people and actually begin educating :v:.

The second I was born I was already blessed with being a middle class white male so my life started off very well

There's a big difference in complexity and interconnectivity between sports and situations that heavily depend on the socio-economic environment. He should compare what is comparable, if he asked them if they think whites are better at swimming he'd get a more concise and to-the-point answer from them. Of course asking more complex questions yields more confused and blurry answers.

Whites are good at returning home from the store after getting a pack of smokes. (I joke ofc)

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51638090]Basketball isnt really analogous to school tests If he wanted to demonstrate a double standard, he shouldve gotten a better analogy. Blacks are overrepresented at Basketball due to x,y,z reasons: He should have picked a subject where Whites are overrepresented due to same reasons, that would have really demonstrated a point if people applied double standards. But when you make analogies economic success and academic score and similar infinitely more complex subjects, you do not disprove the lady at 2:20. She stays right and unconvinced: She can say that keeping jobs and paying bills are more complex questions that open a lot of cans of worms and she would be right. That just isnt similar to basketball at all.[/QUOTE] Yeah it really let me down when he used that as an analogy. Yet he did get them to fall for the trap once he brings up Asians.

Asians score better on tests because at least in Japan starting from a young age isn't school like up to 12 hours a day? Black people dominate sports more because of their physical form, it's evolutionary more athletic White People outscoring black people on tests is based mostly on what teaching methods were used on them. as a white man I'm more athletic then that fat black man and smarter than that slacker asian guy But I'm a dumber than 100% of people who take high education ie Steven Hawkens, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku and less athletic than 100% of anyone that plays sports professionally. It's all cultural. Asian people are generally smarter because that is how they are raised Black people are generally more athletic because they are pushed into sports White people are generally more economically stable because we are living up to our ancestors I mean that's my shitty opinion.

Guy says its cultural, yet interviewer keeps trying to bring it back to race. Once they got their shot of the guy taking a second to think, they end the clip.

[QUOTE=RudeMcRude;51638490]Asians score better on tests because at least in Japan starting from a young age isn't school like up to 12 hours a day? Black people dominate sports more because of their physical form, it's evolutionary more athletic White People outscoring black people on tests is based mostly on what teaching methods were used on them. as a white man I'm more athletic then that fat black man and smarter than that slacker asian guy But I'm a dumber than 100% of people who take high education ie Steven Hawkens, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku and less athletic than 100% of anyone that plays sports professionally. It's all cultural. Asian people are generally smarter because that is how they are raised Black people are generally more athletic because they are pushed into sports White people are generally more economically stable because we are living up to our ancestors I mean that's my shitty opinion.[/QUOTE] Whoa, no, black people don't have a particular gene that makes them more athletic. Race is phenotypical, your genetic makeup may have something to do with your athletic ability but it has nothing to do with race, it has to do with what genes you get from your parents. Otherwise, African teams would dominate FIBA basketball tournaments and yet, they clearly don't. It's also mostly perception and doesn't actually hold true when you actually just shift things around to another country. Particularly, Finnish kids score as well as Japanese kids in international tests despite being culturally and genetically quite different, in Poland the poor people are all white since everyone's white; and with sports, as proven by the Olympics, so long as a particular sport is popular in a country that increases the amount of practitioners, which increases the pool of actual talent, which means you're more likely to find someone who's actually really good at it. Many countries have artificially created said interest (programmes for kids, cash incentives, etc...), and produced Olympic talent out of nothing.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;51638710]Whoa, no, black people don't have a particular gene that makes them more athletic.[/QUOTE] Read the entire post, He's saying that's bullshit.

[QUOTE=RudeMcRude;51638490]Asians score better on tests because at least in Japan starting from a young age isn't school like up to 12 hours a day? Black people dominate sports more because of their physical form, it's evolutionary more athletic White People outscoring black people on tests is based mostly on what teaching methods were used on them. as a white man I'm more athletic then that fat black man and smarter than that slacker asian guy But I'm a dumber than 100% of people who take high education ie Steven Hawkens, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku and less athletic than 100% of anyone that plays sports professionally. It's all cultural. Asian people are generally smarter because that is how they are raised Black people are generally more athletic because they are pushed into sports White people are generally more economically stable because we are living up to our ancestors I mean that's my shitty opinion.[/QUOTE] More to it than just saying "culture." Statements like "Asian people are smarter" are terrible because of how reductionist they are. Who, where, and what are their backgrounds? If I grab some Cambodian farmer kids and make them take the SAT, they will most likely do horribly. And likewise, if I grab children of wealthy African migrants (AKA, the ones who can easily get in now, and who have very different circumstances than most black people generally have,) they'll very likely do fantastic at the SATs compared to poor white trailer park kids. The thing about poverty is that it's very tied to the conditions you grow up in. If I grew up in a shitty ghetto with garbage schools and no local job opportunities chances are I'd be awful at academics and would probably wind up in a life of crime. Race is used because its tied to our history, but really it's specific socio-economic classes/populations.

Values and culture are infinitely more important than race when it comes to success. Sadly, education is not a strong value found in many urban cultures while being incredibly important in many asian cultures.

Aren't black people better at basketball because they have a different type of muscle fiber than white people? (I think it's something like most black people have fast twitch muscle fibers and most white people have slow twitch muscle fibers) I'm not sure if this is true or not, I just remember reading about that one time.

This is such a garbage video. It is in the same league as flat earth proof videos and anything else that constantly ignores the actual complexity of issues in order to continually confirm their own opinion.

[QUOTE=Cpt. Cakes;51638936]Aren't black people better at basketball because they have a different type of muscle fiber than white people? (I think it's something like most black people have fast twitch muscle fibers and most white people have slow twitch muscle fibers) I'm not sure if this is true or not, I just remember reading about that one time.[/QUOTE] It probably doesn't matter much in basketball, where height and technique are more important, but there's a reason Kenya and Ethiopia have produced 246 of the top 300 marathon runners.

[QUOTE=Smeetin;51639085]This is such a garbage video. It is in the same league as flat earth proof videos and anything else that constantly ignores the actual complexity of issues in order to continually confirm their own opinion.[/QUOTE] I don't think the point is to show that white people are inherently smarter than black people, but to show the inconsistent logic behind much of the thinking behind commonly assumed truths as they relate to racial disparities. I saw two main points that were made: 1) The double standard behind attributing racial superiority for any group other than whites. People don't feel the need to think about the complexities behind black people being seemingly better at basketball. They are perfectly fine attributing it to black athletic superiority, but in the reverse case, when whites do better than blacks, everyone is very interested in finding the complexity behind the disparity in results. I wish the video would have used the example of white people being better at swimming, though. I think he would have gotten a similar response (the respondents would have given reasons like white people being more wealthy, and therefore growing up in an environment where swimming is common luxury) and the conclusion would have been a lot stronger. 2) The causes given by people, that tests are made to culturally favor whites, doesn't hold up when you look at all minorities. It's an easy answer that falls very short in providing an actual explanation, yet it's a very commonly held view. This inconsistency points to the attempt to give every group, other than whites, a victim status that pushes the blame away from the group in question. In effect, whites are always tried to be made out as the reason for failure, even in other groups.

I think your read is much more interesting than the guy asking the questions in OP's video.

Whites are good at feeling guilty

Is the correct answer genocide?

[QUOTE=sgman91;51639197] 2) The causes given by people, that tests are made to culturally favor whites, doesn't hold up when you look at all minorities. It's an easy answer that falls very short in providing an actual explanation, yet it's a very commonly held view. This inconsistency points to the attempt to give every group, other than whites, a victim status that pushes the blame away from the group in question. In effect, whites are always tried to be made out as the reason for failure, even in other groups.[/QUOTE] Which would be bullshit, as the tests would have to be made to culturally favor asians if they do. They get better tests result in general.

I came into this thread thinking it was gonna be about a certain old movie... [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/White_men_cant_jump.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=laserpanda;51639114]It probably doesn't matter much in basketball, where height and technique are more important, but there's a reason Kenya and Ethiopia have produced 246 of the top 300 marathon runners.[/QUOTE] I think the reason those countries produce more runners is their average limb proportions.

[video=youtube;a81KQGsp3tk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a81KQGsp3tk[/video]

I assumed he was going to make his point using sports whites are over represented in like swimming and weight lifting. You can't compare a sport to cultural norms and job success. This guy is terrible at racism.

Blacks are better at night missions, Whites are better are arctic missions.