Bulgarian School May Be Renamed from Lenin to Steve Jobs - Polidicks

[QUOTE][IMG]http://www.novinite.com/media/images/2011-11/photo_verybig_133710.jpg[/IMG]A Bulgarian school is to be renamed from "Vladimir Lenin" to "Steve Jobs". File photos A [B]secondary [B]school[/B][/B] based in Bulgaria's 2nd largest Bulgarian city of Plovdiv may be named after [B]Apple[/B]'s late founder [B]Steve Jobs[/B]. The [B]school[/B] that is specialized in providing technical education in the field of[B]electronics[/B] considers choosing a new name as it approaches its 50th anniversary. Until recently, it was named after Soviet leader [B]Vladimir Ilyich Lenin[/B]. As students and teachers debating the name issue, [B]Steve Jobs[/B] is among the front runners to replace Lenin, the local TV 7 reports. However, some insist that the[B]school[/B] should be named after a Bulgarian scientist instead. As the secondary technical [B]school[/B] turns 50, it will have access to central heating for the first time in its history. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=133710"]http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=133710 [/URL]Seriously? Lenin actually did something great. I know you bunch of facepunchers will go and say 'OH YOU COMMUNIST!'.

All Steve Jobs did was get rich off other peoples ideas Then again, Lenin gained power through the ideas of marx and that other guy nobody can name

Lenin > Steve Jobs I'm so tired of HE'S DEAD THAT MEANS HE WAS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER TOUCH THE EARTH (not Job's specifically but like any dead quasi famous person)

wow really? everyone is taking his death WAY too seriously

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;33193804]Lenin > Steve Jobs I'm so tired of HE'S DEAD THAT MEANS HE WAS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER TOUCH THE EARTH (not Job's specifically but like any dead quasi famous person)[/QUOTE]Such as Lenin?

Here comes Apple with the lawsuits for using his name

When you think about it, they're surprisingly similar.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;33193930]When you think about it, they're surprisingly similar.[/QUOTE] Am I the only one to notice that they look [B]ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME[/B] in those photos?

I'd keep the name Lenin for the school. Doesn't really make sense even if Steve Jobs was as prominent as Lenin, considering it's Bulgaria. [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] The latter suggestion in the article would be fine too, a Bulgarian scientist.

[QUOTE=Ermac20;33193808]wow really? everyone is taking his death WAY too seriously[/QUOTE] What's wrong with that? Are we supposed to take death comically? Death is a serious thing, and should be dealt with as such.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Lenin will live for eternity. Jobs was some asshole salesman. No seriously, people who knew him called him an asshole.

Iunno man, I'm a socialist and all, and a Marxist, but I don't really like Lenin much. I mean, he was kind of a dictator whose cheka (it was the cheka, right?) killed lots of people for having different opinions, many innocent. And he was a terrorist. And he hung innocent civilians. And he kind of hijacked a legitimate socially democratic government brought in by popular revolution. I'd rather see Jobs' name than Lenin's, honestly.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;33194039]What's wrong with that? Are we supposed to take death comically? Death is a serious thing, and should be dealt with as such.[/QUOTE] A person dies, then suddenly gets fame for shit he didn't do, gets crowned king of the known universe all year every year and is suddenly the inventor of everything ever. Yes seems perfectly fine of a response to a person dying.

I wish my old secondary School spent money on fucking central heating and not fucking laptops, they were only discussing getting rid of the peat/coal burner in the last year I last left in 2009. Good luck in that happening now...they spent their budget on a fucking wall and a gate.

[QUOTE=Miskav;33194099]A person dies, then suddenly gets fame for shit he didn't do, gets crowned king of the known universe all year every year and is suddenly the inventor of everything ever. Yes seems perfectly fine of a response to a person dying.[/QUOTE] It's called honoring the dead, and sure, it is often taken too far, but overall it's a respectful thing to do.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;33194039]What's wrong with that? Are we supposed to take death comically? Death is a serious thing, and should be dealt with as such.[/QUOTE] i know... its a big deal jobs was a very influential figure and his death was saddening but renaming a school after him is just ridiculous

[QUOTE=Ermac20;33194144]i know... its a big deal jobs was a very influential figure and his death was saddening but renaming a school after him is just ridiculous[/QUOTE] I agree, especially considering he isn't even bulgarian

People act like Jobbs was Jesus He was a dick, and a big one

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];33194091']Iunno man, I'm a socialist and all, and a Marxist, but I don't really like Lenin much. I mean, he was kind of a dictator whose cheka (it was the cheka, right?) killed lots of people for having different opinions, many innocent. And he was a terrorist. And he hung innocent civilians. And he kind of hijacked a legitimate socially democratic government brought in by popular revolution. I'd rather see Jobs' name than Lenin's, honestly.[/QUOTE] Wasn't that Stalin..?

A Russian revolutionary or an American businessman? I would go for the Bulgarian scientist

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;33193930]When you think about it, they're surprisingly similar.[/QUOTE] Yes, a Russian Marxist Revolutionary and an American Businessman. It's like they're the same person. [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lambeth;33194352]A Russian revolutionary or an American businessman? I would go for the Bulgarian scientist[/QUOTE] You god damn ninja

Steve Jobs <-------> Vladimir Lenin Invented Apple <-------> Created the first Communist nation Right then, hard decision, amirite?

[QUOTE=Blue2Red;33194235]Wasn't that Stalin..?[/QUOTE] Stalin was worse, and I'd hardly consider Stalin a communist, but Lenin was also bad. In February of 1917 a popular revolution forced the Tsar's puppet government to dissolve and a parliament-style government was formed, with almost all the major parties Socialists, Social Democrats, or Communists, and Kerensky as the head. Some members of the Tsar's government were given positions of power so that things weren't without leadership or experienced leaders. It was a democratic republic, abolished the death penalty, gave equal rights to women, etc etc, all the good stuff. It supported continuing WWI. That cost it. It lost alot of its initial support because dragging on the war cost lives, bread, and happiness. In October 1917, the Bolsheviks, without popular support, took control of Petrograd and removed the government. They immediately redistributed property, forced banks to give them their money, and stopped all anti-Bolshevik press. The Bolsheviks were unhappy that the government was continuing the war and was using Tsarists in the government and military. Officers in the army were murdered in large amounts when the soldiers rebelled. There was alot of chaos and drunkenness for the first week. Many members of the old government were executed. The civil war started with everyone vs. the Bolsheviks. While the Bolshevik government was in theory a republic, Lenin had de facto final say. His hanging order is well known. He created the Cheka, putting a ruthless man in charge who wanted to kill the rich, and set its headquarters in the old Tsarist secret police building. Thousands of innocents and dissenters were murdered in a short period, without trial or evidence. The Red Terror. Many claim that Lenin wasn't as bad as Stalin, but from what I've read, Lenin was hardly a saint. Stalin killed millions, but Lenin killed "Executed: 50-200,000. Died in prison or killed in revolts: 400,000". Leninists tend to justify this by saying that the Whites carried out mass violence and executions as well, and they did, but mass killings, often baseless, is not a justifiable act. That and Lenin seemed rather disingenuous in his beliefs. His writings say A, but he does B. Not as bad as Stalin, but still. I also dislike him for splitting the unified Russian Social Democratic Labor Party, which contained almost all the socialist, progressive, liberal, and communist groups together in a single political entity, because he refused to work with those of slightly differing beliefs. Funny enough, he waged war on the same groups in the Russian Civil War, clumping them in with the monarchists and capitalists. Kind of a douche move.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;33194135]It's called honoring the dead, and sure, it is often taken too far, but overall it's a respectful thing to do.[/QUOTE] Yes, and it's called honoring the dead, not idolizing the dead where everyone goes apeshit and renames schools after them.

So, they're changing it from being named after a communist leader... to being named after a capitalist businessman. ... That's a huge switch. And by that I mean that it's a completely motherfucking huge switch. Seriously, Lenin -> Jobs? What the fuck?

I'm sorry to say it, but I thought when Steve Jobs died he wouldn't bug the fuck out of me as much. [B]I was wrong.[/B]

I can't wait to visit my grandparents in Jobsingrad.

As much as Jobs does not deserve this, is Lenin really that much of a better name? The guy founded the Soviet Union on the blood of millions of Russians. Just because Stalin made him look like a good guy does not mean Lenin deserves any positive credit. [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] Fuck I am late.

[QUOTE=person11;33195452]As much as Jobs does not deserve this, is Lenin really that much of a better name? The guy founded the Soviet Union on the blood of millions of Russians. Just because Stalin made him look like a good guy does not mean Lenin deserves any positive credit.[/QUOTE] Neither of them deserves any positive credit, but at least Lenin really was an important person, unlike Jobs, who was just a CEO that ripped off his customers.

[QUOTE=person11;33195452]As much as Jobs does not deserve this, is Lenin really that much of a better name? The guy founded the Soviet Union on the blood of millions of Russians. Just because Stalin made him look like a good guy does not mean Lenin deserves any positive credit. [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] Fuck I am late.[/QUOTE] Lenin deserves some positive credit, as well as negative credit. However, given that this is a Bulgarian school, the Bulgarian scientist would be more appropriate. Use Lenin's name for a Russian school or something.