Man allegedly steals $100K coin collection, then spends at face value on pizza and a movie - Polidicks

[quote]A young couple in Washington state may be guilty of committing an expensive crime for pennies on the dollar. Dakoda Garren, 19, has been charged with stealing a rare coin collection worth $100,000 and spending the coins at face value on a movie and pizza with his girlfriend. The Columbian reports that a woman living in Woodland had her family coin collection stolen in May and says that Garren and his girlfriend Elizabeth Massman were the only people to visit her home during that period, when they were hired to do some part-time work. Garren denied the accusation back in May, telling police they "didn't have any evidence against him," according to a report filed in Cowlitz County Superior Court. But then Garren and Massman allegedly began using the coins at local establishments, spending them at face value, including a quarter that is estimated to be worth thousands of dollars. The Daily News reports the collection includes a variety of rare coins, such as Liberty Head quarters, Morgan dollars and several others dating back to the early 1800s. After conducting their investigation, police now say the couple spent several 1930s coins at a Battle Ground-area movie theater, using quarters worth between $5 and $68 each. Later on the same day, they spent more of the coin collection at a local pizza restaurant, including a Liberty quarter with an estimated value between $1,100 and $18,500. Garren has been charged with first-degree theft and is being held in jail on $40,000 bail. Which, technically, is an amount he could easily afford if the valuable coin collection were actually his. For now, police have declined to detain Massman, saying she is nine months pregnant.[/quote] [url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-allegedly-steals-100k-coin-collection-then-spends-214047054.html?_esi=1]Source[/url]

That's like stealing someone's LCD TV and using it to balance your coffeetable.

Imbecille...

I hope that pizza was worth it.

Hopefully the police can try to track down the cash, though most of it's probably gone forever by now. Kinda reminds me of when someone I knew stole a $20 from like the 50's and spent it on pot.

[quote] Later on the same day, they spent more of the coin collection at a local pizza restaurant, including a Liberty quarter with an estimated value between $1,100 and $18,500.[/quote] Fucking OW!

100K well spent

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;37770865]Hopefully the police can try to track down the cash, though most of it's probably gone forever by now. Kinda reminds me of when someone I knew stole a $20 from like the 50's and spent it on pot.[/QUOTE] Gone forever? It's not like it's smelted or anything, if the money gets back to circulation it will most likely reach someone at some point who knows what it's worth. Original owner, on the other hand, won't probably see it anymore.

I wonder what the face value of the coins was

[QUOTE=ForestRaptor;37770903]Gone forever? It's not like it's smelted or anything, if the money gets back to circulation it will most likely reach someone at some point who knows what it's worth. Original owner, on the other hand, won't probably see it anymore.[/QUOTE] Every time I get a coin I haven't seen before I wonder if it's worth a lot.

[QUOTE=ForestRaptor;37770903]Gone forever? It's not like it's smelted or anything, if the money gets back to circulation it will most likely reach someone at some point who knows what it's worth. [b]Original owner, on the other hand, won't probably see it anymore.[/b][/QUOTE] That's kinda the fucking point dude.

Wait, will this guy get the same jail sentence as say someone who stole 100k cash from some rich guy, or will he get a lighter sentence because he didn't know what the rare coins where worth?

[QUOTE=\\;37771180]Wait, will this guy get the same jail sentence as say someone who stole 100k cash from some rich guy, or will he get a lighter sentence because he didn't know what the rare coins where worth?[/QUOTE]He should get a sentence that reflects 100k worth of goods being stolen. Just because you steal a 1000$ TV and think it's worth 100$ does not mean your sentence should be lighter.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;37771383]He should get a sentence that reflects 100k worth of goods being stolen. Just because you steal a 1000$ TV and think it's worth 100$ does not mean your sentence should be lighter.[/QUOTE] So if you break into someone's house and steal a key which you thought was for their car, but turns out to be able of unlocking the secrets of everything in the universe, should you be charged for manslaughter because you inhibited the release of a cure for cancer?

[QUOTE=Zerohe;37771926]So if you break into someone's house and steal a key which you thought was for their car, but turns out to be able of unlocking the secrets of everything in the universe, should you be charged for manslaughter because you inhibited the release of a cure for cancer?[/QUOTE] You lost me at "manslaughter".

[QUOTE=Zerohe;37771926]So if you break into someone's house and steal a key which you thought was for their car, but turns out to be able of unlocking the secrets of everything in the universe, should you be charged for manslaughter because you inhibited the release of a cure for cancer?[/QUOTE] Obviously it should be case to case, not definite.

makes me sick

[QUOTE=Zerohe;37771926]So if you break into someone's house and steal a key which you thought was for their car, but turns out to be able of unlocking the secrets of everything in the universe, should you be charged for manslaughter because you inhibited the release of a cure for cancer?[/QUOTE] That's a pretty stupid analogy. Yes, if someone breaks into a place and steals an heirloom worth millions of dollars, they should be charged for stealing millions of dollars, whether or not they had any prior knowledge of its worth.

[QUOTE=Zerohe;37771926]So if you break into someone's house and steal a key which you thought was for their car, but turns out to be able of unlocking the secrets of everything in the universe, should you be charged for manslaughter because you inhibited the release of a cure for cancer?[/QUOTE] That's one of the worst comparisons I've ever seen.

How the hell did he manage to use out of circulation coins? Up here in canada stuff like the 50 cent piece and the silver dollar are not legal tender no matter what store you go to. You can't even use the old $2 bill.

[QUOTE=MIPS;37772691]How the hell did he manage to use out of circulation coins? Up here in canada stuff like the 50 cent piece and the silver dollar are not legal tender no matter what store you go to. You can't even use the old $2 bill.[/QUOTE] All US currency will remain legal tender, always iirc.

[QUOTE=Zerohe;37771926]So if you break into someone's house and steal a key which you thought was for their car, but turns out to be able of unlocking the secrets of everything in the universe, should you be charged for manslaughter because you inhibited the release of a cure for cancer?[/QUOTE] You must be the thief.

As a coin collector, this thread makes me cringe hard.

[QUOTE=Zerohe;37771926]So if you break into someone's house and steal a key which you thought was for their car, but turns out to be able of unlocking the secrets of everything in the universe, should you be charged for manslaughter because you inhibited the release of a cure for cancer?[/QUOTE] Wait, what?

That must have been a mighty fine pizza and movie.

The perfect crime!

[QUOTE=Zerohe;37771926]So if you break into someone's house and steal a key which you thought was for their car, but turns out to be able of unlocking the secrets of everything in the universe, should you be charged for manslaughter because you inhibited the release of a cure for cancer?[/QUOTE] Though this a horribly phrased analogy the point it's making is right. The rehabilitation someone needs through prison is about the crime they intended to commit, not the effects of their actions. Punishing someone for a crime they didn't know they were comitting serves no purpose.

[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;37773035]Though this a horribly phrased analogy the point it's making is right. The rehabilitation someone needs through prison is about the crime they intended to commit, not the effects of their actions. Punishing someone for a crime they didn't know they were comitting serves no purpose.[/QUOTE] They still stole something, no matter it's value. Theft is theft. Even though I feel they shouldn't be arrested for it, it's still the fact...

Wow, looking back now, and you guys are right: that was one shitty analogy I made, I apologize for that I still maintain what I meant though, even though I was playing devil's advocate. It can work both ways, someone can claim "oh i didn't know these gold bricks were worth that much, I just wanted enough to go buy a sandwich" whereas someone else could break into a house actually LOOKING for some money to buy a sandwich to survive the night and end up stealing a coin collection It might seem like a stupid point to make, but just think about it, even though criminals are criminals, they aren't all the same

[QUOTE=itisjuly;37771383]He should get a sentence that reflects 100k worth of goods being stolen. Just because you steal a 1000$ TV and think it's worth 100$ does not mean your sentence should be lighter.[/QUOTE] actually it does