Poll: Brits favor leaving EU by 9 percent margin - Polidicks

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/LnNZydb.jpg?1[/IMG] [QUOTE=UPI]More voters in Great Britain favor seeing their country leave the European Union, a survey released Friday indicates, as hopes for a deal in Brussels dimmed. A [URL="http://www.tns-bmrb.co.uk/press-release/leave-leads-voters-believe-uk-will-remain-within-eu"]survey[/URL] by the polling firm TNS showed that 36 percent of voters want Britain to leave the EU, compared to 27 percent who want it to remain in the union. Twenty-three percent said they were undecided and 7 percent said they would not vote on a referendum. When asked how they expected the referendum to turn out, 38 percent said they thought Britain would stay in the union, compared to 28 percent who expected it to leave. The online survey of 1,120 adults was conducted from Feb. 11 to Feb. 15.[/QUOTE] You won't leave. [URL="http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/02/19/Poll-Brits-favor-leaving-EU-by-9-percent-margin/6701455891070/?spt=sec&or=tn"]Source[/URL].

yet apparently ~60% of people in scotland are in favour of the eu, cant wait to get dragged out on account of the scaremongering psychos

23% undecided is a lot, can't really tell a lot from that.

Not that it matters. David Cameron is a supporter of the EU and will obviously only set a referendum date when he thinks most people will vote to stay in.

Surely there are only disadvantages for the UK if they leave the EU? They'll have to negotiate trade agreements for every European country.

Us leaving would be a disaster in general for both parties, I wouldn't like to see the longterm results.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49774576]Us leaving would be a disaster in general for both parties, I wouldn't like to see the longterm results.[/QUOTE] I think it would be even more a disaster for the rest of the EU (I am one of the people who thinks the entire EU collapses if we leave), but yeah, would be bad for us as well.

Fuck

The EU needs some major reform and maybe threatening to leave would do that But actually leaving just seems like an extreme approach to deal with your problems

[QUOTE=DogGunn;49774531]Surely there are only disadvantages for the UK if they leave the EU? They'll have to negotiate trade agreements for every European country.[/QUOTE] Why would we need to negotiate trade agreements with every European country? We'd just have to negotiate with the EU - that's kind of the point.

What about hassle free travel between European countries?

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;49780122]What about hassle free travel between European countries?[/QUOTE] Leave camp: The extra hassle of getting a visa is nothing because we get complete control of our borders again. Remain camp: Hassle-free travel is a good thing and EU immigration is a net gain because it boosts the UK economy.

I wonder how the numbers differ country to country in the UK. I suspect the majority of Scotland is in favour of staying. Would be interesting to see Wales, NI and Englands numbers

[QUOTE=maxspeed3006;49774414]You won't leave.[/QUOTE] You always seem very flustered about anything UK related.

My guess is undecided people will be more likely to remain in the EU, but it could really go either way with that statistic.

The newspapers here are either controlled by right wing or left wing nutjobs So most information is heavily bias one side or the other as usual the truth will get put on the backburners because they have papers to sell I wouldn't mind but as people are mostly morons who eat up whatever they read in The Sun as fact without question its very worrying

This could just be a stand out/anomalous poll but I pretty much called this a few months back that Leave.EU would take the lead Leave.EU is in an excellent position to push their agenda. As the sceptical side of the argument, most people don't expect them to give as much valid evidence because they're in the best position to make accusations that people will want to believe even if they don't stand up to scrutiny. They can easily write a narrative that they're on the side that is going to save the UK through action and get people invested in it. Any defence or reasoning to stay the "IN" campaign can come up with, that relies on statistics, can be ignored by zealous and overly passionate "OUT" supporters as driven by vested interest. IN can claim that we get lots of trade benefit from the EU that justify the cost - OUT can claim the trade benefit isn't significant, or even that we're operating in the agreement at a net loss, and any advantage will basically stay the same after new agreements. There isn't enough clear evidence I've seen to prove either viewpoint is true. OUT can add an outrange slant to it by saying that £55 million a day is wasted on membership. The IN campaign faces the prospect of being thought of as the scaremongerers for saying the economy will get worse when they deny OUT claims. In general the referendum favours OUT because the topic is so complicated that most people that don't have a degree in economics or other humanities are inclined to just accept the simpler point their tabloid tells them that the EU is a corrupt tyrannical german-belgian dictatorship that writes all our laws with a nanny state philosphy that will take away our birthday cake candles and make us collectively drown in imported terroists. For the record some of these people actually believe all of that, that's not even a huge exaggeration.

[QUOTE=Vasili;49780540]You always seem very flustered about anything UK related.[/QUOTE] Sometimes I feel like he does it to deliberately stir shit up.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49774576]Us leaving would be a disaster in general for both parties, I wouldn't like to see the longterm results.[/QUOTE] Do you read the guardian often? I think you listen to too much scarmongering, like the UK leaving is the end of the world or something. Alone, Sovereignty is far more important than your ability to casually move around parts of the EU without a visa, you are being selfish. If anything, the UK will become a huge financial powerhouse in europe, bigger than it currently in time and strengthening our position as one of the top countries in europe for finance, without the red tape of brussels we can accomplish this easily and also refocus on the commonwealth also to reach markets all too ignored since joining the eu.

Oh wow are you really calling Sobotnik a guardian reader lol

[QUOTE=Vasili;49780540]You always seem very flustered about anything UK related.[/QUOTE] How so?

[QUOTE=Britain;49774516]Not that it matters. David Cameron is a supporter of the EU and will obviously only set a referendum date when he thinks most people will vote to stay in.[/QUOTE] What does this even mean? Do you have weird seasons in Europe where one time of the year is more EU than the other?

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49781750]What does this even mean? Do you have weird seasons in Europe where one time of the year is more EU than the other?[/QUOTE] Referendum in June -> start of summer season -> EU holiday-makers visiting UK bringing more income -> better weather so people in a better mood. All sorts of reasons why having a referendum then is favourable to our miserable winters. That's my analysis of his comment anyway! Personally I'm for staying in the EU.

[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;49781796]Referendum in June -> start of summer season -> EU holiday-makers visiting UK bringing more income -> better weather so people in a better mood. All sorts of reasons why having a referendum then is favourable to our miserable winters. That's my analysis of his comment anyway! Personally I'm for staying in the EU.[/QUOTE] No, it's because summer will exacerbate the migrant crisis as conditions for boats are much better.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49781750]What does this even mean? Do you have weird seasons in Europe where one time of the year is more EU than the other?[/QUOTE] Ok long story short. There's this whole Syria thing going on, refugees escaping a warzone which is fine and then you also got a bunch of freeloaders from other places jumping on that bandwagon because they want to live in the west. Right now it's winter, the weather is not that great for crossing countries or sea's so the ammount of people escaping is 'low'. Once summer arrives the weather will be warmer and as such much more favorable for trying to get into and across europe, alot of people think this will be a doomsday scenario because europe will be flooded with refugees and won't be able to cope. If that was to happen, people would likely vote to leave the EU because who wants to stay on a sinking ship? So you hold a vote before that happens and it's not even taken into account.

[QUOTE=Mythman;49780146]Leave camp: The extra hassle of getting a visa is nothing because we get complete control of our borders again.[/QUOTE] But its not up to our border agency, getting a visa is up to the country you are visiting.. Unless you mean someone from the EU entering the UK

get out of the EU it is a death trap

[QUOTE=Lolkork;49779795]I don't think the EU is going to stay around for much longer, nationalism and fascism is growing quickly and those guys really hate the EU.[/QUOTE] And what do you think, whose fault is that?