• Bobby Montoya, 7-Year-Old Transgender Child, Turned Away From Girl Scouts, Later Accepted (VIDEO)
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[quote]Bobby Montoya often dresses like a girl, plays with girl's toys, and most recently, wants to become a Girl Scout. But when her mother, Felisha Archuleta, brought her to a local troop leader, the child's dreams were dashed. According to 9 News, the Girl Scouts worker said the child could not join, regardless of how the 7-year-old feels, because Bobby had "boy parts." "I said, 'Well, what's the big deal?' She said 'It doesn't matter how he looks, he has boy parts, he can't be in Girl Scouts. Girl Scouts don't allow that [and] I don't want to be in trouble by parents or my supervisor,'" Archuleta told 9 News. Bobby was heartbroken. According to Fox News, the Girl Scouts Of Colorado have since admitted a mistake was made. Apparently the worker who turned Montoya away was unfamiliar with the group's policies, and Bobby is now welcome to join the group. It's unclear as to whether or not she has decided to join in light of the reversal. Requests for transgender children to join the Girl Scouts have grown according to Fox News, and the group has been working to support them and their families. However, Bobby's struggles go beyond the Girl Scouts experience. In an interview with 9 News (which you can see below) Montoya says how difficult it can be, especially in school. Often Montoya feels bullied or gets teased because of the way she dresses and acts. Bobby doesn't want these actions to cause change, but admits being made fun of can hurt, and even her mother feels the pain. Bullying due to sexual orientation or gender identity has long been an issue, most recently in the wake of the suicide of 14-year-old Jamey Rodemeyer last month. While Rodemeyer's case is certainly different from Montoya's both situations have shed light on the struggles of LGBT youth. You can find out more information about the effects of bullying because of sexual orientation and gender identity here, from here, from Mental Health America, or from The Trevor Project. WATCH:[/quote] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/bobby-montoya-girl-scouts_n_1033308.html[/url]
I'll refrain from making a King of the Hill joke, and instead offer my best wishes for the kid. That having been said, I think 7 years is just too young to say what you think your sexuality is.
Your brain isn't even developed until 25, this is dumb and there's a high chance he'll regret it later Hell, if he wants to be a girl when he's an adult, I don't care, let him do what he wants, but until he's old enough to know who he is it's sort of a bad idea.
Why is he a transgender boy again? I seriously doubt a 7 year old boy could come to that decision alone. [editline]27th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=StormHammer;32984814]I'll refrain from making a King of the Hill joke[/QUOTE] That boy ain't right There, I took the shot for you. Heart?
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;32984815]Your brain isn't even developed until 25, this is dumb and there's a high chance he'll regret it later Hell, if he wants to be a girl when he's an adult, I don't care, let him do what he wants, but until he's old enough to know who he is it's sort of a bad idea.[/QUOTE] We understand what gender we are at a very young age [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Glorbo;32984833]Why is he a transgender boy again? I seriously doubt a 7 year old boy could come to that decision alone.[/QUOTE] when you were 7 did you know what gender you were? I betcha did ah can't wait for the rest of the ignorance about transgender to come in this thread I hope all you idiots really go all-out this time [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] all of you, think back to when you were seven (that's grade 2) I assume most of you were boys. Were you able to look at boys and think "those people are like me, whereas the girls are different" If the answer is yes, you understood your gender completely
What's the purpose of having Boy and Girl Scouts, if the opposite gender can join anyway? Might as well do away with them being separate and combine them into... Something Scouts.
[QUOTE=StormHammer;32984814]I'll refrain from making a King of the Hill joke, and instead offer my best wishes for the kid. That having been said, I think 7 years is just too young to say what you think your sexuality is.[/QUOTE] well then it's a good thing that sexuality isn't gender identity, isn't it?
I used to kiss girls in kindergarten, dont know why but I did, I'm a guy. And seriously, I didn't understand why it was one or the other. It's pretty hard to imagine that a boy of that age would know he would rather be a girl than a guy. An insanely mature and life changing decision I can't see a 7 year old making.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;32984833]Why is he a transgender boy again? I seriously doubt a 7 year old boy could come to that decision alone. [/QUOTE] why? a person knows the difference between boys and girls before they can even talk
Hello. My name is Bobby Montoya. You didn't let me into the Girl Scouts. Prepare to die.
transgender has nothing to do with sexuality, just stating that before more misinformed comments come along.
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32984971]I used to kiss girls in kindergarten, dont know why but I did, I'm a guy. And seriously, I didn't understand why it was one or the other. It's pretty hard to imagine that a boy of that age would know he would rather be a girl than a guy. An insanely mature and life changing decision I can't see a 7 year old making.[/QUOTE] aaaahhhh You can't "imagine" the scenario because you've never experienced anything remotely similar to it but obviously you're the expert heh
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;32984977]Hello. My name is Bobby Montoya. You didn't let me into the Girl Scouts. Prepare to die.[/QUOTE] I wish I could rate winner more than once
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;32984976]why? a person knows the difference between boys and girls before they can even talk[/QUOTE] NO YOU'RE WRONG IM A CONSERVATIVE AND I BELIEVE IN THE GENDER BINARY AND BOYS ARE BOYS AND GIRLS ARE GIRLS AND THAT'S THAT THIS CHIld needs to be REHABILItateD with JESUS
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32984995]aaaahhhh You can't "imagine" the scenario because you've never experienced anything remotely similar to it but obviously you're the expert heh[/QUOTE] You're right I've never had the urge to dress up in the opposite genders clothes. And yes I was raised in a strict christian home and I believe everyone has the right to do whatever they want with their gender/sexuality. In a way I was agreeing with you, don't be so angsty.
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985021]You're right I've never had the urge to dress up in the opposite genders clothes.[/QUOTE] There's more to it than that but you knew this and just felt the need to get one last shot in before you got run out of the thread by people smarter than you
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985035]There's more to it than that but you knew this and just felt the need to get one last shot in before you got run out of the thread by people smarter than you[/QUOTE] One last shot, what are you talking about, you're an odd fellow, very worked up too. You must enjoy arguing cause you don't seem like a very like-able person. I'm guessing the world isn't too nice to you otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive.
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985092]One last shot, what are you talking about, you're an odd fellow, very worked up too. You must enjoy arguing cause you don't seem like a very like-able person. I'm guessing the world isn't too nice to you otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive.[/QUOTE] Are you even serious
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985092]One last shot, what are you talking about, you're an odd fellow, very worked up too. You must enjoy arguing cause you don't seem like a very like-able person. I'm guessing the world isn't too nice to you otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive.[/QUOTE] Of course I'm worked up In the nearly 5 years I've posted here I've seen this exact debate about 50 times and in each one, people get fucking dumber [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;32985101]Are you even serious[/QUOTE] his post was actually like three quarters correct
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985105]Of course I'm worked up In the nearly 5 years I've posted here I've seen this exact debate about 50 times and in each one, people get fucking dumber[/QUOTE] Ah, everyone's views should be just like yours.
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985128]Ah, everyone's views should be just like yours.[/QUOTE] No but people always make ignorant comments about this issue, ie comments that are actually wrong.
[QUOTE=Dragoshi1;32984963]What's the purpose of having Boy and Girl Scouts, if the opposite gender can join anyway? Might as well do away with them being separate and combine them into... Something Scouts.[/QUOTE] do you know what the word transgender even means?
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985128]Ah, everyone's views should be just like yours.[/QUOTE] i'm all for tolerance of other opinions, but some people's opinions are wrong. and i believe the world would be a better place if said opinions were completely erased. tl;dr, i'm a huge idiot
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985128]Ah, everyone's views should be just like yours.[/QUOTE] But then Facepunch would be really boring
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985092]One last shot, what are you talking about, you're an odd fellow, very worked up too. You must enjoy arguing cause you don't seem like a very like-able person. I'm guessing the world isn't too nice to you otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive.[/QUOTE] tbh you're the one taking smug shots at Zeke then pointing all blame back at him when he reacts accordingly.
[QUOTE=pdp;32985155]i'm all for tolerance of other opinions, but some people's opinions are wrong. and i believe the world would be a better place if said opinions were completely erased. tl;dr, i'm a huge idiot[/QUOTE] This kids just mad because he made a thread about losing weight and got angry cause people yelled at him for posting a topic that everyone has posted 10 times already. L2 read the sticky.
[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985195]This kids just mad because he made a thread about losing weight and got angry cause people yelled at him for posting a topic that everyone has posted 10 times already. L2 read the sticky.[/QUOTE] Wow now you are being an idiot.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985105]Of course I'm worked up In the nearly 5 years I've posted here I've seen this exact debate about 50 times and in each one, people get fucking dumber [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] his post was actually like three quarters correct[/QUOTE] bawww people dont bow down to the expert of fucking everything and accept that im right theyre all wrong, what fucking morons. Seven years old is [i]NOT[/i] an appropriate time to declare a person's gender. Unless the seven-year-old is able to get a psychiatric diagnosis, the world should not have to bend over backwards to accommodate the desires of a seven-year-old child.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32984899]We understand what gender we are at a very young age [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] when you were 7 did you know what gender you were? I betcha did ah can't wait for the rest of the ignorance about transgender to come in this thread I hope all you idiots really go all-out this time [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] all of you, think back to when you were seven (that's grade 2) I assume most of you were boys. Were you able to look at boys and think "those people are like me, whereas the girls are different" If the answer is yes, you understood your gender completely[/QUOTE] Zeke, saying something that isn't retarded? Welp I did wake up in the wrong place.
[QUOTE=Dragoshi1;32984963]What's the purpose of having Boy and Girl Scouts, if the opposite gender can join anyway? Might as well do away with them being separate and combine them into... Something Scouts.[/QUOTE] Ignorance Scouts tbh this kid's gonna get treated like shit there anyways. I mean, I'm sure this is a step in the right direction but I don't see the kid being treated kindly by an organization that denies membership to Atheists.
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