• Woman miscarried after cops 'battered' her during 'false' arrest
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[quote]STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- Despite telling them she was pregnant, cops "battered" her, causing her to miscarry, during an incident at her home 15 months ago, a Mariners Harbor woman alleges in an explosive lawsuit. Officers "struck her in the stomach and threw her to the ground and stepped on her," on Nov. 2, 2014, alleges the suit recently filed by Emelda Fitzroy in Brooklyn federal court. Fitzroy's civil complaint does not specify why cops came to her home, although it notes she was arrested on charges of felony and misdemeanor assault, misdemeanor counts of resisting arrest and obstructing governmental administration, and lesser counts of harassment. All of those charges were dropped last week on Jan. 26, the complaint states.[/quote] [url=http://www.silive.com/northshore/index.ssf/2016/02/lawsuit_woman_miscarried_when.html]source[/url]
Are the single quotes around "battered" supposed to imply something or is that just how the author uses words
[QUOTE]explosive lawsuit.[/QUOTE] EXPLOSIVE lawsuit
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49685745]Are the single quotes around "battered" supposed to imply something or is that just how the author uses words[/QUOTE] That's the title of the actual article
[QUOTE=phygon;49685896]That's the title of the actual article[/QUOTE] Yeah I just don't know why the article name is like that
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49685745]Are the single quotes around "battered" supposed to imply something or is that just how the author uses words[/QUOTE] Because it's probably still alleged and nothing absolute has been confirmed
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49685745]Are the single quotes around "battered" supposed to imply something or is that just how the author uses words[/QUOTE] Quotation marks imply that it's being quoted I assume.
Absolutely disgusting if the allegations are true. I can't imagine what that poor woman must be going through. [editline]6th February 2016[/editline] [URL="http://nypost.com/2016/01/31/cops-roughed-up-woman-led-to-miscarriage-lawsuit/"]Here's video footage of the events taking place[/URL]. It's been 15 months since this occurred and the officers involved have still not been charged. Absolutely unacceptable.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49685745]Are the single quotes around "battered" supposed to imply something or is that just how the author uses words[/QUOTE] I believe they are there to imply that she's a liar and cops are perfect.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;49686371]I believe they are there to imply that she's a liar and cops are perfect.[/QUOTE] or maybe quotation marks are being used to quote something
Getting a bit out of control when people think all quotation marks are being used to imply sarcasm. In any case, this is really awful, serious punishment needs to be laid down and it's been way too long without it.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;49686091] [URL="http://nypost.com/2016/01/31/cops-roughed-up-woman-led-to-miscarriage-lawsuit/"]Here's video footage of the events taking place[/URL].[/QUOTE] This thread is blowing up on reddit, apparently the video on the NY Post article is a completely separate incident. So, as far as Fitzroy's case goes, there is no video evidence given to us, and everything is still an allegation (which is why the article uses quotation marks). Go nuts
Yea this probably didn't happen and she's looking for a payday. Completely common for people to allege anything against cops in a lawsuit hoping they just pay out instead of fighting the civil case.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;49687838]This thread is blowing up on reddit, apparently the video on the NY Post article is a completely separate incident. So, as far as Fitzroy's case goes, there is no video evidence given to us, and everything is still an allegation (which is why the article uses quotation marks). Go nuts[/QUOTE] Because the crack squad of private investigators over at the ol reddit have never dropped the ball before right.
Wow, I've never quite seen such persistent and indepth investigative work quite just like this gem. I take it this news site only procures the finest journalists. [quote] Prosecutors confirmed the charges were dropped, but declined further comment because the court file has been sealed. Fitzroy's lawyer, Regina L. Darby, did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment on the lawsuit. A city Law Department spokesman said the city would not comment on the suit "before all the facts are in." "We'll review the allegations," the spokesman said. An NYPD spokeswoman declined comment because the lawsuit is pending.[/quote] It is almost we're seeing a trend here.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;49688813]Because the crack squad of private investigators over at the ol reddit have never dropped the ball before right.[/QUOTE] Well, in that case then the woman isn't going to sue for shit. The video shows cops doing standard arrest procedures. She was in cuffs and getting laid out on the hood on the car, and [I]she still tried running away.[/I] That's when the officer put her on the floor. Only thing out of the ordinary I saw in that video is the shove the officer gave, but then again she was committing an obstruction of justice. I don't understand why people think it's perfectly okay to run in while someone is getting arrested and go "HEY THAT'S MY FRIEND STOP THAT". You're interfering with the cop's job, what the hell do you expect to happen?
[QUOTE=Code3Response;49688607]Yea this probably didn't happen and she's looking for a payday. Completely common for people to allege anything against cops in a lawsuit hoping they just pay out instead of fighting the civil case.[/QUOTE] Or, you know, it did happen and maybe she has a legitimate lawsuit going here. Don't be so quick to give cops the benefit of the doubt. Even if you are one. Pretty bad when you so easily and readily dismiss this because "lol money". That is the exact mindset that leads to these issues not being resolved.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;49695512]Well, in that case then the woman isn't going to sue for shit. The video shows cops doing standard arrest procedures. She was in cuffs and getting laid out on the hood on the car, and [I]she still tried running away.[/I] That's when the officer put her on the floor. Only thing out of the ordinary I saw in that video is the shove the officer gave, but then again she was committing an obstruction of justice. I don't understand why people think it's perfectly okay to run in while someone is getting arrested and go "HEY THAT'S MY FRIEND STOP THAT". You're interfering with the cop's job, what the hell do you expect to happen?[/QUOTE] I don't understand why people think it's perfectly okay for cops to use that level of force against people, especially a fucking [I]pregnant[/I] woman. Better to have a minor obstruction than risk injuring/causing a miscarriage of an unborn child. Granted, there are plenty of dumbasses out there who's lives would be made a ton easier if they didn't stop obnoxiously obstructing police at every turn but it feels like US police tactics are always far more aggressive when it's unnecessary. Or then again, maybe it's because I'm from the UK where police don't have/feel the need to be as aggressive in their procedures to such an extent.
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;49696945]I don't understand why people think it's perfectly okay for cops to use that level of force against people, especially a fucking [I]pregnant[/I] woman. Better to have a minor obstruction than risk injuring/causing a miscarriage of an unborn child. Granted, there are plenty of dumbasses out there who's lives would be made a ton easier if they didn't stop obnoxiously obstructing police at every turn but it feels like US police tactics are always far more aggressive when it's unnecessary. Or then again, maybe it's because I'm from the UK where police don't have/feel the need to be as aggressive in their procedures to such an extent.[/QUOTE] The thing is cops have a huge amount of pressure on them thanks to the media and social networks making them always look like the bad guy. Sure it's probably deserved but a lot of people only seem to focus on the negative aspects of it; people feel fear and resentment towards cops, which in turn makes cops more paranoid and more aggressive when unnecessary because at the end of the day they'd rather save their life/career/whatever and do something wrong (excluding of course the shitty cops who just abuse their power for funziez)
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;49696945]I don't understand why people think it's perfectly okay for cops to use that level of force against people[/QUOTE] They have to. Doesn't matter if it looks like you're too skinny to fight or too overweight to run away, the unexpected can happen, and it happens quickly. This amount of force is standard procedure for police because people are known to do some crazy shit when confronted by cops. Cops are trained, and they learn very quickly, to [I]never underestimate the person you are pursuing.[/I] In this situation, they will especially get as many cops as they can to pin someone down to ensure that they don't move when there's a crowd of people filming, yelling, and [I]trying to intervene with the arrest.[/I] Police are trained to de-escalate the situation. It's two cops versus a big crowd, if that person in cuffs slips away into their group of friends, the situation becomes a lot more dangerous. [quote]especially a fucking [I]pregnant[/I] woman.[/quote] [t]http://i.imgur.com/zmlzQbi.png[/t] Does this woman look pregnant to you? She's overweight. I highly doubt anyone would look at her and say right off the bat that she's pregnant. Cops don't know that, there isn't a blatant reason to assume she is. Hell, I've seen bigger bellies on women that weren't pregnant. Remember that it is very much the responsibility of the mother to take care of her child, if she makes a bad decision with the child in her womb, she isn't magically exempted from taking responsibility of the following consequences. If she didn't resist arrest, she wouldn't have been put on the floor. [quote]Better to have a minor obstruction than risk injuring/causing a miscarriage of an unborn child.[/quote] It's better to, I don't know, maybe say "I'm pregnant, please watch my stomach!" instead of trying to run away from a cop who has you in custody. Or for her friend to maybe get a few feet closer to the officer and yell "She's pregnant! Be careful!" instead of running in to a police officer trying to subdue someone who was just trying to run away from being arrested. What the fuck do you expect to accomplish by doing that? I'm sorry, but these people made some really stupid decisions. [quote]Granted, there are plenty of dumbasses out there who's lives would be made a ton easier if they didn't stop obnoxiously obstructing police at every turn but it feels like US police tactics are always far more aggressive when it's unnecessary.[/quote] It might feel like that [I]for you.[/I] The police aren't going to risk their lives unnecessarily. These cases blow up on the news all the time, people get angry, and that's it. It doesn't go anywhere. The judge probably sighs every time the charges against the police officer are dropped because they have to break the heart of some entitled fuckwit who can't wrap their minds around why they have to obey the police. [quote]Or then again, maybe it's because I'm from the UK where police don't have/feel the need to be as aggressive in their procedures to such an extent.[/quote] I would imagine, because in the U.S. anyone can have a gun on them. [I]Anyone.[/I] Anyone walking on the street, anyone you're looking for in the building, anyone in the car that you've just pulled over. I'd say they're much more likely to take extra precaution for their own safety knowing this. There are episodes of COPS which show people booking it and getting pretty damn far with two police a few feet away from them, among some other crazy shit - That's why police use that amount of force in taking someone down. What you won't see are videos on liveleak where police officers get shot walking right up to someone they just pulled over. It's a dangerous fucking job. However many cops you think are "evil psychopath bullies" that don't have any regard for others, the vast majority of police are doing their job because they legitimately want to protect others and make their community safer. It can be a very exciting and rewarding job, but there are many risks to it. Put yourself in the boots of the police officer before you start crying about injustice.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;49702606] [img]http://i.imgur.com/zmlzQbi.png[/img] Does this woman look pregnant to you?[/QUOTE] Yes, very.
Well cops don't resist for you. It's something you do voluntarily.
[QUOTE=J!NX;49685845]EXPLOSIVE lawsuit[/QUOTE] The news sound so much more interesting if you just simply decide to take the metaphors literally.
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