Oregon State Legislature passes a bill that offers free community college - Polidicks

[QUOTE]he Oregon state legislature passed a bill last week with bipartisan support that ensures that if eligible students apply for federal grants for community college, the states will cover the remainder of their tuition. To qualify, students must have applied for the state and federal aid grants available to them, lived in Oregon for at least one year, and maintained a grade point average of at least 2.5. They also must enroll in community college within six months of completing their high school degree or its equivalent. The program could have wide-reaching effects in Oregon, since there are roughly 70,000 Oregonians between the ages of 18 and 24 who have a high school education but no opportunity for post-secondary schooling, according to testimony from state Senator Mark Hass. [/QUOTE] [url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/08/pf/college/oregon-free-community-college/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom[/url] Hopefully this becomes a trend throughout the US

"A lifetime of food stamps is much more expensive than the annual community college tuition of $3,000," Hass told lawmakers on May 28."

[QUOTE=Kommodore;48151391]"A lifetime of food stamps is much more expensive than the annual community college tuition of $3,000," Hass told lawmakers on May 28."[/QUOTE] It's the truth as far as anyone is concerned. If you don't have some sort of degree these days, you'll be fighting an uphill battle from Day 1.

I'm just about to move there :)

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;48151398]It's the truth as far as anyone is concerned. If you don't have some sort of degree these days, you'll be fighting an uphill battle from Day 1.[/QUOTE] imo this is handling it the wrong way. We should try to get back to an economy where you don't need a degree to make a living wage.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;48151678]imo this is handling it the wrong way. We should try to get back to an economy where you don't need a degree to make a living wage.[/QUOTE] okay let's do it, first up convince the entire american public that a burger flipper doesn't deserve poverty wages

That should be nation-wide

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48151986]okay let's do it, first up convince the entire american public that a burger flipper doesn't deserve poverty wages[/QUOTE] While you're at it, convince them that janitorial work isn't something only "unpeople" with no documentation should do.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;48151678]imo this is handling it the wrong way. We should try to get back to an economy where you don't need a degree to make a living wage.[/QUOTE] I wish highschool was geared toward helping students plan what they want to do in college rather than continuing general education and maybe taking some college credit courses. Depending on how well the school is funded, you might not even get the chance to go to said courses.

As someone who lives in Oregon. Yes. Yes please.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;48151678]imo this is handling it the wrong way. We should try to get back to an economy where you don't need a degree to make a living wage.[/QUOTE] Lets not forget the part where they want only people with experience, who've never worked in their lives. Yes you read it right.

[QUOTE=kweh;48153205]Lets not forget the part where they want only people with experience, who've never worked in their lives. Yes you read it right.[/QUOTE] From what I've heard, you're supposed to apply anyways and it's a thing to weed out people who aren't totally confident in their skills. Like, they want people who see that and think, "I can still do this despite it". At least that's what I've heard. I haven't had a job yet.

This is a good start, but what about people who don't meet the qualifications? Will someone be denied if they tried attending college more than 6 months after graduating high school? That seems a little silly to me.

[QUOTE=Sanjuaro;48153232]This is a good start, but what about people who don't meet the qualifications? Will someone be denied if they tried attending college more than 6 months after graduating high school? That seems a little silly to me.[/QUOTE] I assume it's to prevent too many people from getting in on the program. If you open it to everyone, the entire state would suddenly be going back to college, and that would be catastrophic. Having that stipulation reduces the logistical and fiscal insanity that would result from opening this deal up to everyone. Sucks for people 7 months out though.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;48153223]From what I've heard, you're supposed to apply anyways and it's a thing to weed out people who aren't totally confident in their skills. Like, they want people who see that and think, "I can still do this despite it". At least that's what I've heard. I haven't had a job yet.[/QUOTE] No, they actually want someone with experience but no one will hire you without experience so you're stuck in a loop unless you're an awesome interview.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;48151678]imo this is handling it the wrong way. We should try to get back to an economy where you don't need a degree to make a living wage.[/QUOTE] Funny joke. So what are we going to do? Somehow magically reverse more than a century's worth of shifting towards service industries, where the skills needed are provided through higher degrees? Somehow revert back to a developing economy like in China or India where most jobs don't require degrees because people work in the fields or in factories but, ironically for you, mean many people don't make a living wage? You don't even need a higher degree to have a living wage. Jobs at places like supermarkets and fast food outlets aren't intended to provide a living wage for an entire family. Minimum wage work in the U.S. is only a small proportion of total employment, but it's blown out to appear bigger than it is because people are very vocal about it.

Good thing I just finished a degree in Oregon.

[QUOTE=Velocet;48153332]No, they actually want someone with experience but no one will hire you without experience so you're stuck in a loop unless you're an awesome interview.[/QUOTE] I've gotten jobs that required experience when I didn't have any.

Another reason why I love my state. Interested to see how this turns out, it's about time

[QUOTE=Sanjuaro;48153232]This is a good start, but what about people who don't meet the qualifications? Will someone be denied if they tried attending college more than 6 months after graduating high school? That seems a little silly to me.[/QUOTE] If it does well they'll most likely expand it.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;48151678]imo this is handling it the wrong way. We should try to get back to an economy where you don't need a degree to make a living wage.[/QUOTE] People learn things in college that they wouldn't know without having earned their degree. An educated society is a more productive society.