Video of kid accidentally shooting self will be shown at trial. - Polidicks

:siren:[highlight][url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1046132-Video-of-kid-accidentally-shooting-self-will-be-shown-at-trial.?p=27401092&viewfull=1#post27401092]UPDATE! Verdict is about to be delivered![/url][/highlight]:siren: :siren:[highlight][url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1046132-Video-of-kid-accidentally-shooting-self-will-be-shown-at-trial.?p=27419027&viewfull=1#post27419027]UPDATE! Jury finds Not Guilty![/url][/highlight]:siren: Some local news for ya [quote] SPRINGFIELD, Mass. (WWLP) - As the jury is being selected in the involuntary manslaughter trial of former Pelham Police Chief Edward Fleury, a Hampden Superior Court Judge has ruled that the jury will be allowed to see gun show video taken before eight year-old Christopher Bizilj accidentally shot himself to death. Judge Peter C. Velis decided Tuesday that video taken at the show will be allowed to be shown to jurors up to the point when Bizilj accidentally shot himself in the head with an Uzi submachine gun. He ruled that jurors would only be allowed to hear certain pieces of audio following the shooting. There is no video following the shooting, as the camera was dropped. Velis said that there would be a process to decide which elements of post-shooting audio would be redacted, and that he would review the audio. Velis also ruled that the jury pool would not be allowed to see any video or hear any audio, which was an issue that was brought up in court on Monday. Fleury owned the company that sponsored the show, which was held on October 26, 2008 at the Westfield Sportsmen’s Club. He announced his resignation as Pelham’s police chief in January of 2009. [/quote] Source: [url]http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/hampden/Video-can-be-shown-at-Uzi-death-trial[/url] Original Story: [url]http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/wwlp_local_daannounceschargesinuzishootingdeath_200812041041[/url] As far as I know, the death was due to the recoil making the gun pull up and hit him in the head. The fact that a gun show is charged for a death of an 8 year old is in my opinion like a kid committing suicide and then blaming the company that made the gun. Who gives and 8 year old an uzi?

The recoil killed him? Fucking whaaat.

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[QUOTE=RayDark;27235200]The recoil killed him? Fucking whaaat.[/QUOTE] I think what he meant was that the recoil ended up making the kid aim at his head while firing.

[QUOTE=Murkat;27235221]I think what he meant was that the recoil ended up making the kid aim at his head while firing.[/QUOTE] Ooohh. I thought the gun flew backwards and cracked his skull open or something. Woah check out these agrees, it's like I opened my welfare check early or something.

How could you accidently shoot yourself in the head? His father or the guy who owned the UZI even allowed him to shoot the gun. I mean what the hell dude?

[QUOTE=RayDark;27235232]Ooohh. I thought the gun flew backwards and cracked his skull open or something.[/QUOTE] Nope, he shot himself in the head. [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Playguy;27235248]How could you accidently shoot yourself in the head? His father even allowed him to shoot the gun. I mean what the hell dude?[/QUOTE] Recoil.

[QUOTE=bugfix;27235251]Recoil.[/QUOTE] I wonder why he didn't take his finger off the trigger when it recoiled. Seems weird.

[QUOTE=supersnail11;27235175]Some local news for ya Original Story: [url]http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/wwlp_local_daannounceschargesinuzishootingdeath_200812041041[/url] As far as I know, the death was due to the recoil making the gun pull up and hit him in the head. The fact that a gun show is charged for a death of an 8 year old is in my opinion like a kid committing suicide and then blaming the company that made the gun. Who gives and 8 year old an uzi?[/QUOTE] Who let the kid use the gun? The folks at the gun show. That's criminal negligence right there. [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Playguy;27235272]I wonder why he didn't take his finger off the trigger when it recoiled. Seems weird.[/QUOTE] maybe because he was 8 and didn't know better

[QUOTE=supersnail11;27235175]Who gives an 8 year old an uzi?[/QUOTE] Rednex.

It's a little morbid.

[QUOTE=Playguy;27235272]I wonder why he didn't take his finger off the trigger when it recoiled. Seems weird.[/QUOTE] He probably squeezed it really hard and didn't realize it would go back, so when it did, he held tight instead of releasing.

[QUOTE=RayDark;27235365]He probably squeezed it really hard and didn't realize it would go back, so when it did, he held tight instead of releasing.[/QUOTE] Plus, to an 8-year-old kid, a gun is kinda heavy. It's natural to hold on tight when you're holding something heavy, especially when you lose control of it.

[QUOTE=Prismatex;27235276][b]Who let the kid use the gun?[/b] The folks at the gun show. That's criminal negligence right there. [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] maybe because he was 8 and didn't know better[/QUOTE] The Parents.

[QUOTE=supersnail11;27235378]The Parents.[/QUOTE] Right, but the people who provided the gun to the kid were the demonstrators at the show.

[QUOTE=Prismatex;27235414]Right, but the people who provided the gun to the kid were the demonstrators at the show.[/QUOTE] Well, yes, but it's the parents responsibility to keep their kids safe, and if they let them operate an uzi at 8, it's the parents fault. The gun show was just supplying the gun.

Teach gun safety first, give the gun then.

[QUOTE=ForestRaptor;27235582]Teach gun safety first, give the gun then.[/QUOTE] Or remove guns in most instances, and the problem is solved. Guns are normally only needed for protection from guns.

[QUOTE=ForestRaptor;27235582]Teach gun safety first, give the gun then.[/QUOTE] That doesn't prevent him from a school massacre, nor a suicide.

No, be quiet DogGun

[quote=ItWasNiceToKnow;27235623]That doesn't prevent him from a school massacre, nor a suicide. [/quote] Because a gun accident the victim would have done a massacre

[QUOTE=ItWasNiceToKnow;27235623]That doesn't prevent him from a school massacre, nor a suicide.[/QUOTE] or accidentally shooting yourself in the head

[QUOTE=joeboe242;27235646]No, be quiet DogGun[/QUOTE] Nah. Look what a disaster the gun culture in the US is.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;27235705]Nah. Look what a disaster the gun culture in the US is.[/QUOTE] There is an easy fix. Don't give stupid people guns!

[QUOTE=joeboe242;27235720]There is an easy fix. Don't give stupid people guns![/QUOTE] But then how are the stupid people going to protect themslves from "smart" people with guns?

I think the only person at fault here is the kid

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;27235814]I think the only person at fault here is the kid[/QUOTE] Complete opposite. When you're doing something new, you probably don't know how to do it. He should've been informed and taught how to shoot it. Clearly it hasn't happened, and this has resulted.

[QUOTE=different users]or accidentally shooting yourself in the head/because a gun accident the kid would have done a school massacre.[/QUOTE] Yes, because that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm saying, that whatever he knows how to perfectly handle an UZI and shoot h34d$h0tz at übah 1337 distances, he is 8 and should not fucking have a gun. [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;27235814]I think the only person at fault here is the kid[/QUOTE] No, the parents are the ones who are at fault. [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=joeboe242;27235720]There is an easy fix. Don't give stupid people guns![/QUOTE] Nope.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;27235814]I think the only person at fault here is the kid[/QUOTE] I think we've all had that lovely experience your first time driving where you don't really have a feel for the pedals yet and end up pumping the gas when you meant to brake, or vice versa. Difference being with parents or an instructor, somebody can stop the car for you immediately if you're fucking up. At a minimum, somebody else should have had their hands on the gun at all times.

I don't know how any of you could possibly say this was the kids fault, the child obviously had never handled a gun of this calibre before and I am unsure if he ever handled a gun before the people you want to blame is the gun show for letting him use the gun and the parents for letting him use the gun as well. It is involuntary manslaughter for both parties. The child had no idea that the gun was going to recoil did he?