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[QUOTE]Eating processed meat can lead to bowel cancer in humans while red meat is a likely cause of the disease, World Health Organisation (WHO) experts said on Monday in findings that could sharpen debate over the merits of a meat-based diet.
The France-based International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the WHO, put processed meat such as hot dogs and ham in its group 1 list, which already includes tobacco, asbestos and diesel fumes, for which there is "sufficient evidence" of cancer links.
"For an individual, the risk of developing colorectal (bowel) cancer because of their consumption of processed meat remains small, but this risk increases with the amount of meat consumed," Dr Kurt Straif of the IARC said in a statement.
Red meat, under which the IARC includes beef, lamb and pork, was classified as a "probable" carcinogen in its group 2A list that also contains glyphosate, the active ingredient in many weedkillers.
The lower classification for red meat reflected "limited evidence" that it causes cancer. The IARC found links mainly with bowel cancer, as was the case for processed meat, but it also observed associations with pancreatic and prostate cancer.
The agency, whose findings on meat followed a meeting of health experts in France earlier this month, estimated each 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 18 per cent.
The IARC, which was assessing meat for the first time and reviewed some 800 studies, does not compare the level of cancer risk associated with products in a given category, so does not suggest eating meat is as dangerous as smoking, for example.
Health policy in some countries already calls for consumers to limit intake of red and processed meat, but the IARC said such advice to consumers was in certain cases focused on heart disease and obesity.
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[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/meat-cancer-world-health-organization-1.3288355[/url]
Interesting. I'm still going to eat meat.
People say everything causes cancer.
Oh well, meat is good
Why eat meat when you have delicious fish.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48985574]People say everything causes cancer.[/QUOTE]
Because cancer is a thing that can just happen regardless of how healthy you are, cancer is basically just a cell in your body fucking up and your immune system failing to pick it up.
The thing is there's things/habbits that make cancer more likely.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;48985585]Why eat meat when you have delicious fish.[/QUOTE]
Don't protect yourself from meat. Be a neutralist and eat it alongside the fish.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;48985585]Why eat meat when you have delicious fish.[/QUOTE]
Hmm. To choose between a minor risk of mercury toxicity and a minor risk of colorectal cancer....
What the hell is it about red meats that make them so unhealthy? Is it the fat content?
Joke's on them, my clogged arteries will kill me before bowel cancer even has a chance to do anything. I'll beat cancer that way, right? :v:
[QUOTE=Kegan;48985632]Joke's on them, my clogged arteries will kill me before bowel cancer even has a chance to do anything. I'll beat cancer that way, right? :v:[/QUOTE]
Beat cancer by depriving it of victory :v:
This just in: being alive causes cancer!
No statistics in the article either. What percent does it increase? 50%? 10%? 0.5%?
Basically this should be more taken more seriously than an everyday 'new study suggests x causes cancer' tabloid report, but you pretty much just need to think about processed meat the same way you think about [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_1_carcinogens]the other things that have been classed as carcinogens[/url] - things like tobacco, asbestos, diesel fumes, and alcohol.
Obviously if you drink large amounts of alcohol or smoke regularly you're probably going to end up with cancer, but the occasional drink isn't likely to make a major difference and neither is standing next to a smoker. Same with bacon, ham, and sausages. Alright on occasion but don't make them the centre of your diet, and try not to have them every day. Red meat has been classified as 'probably' the same but not enough evidence to be sure right now.
[quote]The lower classification for red meat reflected "limited evidence" that it causes cancer. [/quote]
Doesn't sound like much of a game changer to me. The article doesn't mention any details on how it causes cancer either, so whatever the actual cause is, it may not be strictly tied to processed meat.
That said, due to better understood links to heart disease and obesity, moderated intake of processed meat is probably gonna be a healthy decision for most people anyway.
[QUOTE=Smoot;48985677]This just in: being alive causes cancer!
No statistics in the article either. What percent does it increase? 50%? 10%? 0.5%?[/QUOTE]
[quote]The agency, whose findings on meat followed a meeting of health experts in France earlier this month, estimated each 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 18 per cent.[/quote]
[editline]26th October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;48985701]Doesn't sound like much of a game changer to me. The article doesn't mention any details on how it causes cancer either, so whatever the actual cause is, it may not be strictly tied to processed meat.
That said, due to better understood links to heart disease and obesity, moderated intake of processed meat is probably gonna be a healthy decision for most people anyway.[/QUOTE]
Limited evidence for red meat. Sufficient evidence for processed meat.
[QUOTE=Smoot;48985677]This just in: being alive causes cancer!
No statistics in the article either. What percent does it increase? 50%? 10%? 0.5%?[/QUOTE]
Breaking News: New study show that 100% of people that are alive will die.
So I can still eat steak pork chops chicken and fish right?
Ah fuck it, medicine, you better catch up while I drink, smoke and eat anything I want
Every cancer patient in the world has breathed air at some point
Air causes cancer
There was a time when it was believed that tomatoes caused cancer. Then it was proven to be bullshit. This is just going to be more of the same.
[QUOTE=smurfy;48985696]Basically this should be more taken more seriously than an everyday 'new study suggests x causes cancer' tabloid report, but you pretty much just need to think about processed meat the same way you think about [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_1_carcinogens]the other things that have been classed as carcinogens[/url] - things like tobacco, asbestos, diesel fumes, and alcohol.
Obviously if you drink large amounts of alcohol or smoke regularly you're probably going to end up with cancer, but the occasional drink isn't likely to make a major difference and neither is standing next to a smoker. Same with bacon, ham, and sausages. Alright on occasion but don't make them the centre of your diet, and try not to have them every day. Red meat has been classified as 'probably' the same but not enough evidence to be sure right now.[/QUOTE]
Obviously if you consume large quantities of asbestos, you'll get cancer. But it's okay to have a few asbestos fibres every so often.
[QUOTE=David29;48985757]There was a time when it was believed that tomatoes caused cancer. Then it was proven to be bullshit. This is just going to be more of the same.[/QUOTE]
This isn't a single study going "SAUSAGES CAUSES CANCER", this is the WHO going "we have reviewed a large body of evidence and we think that processed meats increase the risk of colorectal cancer by a small but statistically significant amount". The two are very different.
[QUOTE=isreal?;48985768]Obviously if you consume large quantities of asbestos, you'll get cancer. But it's okay to have a few asbestos fibres every so often.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm gonna have to start cutting down on my breakfast asbestos.
Cause I'm not eating less meat. What do you want me to replace meat in my meals with? A vegetable? I've already got a vegetable. I've got my meals down to two things: meat (steak, chicken, etc) and a softball sized turnip. Turnips are low calories but fill you up wuickly.
So now you want me to eat a fucking Brussels sprout instead of steak? Do I look like I'm from fucking Brussels to you who? This is more Democrat Al gore socialism, trying to tell us that all the nice things are bad for us because poor people can't afford nice things. That way, all the rich people have to eat the same shit that the fucking poor Europeans do, and that's socialism. First they did it with gas guzzlers, telling us about that global warming bullshit, now it's this "cancer". Sounds like a whole load of obummer fascist lies to me
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48985790]Cause I'm not eating less meat. What do you want me to replace meat in my meals with? A vegetable? I've already got a vegetable. I've got my meals down to two things: meat (steak, chicken, etc) and a softball sized turnip. Turnips are low calories but fill you up wuickly.
So now you want me to eat a fucking Brussels sprout instead of steak? Do I look like I'm from fucking Brussels to you who? This is more Democrat Al gore socialism, trying to tell us that all the nice things are bad for us because poor people can't afford nice things. That way, all the rich people have to eat the same shit that the fucking poor Europeans do, and that's socialism. First they did it with gas guzzlers, telling us about that global warming bullshit, now it's this "cancer". Sounds like a whole load of obummer fascist lies to me[/QUOTE]
So much denial.
Everything causes cancer at this point
In all seriousness, it makes sense, given how much extra shit is added to processed meat, it's not even quite meat at that point, so Smurfy's right in that case.
I'm pretty sure as long as your diet doesn't consist of hotdogs you shouldn't have a problem.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48985772]This isn't a single study going "SAUSAGES CAUSES CANCER", this is the WHO going "we have reviewed a large body of evidence and we think that processed meats increase the risk of colorectal cancer by a small but statistically significant amount". The two are very different.[/QUOTE]
But that was the same sort of this that was said about tomatoes. No one was going around shouting "TOMATOES CAUSE CANCER!".
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