I don't understand how if these idiots are going to take the anti gun position why can't they do minimal amounts of research? So they at least have a minuscule amount of knowledge on the subject. I guess that involves them not being idiots though.
[QUOTE=Aman;43650713]I don't understand how if these idiots are going to take the anti gun position why can't they do minimal amounts of research? So they at least have a minuscule amount of knowledge on the subject. I guess that involves them not being idiots though.[/QUOTE]
They just have an irrational fear or hatred of guns, so as far as they're concerned no one can have them.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U[/media]
[editline]23rd January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;43650697]because this proves something[/QUOTE]
It proves that some of the prominent anti-gun advocates don't have the damndest what they're banning
That's why shit like "assault weapons" are getting banned, even though they're just polymer (or sometimes just black) versions of "hunting rifles", demonized for their baby slaying ~PISTOL GRIP~ (shock awe)
CLIP :argh:
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;43650884]They just have an irrational fear or hatred of guns, so as far as they're concerned no one can have them.[/QUOTE]
He does have a point on "ghost guns". If criminals are smart they can build a AR with no background checks or dealers involved. He saying "ghost" guns as no one knows that this weapon is built.
Buy a 80% lower from online, punch/drill a few holes, order parts kits and and a upper and you have a functioning rifle.
But yeah this guy is an idiot and hes being groomed for head of CA senate.
I think it should be a law that people who want to want to change law should know what the hell they are changing.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43651197]I think it should be a law that people who want to want to change law should know what the hell they are changing.[/QUOTE]
But that'll never happen because then no laws would ever get passed, ever.
i'm sorry, but lmao at the comments
[QUOTE]We can't vote these people out. Nothing is going to stop the gun grabbers until they have succeeded in removing every fire arm and our rights from each and every one of us. The time to fight is now. The time for the blood shed of Patriots and Tyrants is now. The time to take back our country is now. It is very clear that the enemy lives within the boundaries of and leads our nation. We must do this or else the country will fall along with our rights. I'm patiently waiting for a sign. For a leader to emerge. Then I'm all in. I'm ready to give my life for this country, for our children, for our future.
Where is that person? Where is the one that will unite us? I know you are out there listening, watching and waiting. I know when that time comes I will be there. I know I will probably die and never be remembered for who I was. Maybe an unmarked grave. Or who knows. I do know who I am. I do know that I am ready fight. I do know that time is upon us.
God help us all.[/QUOTE]
m-m-muh guns!!!
[QUOTE]Who's behind gun controls? "We have exterminated the property owners in Russia and are going to do the same thing in Europe and America." (The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit) I Pet Goat II Unwound (FINAL Analysis) There's a lot more than you thought! Must See! (MORE 200+ lines)
Number One rule of War:Know your enemy!
"Who / what is the enemy of Christians/gentiles, decent Jews and ALL of America?" (From one w/Polish Jew family, who, like most everyday Jews, know ZERO. However, many of whom are are still leveraged as "sayanim", of sorts, from the "Poor poor Jews" programming we all get and their apparent tribesman falsely marking a target with 'antisemite' or racist!)
Complete Failure:Debunking Anti-Semitism, Oey, veh; they're schtuping babies and worse!
Summary: Below are the references that provide strong evidence of a long term conspiracy by elite international Jews and their local Satanist Masons to overthrow their host governments and HARVEST the local Christians starting in the 8th century coming forward to the English, French, Ottoman "Young Turks" and Russian "revolutions". These were, in reality, treasonous Masonic KOSHER COUPs resulting in the genocide of millions and millions of CHRISTIANS! Strong evidence presents that “9/11” and 7/7 are continuations of this business model. In these previous coups we're told were 'revolutions countless gentiles were systematically harvested, robbed, raped and murdered by these ruthless killers that control and form a significant segment of what are blood "Jews".
1."THE JEW AS ALLY OF THE MUSLIM: Medieval Roots of Antisemitism"; Cutler
Jewish TREASON in the 8th century was how Muslims got a foothold in Spanish Europe after conquering the areas held by the original Christians, the Eastern Orthodox, and converting the survivors to Islam. Similar genocide at the hand of Jews against Christians can be traced forward to the French "Revolution", 20th century Holocaust by the so-called Young Turks “Revolution” in 1908 against Armenian and Greek orthodox Christians, then of course the Russian Christian holocaust where genocide was committed by Jews against some say as many as 100 million Christians. Were Muslims always controlled by Satanist Jews in a manner similar to the Vatican and other major brands of Christianity? Ataturk the “Muslim” leader was actually a Masonic Donmeh crypto Jew. This genocide seems to be part of a larger pattern of genocide against Christians as another was soon to be launched in Russia when Jewish “Communism”, aka Babylonian Talmudism, was to be installed.
2. "Slaughterhouse of Osiris" "Under the Sign of the Scorpion" Available in a Pdf file upon which the movie was based.
Jewish 'communism': Marx was a Mason and Stalin, born “Jewison”, crypto Jew & Rothschild employee; imported “Yiddish speaking terrorists to execute the “Red Terror” to justify police state in a remarkably similar manner as we're seeing in America today. 9/11 was not even the first staged attack and was likely a Mossad project from London about which their key executive branch agents were aware. See “Dancing Israelis” and other volumes of circumstantial evidence pointing to Israel, but on behalf of London UGLE Masons; ditto on the English equivalent attack called “7/7”; note they were both consistent with the English Satanists usage of numerology! `Jewish “communism” was far worse than our kosher educations taught and included ruthless and deliberate famines of Kulacks, torture and literal cannibal-like behaviors by Jews quite consistent with some of the current testimonies being denied from children of generational Jewish Satanists. (David Shurter, et. al. SRA victims! ) Talmudism, and even Torah seem to provide for the pedophilia problem intrinsic to many Jewish communities; in Russia, they confiscated the “good looking children” as “threats to the revolution”. Horrors of the “Red Terror” included unleashing violent criminals upon the community, stolen food as the tool of genocide against the fiercely independent Kulak farmers, door to door robbery with lists from those Masons that had internal positions of trust. This was modeled closely after La Terreur of the French “revolution”, which would be more accurately called a Masonic coups by internal Jews where countless millions of Christians were robbed and murdered.
3. Synagogues were not destroyed by 'Godless Communists'; it was a Jew against Christian SLAUGHTER as the latter were relieved of thei...[/QUOTE]
I BET THE JEWS DID THIS
[QUOTE]Yep guns kill people, they walk around and kill all by themselves!! Idiots. Join NRA people! Second Amendment. I live in Ca. and cannot fathom the crap that we have to deal with. Our elected officials! •[/QUOTE]
~second amendment~ murica nra hero
[QUOTE]What I can't comprehend is that people that are for "Gun Control" want to ban all guns however wouldn't it take guns to enforce?•[/QUOTE]
because you know gun control totally means banning all your guns
the man is so uninformed it almost makes me want to believe that he got stage fright and fucked up
[QUOTE=counterpo0;43651174]He does have a point on "ghost guns". If criminals are smart they can build a AR with no background checks or dealers involved. He saying "ghost" guns as no one knows that this weapon is built.
Buy a 80% lower from online, punch/drill a few holes, order parts kits and and a upper and you have a functioning rifle.
But yeah this guy is an idiot and hes being groomed for head of CA senate.[/QUOTE]
Can't legally buy a lower unless you go through a dealer, if you order online i mean. Unless you drive to the guy's house and pick it up. But i can see people's reasoning. You can swap out the upper and make any AR into an entirely different rifle, so ballistic testing goes out the window. Put a .300BLK upper on there, kill someone, take it off and replace with the factory upper, takes 30 seconds and a pen to push the pins out.
The main reason I'm hating on this guy right now is because he recently introduced a bill that will make virtually every airsoft gun currently in circulation in California illegal to own.
SB-199 is fuckin' lame, and born out of ignorance about my hobby and the typical feel good gun laws this state is famous for.
[QUOTE=Hinterlight;43651322]The main reason I'm hating on this guy right now is because he recently [B]introduced a bill that will make virtually every airsoft gun currently in circulation in California illegal to own.[/B]
SB-199 is fuckin' lame, and born out of ignorance about my hobby and the typical feel good gun laws this state is famous for.[/QUOTE]
you're shittin me
share a link with me my man
[QUOTE=Hole;43651346]you're shittin me
share a link with me my man[/QUOTE]
The bill itself...
[url]http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB199[/url]
More info on the bill...
[url]http://www.popularairsoft.com/californias-state-senator-de-le%C3%B3n-files-sb-199-expected[/url]
Basically, every airsoft gun owned or sold in California will have to be spraypainted a bright color to make it easily distinguishable from a real firearm. There will be no grandfathering.
[QUOTE=counterpo0;43651174]He does have a point on "ghost guns". If criminals are smart they can build a AR with no background checks or dealers involved. He saying "ghost" guns as no one knows that this weapon is built.
Buy a 80% lower from online, punch/drill a few holes, order parts kits and and a upper and you have a functioning rifle.
But yeah this guy is an idiot and hes being groomed for head of CA senate.[/QUOTE]
If he went into detail instead of just saying "Ghost Gun" than people wouldn't shit talk his reasoning for Ghost Guns, there were some pictures of saying like "where can I get a ghost gun from cod ghosts!?"
30 magazine clip.
I'm crying irl right now.
I'm pretty sure he said Gauss gun, not ghost gun. I'm not gun savvy enough to be able to tell if that's an actual Gauss gun or not though so I'll just stop here.
[QUOTE=Higginz511;43651499]I'm pretty sure he said Gauss gun, not ghost gun. I'm not gun savvy enough to be able to tell if that's an actual Gauss gun or not though so I'll just stop here.[/QUOTE]
Gauss gun's use magnets to accelerate projectiles, and are typically pretty large.
So no, he said ghost gun.
[QUOTE=Rastadogg;43651520]Gauss gun's use magnets to accelerate projectiles, and are typically pretty large.
So no, he said ghost gun.[/QUOTE]
With all due respect, considering the amount of other shit he got wrong its entirely plausible that he fucked that up too.
[QUOTE=zombini;43651307]Can't legally buy a lower unless you go through a dealer, if you order online i mean. Unless you drive to the guy's house and pick it up. But i can see people's reasoning. You can swap out the upper and make any AR into an entirely different rifle, so ballistic testing goes out the window. Put a .300BLK upper on there, kill someone, take it off and replace with the factory upper, takes 30 seconds and a pen to push the pins out.[/QUOTE]
No, i'm talking about how i can buy a 80% completed lower online shipped to my house, then buy a jig and complete it myself. If the lower was 100% completed then yes, it would have to go through a FFL, but since its 80% there is no law regarding this.
ATF does not view 80% lowers as a firearm since "special" tools and "skills" are required.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;43651296]
because you know gun control totally means banning all your guns[/QUOTE]
As a CA native i do not trust these lawmakers, they are so stupid at when it comes to banning guns that people find loopholes around them. They banned Colt Ar15's, what did colt do? Starting making M4 Carbines. Literally same rifle just changed what letters are stamped on it. Ban rifles with detachable mags? Companies now sell "bullet buttons".
These tards don't even know what they are banning. They also wanted "thumb print ID weapons" like from Skyfall. That tech isn't even near completion let alone going to be available to the public soon.
If they can't even take the time to know what they are doing, then they should not be in office.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;43651296]because you know gun control totally means banning all your guns[/QUOTE]
It does in the US more often than not, especially in California. And if they can't manage to outright ban one kind or even a specific model of gun, they try to put so high a tax on it that no one but the super rich can afford them or the ammunition.
So forgive us if we don't trust politicians when it comes to guns, we've been burned many many many times by them, and we very rarely get those laws reversed outside a sunset clause, especially on a federal level, which is where a fair bit of hate toward the Fed comes from.
I don't enjoy these videos as much as I'd like (though "thirty caliber bullet clip magazines" is solid gold) because they are usually used as springboards against any type of gun control.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43651197]I think it should be a law that people who want to want to change law should know what the hell they are changing.[/QUOTE]
Democrats can't pass gun control
Republicans can't pass most of their social or economic policies
I'd take that, where do I sign?
[QUOTE=katbug;43650979]
It proves that some of the prominent anti-gun advocates don't have the damndest what they're banning
[/QUOTE]
"Wow, look at these people, they don't know what guns are or how they work, gun control debate DONE"
That's not how it works.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;43651660]
So forgive us if we don't trust politicians when it comes to guns, we've been burned many many many times by them, and we very rarely get those laws reversed outside a sunset clause, especially on a federal level, which is where a fair bit of hate toward the Fed comes from.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what constitutes a "fair bit" but you have to be in some kind of bubble to think that the distrust in the federal government has anything to do with the fact that people can't go out and buy automatic assault rifles. People have more important shit to worry about, like food.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;43651923]
"Wow, look at these people, they don't know what guns are or how they work, gun control debate DONE"
That's not how it works.
[/QUOTE]
I didn't fucking say that was how it worked.
[quote][b]SOME[/b][/quote]
Our current attack on the gun problem is almost entirely ineffectual because of absolute dumb asses taking the foreground with these issues, who propagate a feel-good attitude with what should be banned (instead of anything based in any form of research whatsoever), and playing on the emotions of voters.
Unless you think these people are actually doing the right thing, in which case, it would be nice if you explained to me exactly how banning "assault weapons" will do a damn thing.
[QUOTE=katbug;43651948]
Our current attack on the gun problem is almost entirely ineffectual because of absolute dumb asses taking the foreground with these issues[/QUOTE]
This is what I'm talking about though. Absolutely no one outside of California should care about this de Leon guy yet because he said something extremely silly he is suddenly at the forefront of America's gun problem. It's an easy target for a difficult, complex issue. You even posted that ancient barrel shroud one to further shore up your point that "some" gun-control advocates don't know what they are talking about.
Don't get me wrong, the guy in OP's video has absolutely no business legislating anything dealing with firearms unless he maybe hires a crack team of advisers, but to to say that our "current attack on the gun problem is almost entirely ineffectual" because of a legislator in California is absurd. You are being purposefully disingenuous and it's easy to see through. It's the same kind of concern troll posts you see in feminism threads where a single radical feminist is bringing down the entire idea of social equality because she said some dumb shit at a rally.
[editline]24th January 2014[/editline]
Also it's going off topic, but pro-gun advocates equally propagate a fell-good attitude, play to emotions, and pass legislation without doing research. It's a politician thing, not a "grr statist gungrabbers" thing.
Is that guy wearing a hair piece?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;43652064]This is what I'm talking about though. Absolutely no one outside of California should care about this de Leon guy yet because he said something extremely silly he is suddenly at the forefront of America's gun problem. It's an easy target for a difficult, complex issue. You even posted that ancient barrel shroud one to further shore up your point that "some" gun-control advocates don't know what they are talking about.
Don't get me wrong, the guy in OP's video has absolutely no business legislating anything dealing with firearms unless he maybe hires a crack team of advisers, but to to say that our "current attack on the gun problem is almost entirely ineffectual" because of a legislator in California is absurd. You are being purposefully disingenuous and it's easy to see through. It's the same kind of concern troll posts you see in feminism threads where a single radical feminist is bringing down the entire idea of social equality because she said some dumb shit at a rally.
[editline]24th January 2014[/editline]
Also it's going off topic, but pro-gun advocates equally propagate a fell-good attitude, play to emotions, and pass legislation without doing research. It's a politician thing, not a "grr statist gungrabbers" thing.[/QUOTE]
Stupid people get massive coverage, that's just how it happens
But I've seen people here (I don't recall you specifically ever doing this) quoting some of the stupid shit that NRA members say, like "let's arm every teacher" and use these stupid people to basically shut down the pro-gun side of the argument.
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