Dick Cheney to Fox News: "The CIA Report is full of crap, Bush knew everything" - Polidicks

[QUOTE=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30427211]Former US President George W Bush was "fully informed" about CIA interrogation techniques condemned in a Senate report, his vice-president says. Speaking to Fox News, Dick Cheney said Mr Bush "knew everything he needed to know" about the programme, and the report was "full of crap". The CIA has defended its use of methods such as waterboarding on terror suspects after the 9/11 attacks. The Senate report said the agency misled politicians about the programme. But the former Republican vice-president dismissed this, saying: "[B]The notion that the committee is trying to peddle that somehow the agency was operating on a rogue basis and that we weren't being told - that the president wasn't being told - is a flat-out lie.[/B]" In the interview on Thursday, Mr Cheney said the report was "deeply flawed" and a "terrible piece of work", although he admitted he had not read the whole document. President Bush "knew everything he needed to know, and wanted to know" about CIA interrogation, he said. "He knew the techniques... there was no effort on my part to keep it from him. "He was fully informed."[/QUOTE] Uhm... oops?

Kinda throwing him under the bus there, Dick. [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30427211"]Source link[/URL]

Sounds like Cheney is admitting to being fully aware while throwing W under the bus. Guards, arrest this man.

I really hope Bush gets tried as a war criminal. That would be justice served. But we all know that isn't going to happen.

[QUOTE=NoOnE#235;46690339]Kinda throwing him under the bus there, Dick. [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30427211"]Source link[/URL][/QUOTE] I guess it's better than shooting him.

Of course he knew. This pathetic attempt to claim the CIA was lying to Congress is just them trying to save face. Despicable.

Yeah it's pretty terrible, the people involved did some terrible terrible things. It was definitely a scary time though, being attacked on homeland at such a grand scale. Doesn't make it right, but I can see why the most extreme knee-jerk reaction happened.

[QUOTE=NoOnE#235;46690339]Kinda throwing him under the bus there, Dick. [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30427211"]Source link[/URL][/QUOTE] Well, we don't call him [I]Dick[/I] Cheney for nothing.

cheney sure is a dick

Well there's one Dick that admits secret information.

Like I said in the other thread: [QUOTE=catbarf;46676942]Take that part of the report with a grain of salt. Right now the intelligence community is pretty unpopular, and while Republicans are sticking to their guns, many Democrats in Congress are trying to score points by claiming that they were always opposed to intelligence operations or weren't briefed or otherwise weren't complicit. There was one story [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/05/intelligence-re/"]a few years ago[/URL] about how Nancy Pelosi insisted she was never briefed about various programs from '02-'05, and was against them, until documents were released showing that she was at the briefings and voted in support. The SSCI and HPSCI are just as partisan as any other Congressional committee so don't take everything at face value. If you look for the things that both Democrats and Republicans agree on you're more likely to find the truth- but even then, there are some things that both parties will try to distance themselves from, and call it the workings of a 'rogue agency' to avoid backlash for their own involvement. They're still politicians.[/QUOTE] Suppose you're a Democrat in Congress. Over ten years ago you supported what seemed like a justified program at the time, but is overwhelmingly opposed now. You're writing a report and can say whatever you like. Are you going to A. Try to justify your support to an angry populace, or B. Insist you never supported it and had no idea what was going on, and blame the agency that people are already mad at? Congress did the same thing with the NSA until the NSA showed that not only was Congress briefed, but many Congressmen skipped an important briefing to go on vacation early. Even within Congress there's a lot of division over the report, with the Republican minority strongly opposed to its current state. Why people who [i]know[/i] how Congress works and are appropriately skeptical on other issues would believe them in this case is beyond me.

Come on Dick, Nobody likes a bus driver.

I'm surprised he didn't throw in a "And I'd do it all again! Ahahahaha!"

[QUOTE=phyton92;46690362]I really hope Bush gets tried as a war criminal. That would be justice served. But we all know that isn't going to happen.[/QUOTE] Walter Cronkite said that "we the people are responsible for the actions of our leaders". While I don't condone the actions of Bush's administration nor shift the blame solely to the public I don't think the rationale that its entirely at his feet is not entirely accurate nor is it one we should be in some twisted way proud of.

And that's why it's difficult to justify american missions oversea. Despite every right they MAY have to invade/liberate/secure another country, they're not legitimated by the infringments of human rights.

[QUOTE=mfreyrie;46690849]And that's why it's difficult to justify american missions oversea. Despite every right they MAY have to invade/liberate/secure another country, they're not legitimated by the infringments of human rights.[/QUOTE] But to be fair, doesnt US kinda spy on every country that exists?

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;46690867]But to be fair, doesnt US kinda spy on every country that exists?[/QUOTE] If the country has secrets, you can bet it has a spy program. You make it sound like people don't try to spy on us, like the Chinese or Russians.

[QUOTE=catbarf;46690407]Like I said in the other thread: Suppose you're a Democrat in Congress. Over ten years ago you supported what seemed like a justified program at the time, but is overwhelmingly opposed now. You're writing a report and can say whatever you like. Are you going to A. Try to justify your support to an angry populace, or B. Insist you never supported it and had no idea what was going on, and blame the agency that people are already mad at? Congress did the same thing with the NSA until the NSA showed that not only was Congress briefed, but many Congressmen skipped an important briefing to go on vacation early. Even within Congress there's a lot of division over the report, with the Republican minority strongly opposed to its current state. Why people who [i]know[/i] how Congress works and are appropriately skeptical on other issues would believe them in this case is beyond me.[/QUOTE] I would have more respect for congress if they admitted that at the time themselves and the nation was scared and made poor judgement. Then swore unanimously it wouldn't happen again and they would make things more transparent. But that is just living in a dream world.

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;46690867]But to be fair, doesnt US kinda spy on every country that exists?[/QUOTE] It's almost a given that every country has some sort of spy network/program.

Spying is like masturbating: Everyone does it, everyone knows everyone does it, it's rude to talk about it, and when you get caught, everyone tries to forget it ever happened.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;46691325]Spying is like masturbating: [B]Everyone does it[/B], everyone knows everyone does it, it's rude to talk about it, and when you get caught, everyone tries to forget it ever happened.[/QUOTE] nah

[QUOTE=MR-X;46691271]I would have more respect for congress if they admitted that at the time themselves and the nation was scared and made poor judgement. Then swore unanimously it wouldn't happen again and they would make things more transparent. But that is just living in a dream world.[/QUOTE] Obama did exactly that, and got blasted by liberals for 'OMG WHY AREN'T YOU PROMISING TO IMPRISON EVERYONE INVOLVED' and conservatives for 'OMG WHY ARE YOU TURNING YOUR BACK ON YOUR COUNTRY'. The reasonable middle ground approach does not garner support the way an incendiary, partisan one does.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;46691325]Spying is like masturbating: Everyone does it, everyone knows everyone does it, it's rude to talk about it, and when you get caught, everyone tries to forget it ever happened.[/QUOTE] Except masturbation doesn't involve torture [editline]Edited:[/editline] usually

[QUOTE=JgcxCub;46691410]nah[/QUOTE] Yeah! I don't masturbate three times a day!

[QUOTE=JgcxCub;46691410]nah[/QUOTE] You have any proof of any country to not have an intelligence/spy agency? Of course you don't.

So could you say that Bush had a leaky Dick?

Of course they knew all about it.

"He knew it BECAUSE I TOLD IT TO HIM"

[QUOTE=JgcxCub;46691410]nah[/QUOTE] Denying it just makes everyone think you are hiding something. Are you one of those hands free fellows?

[QUOTE=draugur;46691441]You have any proof of any country to not have an intelligence/spy agency? Of course you don't.[/QUOTE] i think you misunderstood