[url]http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/john_kasich_follows_through_on.html[/url]
[quote]Gov. John Kasich, who had vowed not to vote for Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, voted Monday by absentee ballot.
His choice? Sen. John McCain of Arizona.
Chris Schrimpf, the governor's political spokesman, confirmed the write-in vote to cleveland.com and said Kasich voted straight-ticket Republican on the rest of his ballot. Schrimpf added that Kasich was comfortable picking McCain, the 2008 GOP nominee for president, over Trump, Democrat Hillary Clinton and Libertarian Gary Johnson, a former Republican on the ballot as a nonpartisan candidate.[/quote]
Some days I look back and try to imagine the present we would have had if McCain had been elected in '08.
Kasich was the only one that looked sane in the Republican debates, and seemed like a nice person. Unfortunately he was completely ignored by media and even by the people who hosted the debates who didn't let him talk and focused on loudmouth Trump.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;51289299]Kasich was the only one that looked sane in the Republican debates, and seemed like a nice person. Unfortunately he was completely ignored by media and even by the people who hosted the debates who didn't let him talk and focused on loudmouth Trump.[/QUOTE]
He was my first choice. Maybe I'm biased because I'm from Ohio but he's for certain one of the best candidates from the line up. I wish he got the nomination so he could win in a landslide against Hillary and this nightmare of an election would be over.
I also think it would be a better strategy for these "never trump" republicans to pick 1 write-in candidate and stick by it so they at least all stand behind 1 person, rather than writing in whoever.
Well it's not like a republican war veteran has never become president due to being written in or anything...
Say what you want about him, he was the last GOP candidate anywhere close to sane.
Slow news day smurfy?
[QUOTE=Chonch;51289260]Some days I look back and try to imagine the present we would have had if McCain had been elected in '08.[/QUOTE]
Woul've been terrible because we would've had Palin as vice president
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51289286]We'd have found a cure for balding for one[/QUOTE]
Theres a cure already
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;51289570]Woul've been terrible because we would've had Palin as vice president[/QUOTE]
As bad as Vice president Palin sounds she probably would have just been another Quayle. Sent off to do photo ops and some goodwill trips, but mostly just being the butt of jokes while the president and his chief advisers take care of everything.
Jeeze O'Man this is just nuts!
Kasich's whole campaign was baffling. He dropped out right at the moment that he could have possibly stolen the win from Trump.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51289792]Jeeze O'Man this is just nuts!
Kasich's whole campaign was baffling. [B]He dropped out right at the moment that he could have possibly stolen the win from Trump.[/B][/QUOTE]
How tho?
They stuck in the race because there was still a slight possibility they could fuck him over with the convention rules, but it became pretty apparent that Trump was going to have the minimum amount to just flat-out win in the first round.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51289792]Jeeze O'Man this is just nuts!
Kasich's whole campaign was baffling. He dropped out right at the moment that he could have possibly stolen the win from Trump.[/QUOTE]
Didn't Trump pretty much have a massive insurmountable delegate lead by the time it was just him and Trump?
He might've won if it was just him and Trump from the start so Rubio, Cruz, and Jeb! wouldn't have split votes with him.
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;51289714]As bad as Vice president Palin sounds she probably would have just been another Quayle. Sent off to do photo ops and some goodwill trips, but mostly just being the butt of jokes while the president and his chief advisers take care of everything.[/QUOTE]
You're forgetting about the line of succession.
Let's say McCain croaks, be it from assassin or natural causes. Guess who the Commander in Chief is now?
Sarah fucking Palin.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51289792]Jeeze O'Man this is just nuts!
Kasich's whole campaign was baffling. He dropped out right at the moment that he could have possibly stolen the win from Trump.[/QUOTE]
The only candidate who had a chance of beating Trump was Cruz and his policies are every bit as insane as Trump's.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51289800]How tho?
They stuck in the race because there was still a slight possibility they could fuck him over with the convention rules, but it became pretty apparent that Trump was going to have the minimum amount to just flat-out win in the first round.[/QUOTE]
I agree that his chances were equally as low and insane as Cruz's but then what was the damn point of remaining in the race up until the end?
[QUOTE=Chonch;51289260]Some days I look back and try to imagine the present we would have had if McCain had been elected in '08.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;51289714]As bad as Vice president Palin sounds she probably would have just been another Quayle. Sent off to do photo ops and some goodwill trips, but mostly just being the butt of jokes while the president and his chief advisers take care of everything.[/QUOTE]
If McCain was elected that is probably what would've happened. I'd argue that we would probably be a bit backwards on social and economic issues (depending on who his economic staff would have been), but foreign relations and the crisis in the Middle East would've been lessened since we would likely still be fighting Al Qaeda (which would have a lessened presence). Also a lot of the shitty international fuckups like the situation in Libya would've gone differently (probably be better without Hillary fucking shit up, but I wouldn't underestimate the Republican nuts).
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51290066]I agree that his chances were equally as low and insane as Cruz's but then what was the damn point of remaining in the race up until the end?[/QUOTE]
No, he did a hell of a lot worse than Cruz.
[QUOTE=matt000024;51290110]If McCain was elected that is probably what would've happened. I'd argue that we would probably be a bit backwards on social and economic issues (depending on who his economic staff would have been), but foreign relations and the crisis in the Middle East would've been lessened since we would likely still be fighting Al Qaeda (which would have a lessened presence). Also a lot of the shitty international fuckups like the situation in Libya would've gone differently (probably be better without Hillary fucking shit up, but I wouldn't underestimate the Republican nuts).[/QUOTE]
Considering McCain has actually been to war and comes from a military family, has seen firsthand a failed military presence in Vietnam I'd trust his judgment over chessmaster Hillary.
By 2012 in a supposed McCain presidency, if he were re-elected provided the dems keep the super-majority they could still force through whatever they wanted if it were healthcare or gay marriage. iirc they made huge gains that helped forced through legislation in 2010 and that continued on to 2012.
Actually, we could've most likely seen a dem controlled house and arguably seen more progress than we have with a blue oval office and a red congress given how one is usually the opposite color.
Question: if McCain (or any write-in candidate) actually won, who would be the VP? Seeing how they probably didn't register for one.
[QUOTE=Monkah;51290171]Question: if McCain (or any write-in candidate) actually won, who would be the VP? Seeing how they probably didn't register for one.[/QUOTE]
Eh presumably whoever is in the line of succession would go next, most likely. So at the moment, that would be Paul Ryan, Speaker of The House.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51290187]Eh presumably whoever is in the line of succession would go next, most likely. So at the moment, that would be Paul Ryan, Speaker of The House.[/QUOTE]
Then Paul Ryan becomes powerless and Bernie Sanders becomes Speaker!
Holy SHIT! Write in McCain!
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51290193]Then Paul Ryan becomes powerless and Bernie Sanders becomes Speaker!
Holy SHIT! Write in McCain![/QUOTE]
Except Paul Ryan is House, and Bernie Sanders is Senate. Sanders can't be Speaker of the House.
I'm Australian, how come I know more about American politics than an American lol
[QUOTE=BF;51290383]Except Paul Ryan is House, and Bernie Sanders is Senate. Sanders can't be Speaker of the House.
I'm Australian, how come I know more about American politics than an American lol[/QUOTE]
For some reason I thought Paul Ryan was a senator before becoming speaker and thats where I made the error.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51290025]You're forgetting about the line of succession.
Let's say McCain croaks, be it from assassin or natural causes. Guess who the Commander in Chief is now?
Sarah fucking Palin.[/QUOTE]
Well with about 3 months left of Obama and McCain still breathing, I'd say it wasn't something to worry about. And since the secret service has done a (relatively) good job of not letting President Obama get killed, there's nor reason to think they would have slacked off for McCain.
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;51294589]Well with about 3 months left of Obama and McCain still breathing, I'd say it wasn't something to worry about. And since the secret service has done a (relatively) good job of not letting President Obama get killed, there's nor reason to think they would have slacked off for McCain.[/QUOTE]
It's still something to consider as long as you aren't living in the future.
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;51294589]Well with about 3 months left of Obama and McCain still breathing, I'd say it wasn't something to worry about. And since the secret service has done a (relatively) good job of not letting President Obama get killed, there's nor reason to think they would have slacked off for McCain.[/QUOTE]
Just because McCain is alive as a Senator doesn't mean he would have as the President. That job beats the shit out of you.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51289260]Some days I look back and try to imagine the present we would have had if McCain had been elected in '08.[/QUOTE]
The American loss of life from the conflicts in the middle east would have quadrupled, if not more.
He would have made an even larger troop surge in Iraq, probably would have ignored Baghdad's request for the US to leave, and then send troops into Syria regardless of Assad or Russia's thoughts on the matter.
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