Donald Sterling to Sue NBA and His Wife - Polidicks

[url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2081180-donald-sterling-plans-to-sue-nba-for-1-billion-in-damages[/url] [QUOTE]Shelly Sterling was empowered to sell the team after experts determined that Donald Sterling was mentally incapacitated. That left control of the Clippers in the hands of the Sterling family trust, of which Shelly became the sole trustee: Sterling has always maintained through his attorney, Blecher, that he would refuse to the sell the Clippers, per Brent Schrotenboer of USA Today. Blecher told USA Today that any reports of Sterling authorizing his wife to take control of the team and promptly sell it were incorrect. Sterling also sent a 32-page retort to the league in which he claimed that he did nothing to violate the terms of his ownership contract with the NBA. He used the California Penal Code and his right to privacy as the main leg of his defense. His response ended with, "A jealous rant to a lover never intended to be published cannot offend the NBA rules."[/QUOTE] Turns out it's his wife that's selling the team. Also, he's suing the NBA for $1B in damages.

So basically this entire thing was so she could sell the team and get some $$$?

[QUOTE=Adsone;44957079]So basically this entire thing was so she could sell the team and get some $$$?[/QUOTE] No. When he was diagnosed with alzhimers, they deemed him "mentally incapacitated", which put the Sterling Family Trust in charge of the clippers, of which his wife became the sole trustee. She is the one selling the team, not him. He's now sueing her for trying to sell the team, and sueing the NBA for damages because he states that he did nothing to violate his contract with them.

But he went on TV like a week later and said a ton of racist stuff too... Dude is stupid to do this too, balmer is willing to spend 2B on the team which is only valued at 1B, dont cry over doubling your inherited investment while we're all scraping NY trying to pay for housing and college [editline]31st May 2014[/editline] 7,600th post woo even numbers

[QUOTE=Sableye;44957599]But he went on TV like a week later and said a ton of racist stuff too... Dude is stupid to do this too, balmer is willing to spend 2B on the team which is only valued at 1B, dont cry over doubling your inherited investment while we're all scraping NY trying to pay for housing and college [editline]31st May 2014[/editline] 7,600th post woo even numbers[/QUOTE] He doesn't get any of that $2B.

Take note everyone. This is how you make a terrible situation worse. Do not do what this guy is doing, ever. Every time he says something hes making it worse

[QUOTE=supersnail11;44957601]He doesn't get any of that $2B.[/QUOTE] His wife does and she's tied to him

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44957168]No. When he was diagnosed with alzhimers, they deemed him "mentally incapacitated", which put the Sterling Family Trust in charge of the clippers, of which his wife became the sole trustee. She is the one selling the team, not him. He's now sueing her for trying to sell the team, and sueing the NBA for damages because he states that he did nothing to violate his contract with them.[/QUOTE] He's also claiming that he didn't do any damage to the league itself with his actions. All I can see is someone who owns a team and is extremely racist. Someone with that status should watch what he saids in private and public because this is exactly the worse case if you DON'T.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44957750]His wife does and she's tied to him[/QUOTE] But he's not in control of it (anymore). In the Sterling Family Trust, there is a "mentally incapacitated" clause, probably to prevent someone who is not mentally stable from doing things that aren't in the trust's best interest. Since he has been diagnosed with Alzhimers, he has been deemed "mentally incapacitated", and therefore loses his control over the trust. He knows this, so he is fighting to say that the clippers aren't owned by the trust, but by him and that she doesn't have the power to sell them. I'm pretty sure, either way, that he's going to lose the lawsuit against his wife. The lawsuit against the NBA could go either way depending on the quality of the lawyer he has.

Donald Sterling was a very successful lawyer before he used his earnings to invest in real estate, so I'm sure he knows a thing or two about that.

I kinda feel bad for the guy. I mean he's sick, he had the girl recording everything he says because he forgets. He says something along the lines of "Yeah go ahead and fuck Magic Johnson" and all hell breaks loose.

[QUOTE=Buck.;44958769]I kinda feel bad for the guy. I mean he's sick, he had the girl recording everything he says because he forgets. He says something along the lines of "Yeah go ahead and fuck Magic Johnson" and all hell breaks loose.[/QUOTE]He was really racist before then. Like, he was really racist in his housing with his real estate stuff as well. He's not some poor victim in this. He's a racist who got caught and called out and made an example of.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;44958967]He was really racist before then. Like, he was really racist in his housing with his real estate stuff as well. He's not some poor victim in this. He's a racist who got caught and called out and made an example of.[/QUOTE] Who gives a fuck? You shouldnt be allowed to refuse business with someone because of their personal beliefs. Imagine if Sterling was outed as a Muslim. The NBA would be backtracking hard. We shouldnt take a different view to the law just because he believes in something socially acceptable.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44957168]He's now sueing her for trying to sell the team, and sueing the NBA for damages because he states that he did nothing to violate his contract with them.[/QUOTE] Wait, why is he suing his wife for following orders the NBA gave them?

Yes this guy is totally racist and maybe he shouldn't really be the owner of an NBA team, but I think this could set a very dangerous precedent by punishing people severely over comments made in private. If Sterling had posted his comment over a public channel or forum like facebook or something, I could see these actions against him being much more justifiable, but the way they got him on this is essentially wiretapping without a warrant.

I wish that old bastard all the luck! Even though I do not agree with what he has said (that brought him all the trouble with the NBA) I still feel that the punishment was unjustified (to an extent). What he said was in private to people that know how he talks, he was recorded without his consent, and the recordings were used against him in a way to persuade the selling of the team. I hope he has a bullet proof prenup because the gold digging wife of his really fucked him over in his remaining years.

my right to hatespeech is protected and that's really what's important here (nevermind all of the actually relevant stuff, i hope he gets off)

He's an unpleasant racist but so is nearly every other guy his age. They were born in a different time and have a different set of values. Being an unpleasant person doesn't mean you should immediately lose everything. His wife is a manipulative gold-digging harpy and the public is being way too sensitive about the whole situation.

[QUOTE=MWSunder;44965120]He's an unpleasant racist but so is nearly every other guy his age. They were born in a different time and have a different set of values.[/QUOTE]"They're from a different time." or "Its just how they grew up" or whatever is a terrible excuse that allows bigotry to to continue existing. There is no time or place where it is acceptable.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;44965153]"They're from a different time." or "Its just how they grew up" or whatever is a terrible excuse that allows bigotry to to continue existing. There is no time or place where it is acceptable.[/QUOTE] It's a bad excuse, but that's how it is. It isn't acceptable to people today, but it was then. Of course you can look back on times like that from your current perspective and say it isn't acceptable, but if you were born in the same time as these bigoted old men and grew up in the same environment, you wouldn't think anything of it. It would just be your culture. In the audio, Sterling talks about how he has an image to maintain and a culture that he's a part of. Everyone he knows and associates with is a bigoted old man from a different time, and he is too. Racism is still a couple generations away from disappearing, and while it's unfortunate that they are stuck in their old beliefs, they do not deserve to be (metaphorically) lined up and shot for them.

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;44959829]Who gives a fuck? You shouldnt be allowed to refuse business with someone because of their personal beliefs. Imagine if Sterling was outed as a Muslim. The NBA would be backtracking hard. We shouldnt take a different view to the law just because he believes in something socially acceptable.[/QUOTE] believe it or not, NBA is a private organization. And as part of signing to be part of said organization, you are part of their image. So the NBA can do whatever the fuck they want since its their own policy and company.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;44965305]believe it or not, NBA is a private organization. And as part of signing to be part of said organization, you are part of their image. So the NBA can do whatever the fuck they want since its their own policy and company.[/QUOTE] Actually, the whole point of a contract is so they can't "do whatever the fuck they want."

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;44959829]Who gives a fuck? You shouldnt be allowed to refuse business with someone because of their personal beliefs. Imagine if Sterling was outed as a Muslim. The NBA would be backtracking hard. We shouldnt take a different view to the law just because he believes in something socially acceptable.[/QUOTE] lol you're talking about a guy who refused business with people based on their racial background

[QUOTE=MWSunder;44965225]It's a bad excuse, but that's how it is. It isn't acceptable to people today, but it was then. Of course you can look back on times like that from your current perspective and say it isn't acceptable, but if you were born in the same time as these bigoted old men and grew up in the same environment, you wouldn't think anything of it. It would just be your culture. In the audio, Sterling talks about how he has an image to maintain and a culture that he's a part of. Everyone he knows and associates with is a bigoted old man from a different time, and he is too. Racism is still a couple generations away from disappearing, and while it's unfortunate that they are stuck in their old beliefs, they do not deserve to be (metaphorically) lined up and shot for them.[/QUOTE] basically what i'm reading is "some members of my family are racist but someone slightly younger in my family explained to me why that's ok" also: yes they do. their open and apparent racism in their (now long) lifetimes has denied opportunities to individuals. just because they are weak and confused now doesn't mean they get a free pass for being terrible, terrible human beings. like what the fuck are you even saying, it's okay for someone to be a neo-nazi if they're old because there were more nazis around in their lifetime? [editline]31st May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=MWSunder;44965120]He's an unpleasant racist but so is nearly every other guy his age. They were born in a different time and have a different set of values. Being an unpleasant person doesn't mean you should immediately lose everything. His wife is a manipulative gold-digging harpy and the public is being way too sensitive about the whole situation.[/QUOTE] 'unpleasant' and 'racist' are comparable like 'tired' and 'disabled' are comparable. being a gold digging harpy believe it or not isn't as bad as being a straight up racist

[QUOTE=innerfire34;44965590]being a gold digging harpy believe it or not isn't as bad as being a straight up racist[/QUOTE] I disagree.

[QUOTE=Oberleutnant;44965713]I disagree.[/QUOTE] one is a burden to a single person said harpy is already acquainted with, the other is a burden on society [editline]31st May 2014[/editline] i mean, hey, maybe you think injustices against individual (wealthy) men are a bigger deal than injustices against entire fuckin' people groups, but you'd be wrong [editline]31st May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;44965374]lol you're talking about a guy who refused business with people based on their racial background[/QUOTE] how do you idiots get it so fucking backward that you'll stand up and defend some man's right to discriminate based on skin color so his 'beliefs' aren't discriminated against like what kind of terrible parents did you have

[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;44964906]but the way they got him on this is essentially wiretapping without a warrant.[/QUOTE] The NBA doesn't need a warrant to examine evidence related to contract noncompliance. Warrants are designed to protect the government from becoming too powerful against citizens. The NBA doesn't have control over anybody.

[QUOTE=innerfire34;44965590]also: yes they do. their open and apparent racism in their (now long) lifetimes has denied opportunities to individuals. just because they are weak and confused now doesn't mean they get a free pass for being terrible, terrible human beings.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna go ahead and try to make a comparison. Let's say that there becomes a new generation where people don't support hate against, let's say, people who you, specifically, would probably call idiots. Assuming that you're the kind of guy who loathes these kind of people, you'd probably would've been thought of as a terrible human being who shouldn't have a decent job if someone found out that you had the opinion that stupid people should be ridiculed and punished. It's a well-accepted opinion today (Well, maybe not everywhere in the country but it's far from being a taboo, at least on here), but if in the next generation, it turns out that having that opinion is considered a taboo and punishable, you would likely think that that's bullshit, and it kinda is. While that opinion may be harsh, you're still entitled to that opinion, and it's not really something you should be punished for, especially if you're just voicing your opinion privately and someone just so happens to be recording it. Yeah, I know there's a difference between being racist and disliking clueless people, but both kinda deal with opinions towards specific kinds of people.

[QUOTE=Skerion;44966169]I'm gonna go ahead and try to make a comparison. Let's say that there becomes a new generation where people don't support hate against, let's say, people who you, specifically, would probably call idiots. Assuming that you're the kind of guy who loathes these kind of people, you'd probably would've been thought of as a terrible human being who shouldn't have a decent job if someone found out that you had the opinion that stupid people should be ridiculed and punished. It's a well-accepted opinion today (Well, maybe not everywhere in the country but it's far from being a taboo, at least on here), but if in the next generation, it turns out that having that opinion is considered a taboo and punishable, you would likely think that that's bullshit, and it kinda is. While that opinion may be harsh, you're still entitled to that opinion, and it's not really something you should be punished for, especially if you're just voicing your opinion privately and someone just so happens to be recording it. Yeah, I know there's a difference between being racist and disliking clueless people, but both kinda deal with opinions towards specific kinds of people.[/QUOTE] no. there are still largely racist populations in the world and their fucking idiocy won't be any more acceptable in fifty years when they have alzheimers than it is today also, you know what's even more fucked up to judge someone by than their opinion (which they can change?) their fucking skin color. like, i don't understand what you're defending

[QUOTE=innerfire34;44970242]no. there are still largely racist populations in the world and their fucking idiocy won't be any more acceptable in fifty years when they have alzheimers than it is today[/QUOTE] You're right. They should be smart enough to control what they say when their brains are degenerating and they have severe dementia. How dare they not know what they're talking about!