• AP uncovers that the FBI is using a bunch of faux companies to operate an air force of planes featur
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[url]http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FBI_SURVEILLANCE_FLIGHTS?SITE=VACHA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[/url] [quote=Associated Press]Scores of low-flying planes circling American cities are part of a civilian air force operated by the FBI and obscured behind fictitious companies, The Associated Press has learned. The AP traced at least 50 aircraft back to the FBI, and identified more than 100 flights in 11 states over a 30-day period since late April, orbiting both major cities and rural areas. At least 115 planes, including 90 Cessna aircraft, were mentioned in a federal budget document from 2009. For decades, the planes have provided support to FBI surveillance operations on the ground. But now the aircraft are equipped with high-tech cameras, and in rare circumstances, technology capable of tracking thousands of cellphones, raising questions about how these surveillance flights affect Americans' privacy. "It's important that federal law enforcement personnel have the tools they need to find and catch criminals," said Charles Grassley, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. "But whenever an operation may also monitor the activities of Americans who are not the intended target, we must make darn sure that safeguards are in place to protect the civil liberties of innocent Americans." The FBI says the planes are not equipped or used for bulk collection activities or mass surveillance. The surveillance equipment is used for ongoing investigations, the FBI says, generally without a judge's approval.[/quote]
I would be surprised, but I'm not. FBI constantly blurs the line between insane conspiracy theories, and, well, reality.
yeah governments use commercial/civilian planes as spy tools, i know this. and i can speak from what ive seen because its a dirty dirty practice in which innocent lives are at risk.it needs to stop. also i should mention it can save lives too...just depends on you usee this tactic but if they plan to goto other countries with this they should just stick with like ionno...satellite that looks like a rock or computers distibuted among birds with 2 of them carrying lenses
I saw this on r/conspirancies. I can't believe it's actually true you know how the saying goes, you miss all the shots you don't take :v:
sometimes you wonder why some planes go missing or shot down. in regards to planes overseas but this article is talking about local stuff oops
[QUOTE=NitronikALT;47863563]I saw this on r/conspirancies. I can't believe it's actually true you know how the saying goes, you miss all the shots you don't take :v:[/QUOTE] I much prefer /r/actualconspiracies since that's kept free from the crazies.
also was this mentioned in the bill to rid military hardware for domestic use?
This just sounds like the aerial equivlent of the traditional disguised surveilence van.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;47863647]This just sounds like the aerial equivlent of the traditional disguised surveilence van.[/QUOTE] Because it basically is. They'd likely just run this with drones if they could. And they likely will before long since its a non issue.
actually, chemtrails are not what we think they are; in fact these chemicals sprayed are actually capable of tracking our phones, reading our emails, using your webcam, watching you sleep, observing you taking a shit and going inside you and contemplating the inner workings of your digestive system
Holy fuck.
Between this and the NSA's plans, I've gotta hand it to the US intelligence agencies, they do have a taste for the grand and theatrical.
[B]WOT IF[/B] the Associated Press are under surveillance by the FBI and the FBI have let slip this disinformation to them?
They must of picked this up from Viktor Bout. He ran tons of aircraft and boat companies in order to smuggle firearms around, and also would transport stuff for the US Army from time to time. Having a long paper-trail will keep people off your tracks, and also allows you to hide your activities under the "black budget".
[QUOTE=Associated Press]The FBI says the planes are not equipped or used for bulk collection activities or mass surveillance.[/QUOTE] haha bullshit
[QUOTE=masterbateman;47864567]haha bullshit[/QUOTE] They're little fucking Cesnas. The tech needed would make it a glorified fucking brick.
[QUOTE=Swilly;47864700]They're little fucking Cesnas. The tech needed would make it a glorified fucking brick.[/QUOTE] Cameras, radios and hard drives would make it a brick?
[QUOTE=srobins;47864761]Cameras, radios and hard drives would make it a brick?[/QUOTE] Quote says bulk collection, AKA scanning thousands of American cell phones per flight for shits and giggles, instead of just filtering it down to suspects in an investigation.
[QUOTE=NitronikALT;47863563]I saw this on r/conspirancies. I can't believe it's actually true you know how the saying goes, you miss all the shots you don't take :v:[/QUOTE] I've been suspicious of it for a while - from time to time there are planes that seem to circle endlessly with no respect to orientation to the airport or holding pattern and then do it again one 'grid space' over the next night or a few days later. This has gone on for months, to the point where I notice their absence more than their presence. I checked with all of the flight registries I could find and found that there was never an airplane on radar or tracked having followed those patterns, and this struck me as odd. I'd talked about it from time to time, but mostly didn't make a fuss about it because it sounded like something a paranoid schizophrenic would think up.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;47863647]This just sounds like the aerial equivlent of the traditional disguised surveilence van.[/QUOTE] When you put it like that this whole thing seems so much more reasonable.
[QUOTE=Swilly;47864700]They're little fucking Cesnas. The tech needed would make it a glorified fucking brick.[/QUOTE] So naive. :') This news had 5000 upvotes on Reddit and was at the bottom of the section and it actually got deleted bit later.
Shoutout to the FBI script/desk jockey processing this thread
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;47865801]So naive. :') This news had 5000 upvotes on Reddit and was at the bottom of the section and it actually got deleted bit later.[/QUOTE] I'm not being naive, I'm avoiding what I call, "Congrats, you should wear tinfoil" as most of the tech that they could most likely use would be available to private consumers if they're using Cesnas. And that current tech, you'd need an entire web of controlled, encoded and protected connection points for that bulk data not to be overwritten, constantly.
Nothing at all wrong with this. Nobody complains when the FBI uses a van with a fake company logo and such. [QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;47865801]So naive. :') This news had 5000 upvotes on Reddit and was at the bottom of the section and it actually got deleted bit later.[/QUOTE] "I dislike America let me tell you every thread."
You do realize that technology developed at Lockheed Martin and similar corporations is something that we can't imagine and is like at least 10 years ahead of our time, right? Edit: Lol at people actually thinking this is funny and not the truth.
What do they even do with all that data they collect? Do they even have the storage to hold it all?
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;47866067]What do they even do with all that data they collect? Do they even have the storage to hold it all?[/QUOTE] Even if they did it's so much data that searching for anything relevant/important would take forever. Basically, it's just another way for the US to sink money into something controversial
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;47866017]You do realize that technology developed at Lockheed Martin and similar corporations is something that we can't imagine and is like at least 10 years ahead of our time, right?[/QUOTE] Yeah the FBI is flying them around in public to make drug busts.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;47865801]So naive. :') This news had 5000 upvotes on Reddit and was at the bottom of the section and it actually got deleted bit later.[/QUOTE] how much payload do you think a Cessna can hold? For christ sakes when my (overweight) instructor gets in I worry that my CG will be out of limit. Could they hold a computer? sure. Could they hould 100's of pounds of equipment? hell no
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;47865801]So naive. :') This news had 5000 upvotes on Reddit and was at the bottom of the section and it actually got deleted bit later.[/QUOTE] I bet you wear a fedora and call people sheeple.
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